The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Kspur]

Again today general moans and frustrations at the way we were being frustrated by sheff Utd but heard literally no anti poch comments or moans or chants. A sprinkling of boos at half time but I’d say match going fans still very much behind him

too right too

 

[ajspurs]

Feel like I just don't want to watch us until Poch is gone if I'm honest, just can't see anything changing and it's getting incredibly tiring watching 'inferior' teams constantly outplaying us.

 

[Jaddas]

If Poch doesn't go soon, his achievements will be tarnished, which I don't think is fair.

The comments in this thread from today, whilst understandable, shows how much the fans have turned on him. Reading comments on how he's achieved what has been expected over the years, not a winner, clueless etc, seem a tad bit disrespectful for the best manager we've had since Billy Nich.

Really hope Poch has a sit down with Levy and they come to an amicable solution, as his time has come to an end and we need to move on. I would hate for his achievements to be brushed over and he gets hounded out of the club like Wenger did. I think he deserves better.

 

[cookiemonster]

Match made in heaven. One prize wanker surrounded by nothing but pricks.

You wont be laughing when start winning trophies under him

 

[Locotoro]

I'm still 100% behind Poch

 

[chelmyid]

I sit in park lane and I would say it’s turned from 10% against him to prob more like 75% in about the last 3 home games including today. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a change in this break - the atmosphere today was the first this season where it felt more toxic. People aren’t blind or stupid - so far we’ve managed to make villa, Southampton, Newcastle, Watford and Sheffield United look like world beaters - it is simply not good enough for this club whoever your loyalties lie with.

 

[Mr Pink]

I sit in park lane and I would say it’s turned from 10% against him to prob more like 75% in about the last 3 home games including today. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a change in this break - the atmosphere today was the first this season where it felt more toxic. People aren’t blind or stupid - so far we’ve managed to make villa, Southampton, Newcastle, Watford and Sheffield United look like world beaters - it is simply not good enough for this club whoever your loyalties lie with.

And add in West Ham, Southampton and Everton from the end of last season making us look pretty poor at home as well.

I mean our away form has been atrocious, but worryingly our home form has become so bad, it's hard to see us hitting much more than 40 points this season.

 

[Primativ]

And add in West Ham, Southampton and Everton from the end of last season making us look pretty poor at home as well.

I mean our away form has been atrocious, but worryingly our home form has become so bad, it's hard to see us hitting much more than 40 points this season.

Lets be honest we should have lost to Watford and SU in the last two weeks. Could say luck was really on our side in both games.

Our home form has been shocking for so long now. Honestly I’m amazed Poch is still in charge. No one can say Levy hasn’t given him time.

 

[dtxspurs]

Anybody able to see what JJ is replying to?

 

[stevenurse]

He's going nowhere and we all know it

 

[Hercules]

He is asking for time, but doesn’t know if he will get it. Well! Nobody is going give him 12-18 months for his new signings;whoever they are) to get up to speed with his way of bringing things together.

If he survives until wet spam. OPINION! OPINION! OPINION! He will be under severe pressure to play Sess from the start, along with TN (if fit) and GLC. Can’t see Aurier starting after today. Reasons I will not share! So I call that OPINION also!

 

[SpursFox]

I am so conflicted. Most of the times I have commented on this issue it has heavily leaned to the side of him needing to go, but after a few days I always come back with hope, partially due to a few promising performances in the Champions League and partially because I just would love for him to turn it around and make it work. I've never actively wanted us to lose because it might potentially hasten his demise, though I can understand the mindset of people who feel that in the moment at least. I want us to win, I want him to lead us back up the table and the team to unite again and play how we know they can. But it really isn't happening it seems. I keep thinking one more time, lets see, one more game ... but there's only so many times you can get that last chance.

A Europa League place isn't that difficult to achieve at all from here, outside the top four there's no-one that good really, Sheffield United themselves are in the mix as it stands. And all it will take is a decent turn around and there's plenty of time left for a solid top six finish, not great, but something to build on considering where we are now. There's a slither of a chance someone might even fall from the top four, though I won't touch on that too much as admittedly is extremely unlikely. But that turn around just isn't happening as things are now, it will only get worse and worse. Maybe over the break that hope might be rekindled, but I bet I will end up right back here again after our next game ... It's time.

 

[Lighty64]

sorry mate, I really like you as a poster but what on Earth are you talking about?

come on we struggled even though we got the results until the slump happened, and no one seems to understand we don't have a squad of robots.

Lloris - 2017/218 - PL 36 - CL 7 + Internationals ---- WC 6/7 ----- 2018/19 - PL 33 - CL 11 + Internationals

Rose - 2017/218 - PL 10 - CL 3 - CoC 1 - FA Cup 3 - + Internationals ---- WC 2/7 ----- 2018/19 - PL 26 - CL 8 - CoC 3 + InterN

Jan - 2017/218 - PL 36 - CL 6 - CoC 1 - FA Cup 4 - + Internationals ---- WC 6/7 ----- 2018/19 - PL 22 - CL 10 - CoC 1 - FA 1 + InterN

Toby - 2017/218 - PL 14 - CL 4 - CoC 1 - FA Cup 2 - + Internationals ---- WC 6/7 ----- 2018/19 - PL 34 - CL 12 - CoC 4 + InterN

Sanchez - 2017/218 - PL 31 - CL 8 - FA Cup 2 - + Internationals ---- WC 4/4 ----- 2018/19 - PL 23 - CL 8 - CoC 4 - FA 2 + Inter

Trips - 2017/218 - PL 24 - CL 3 - CoC 2 - FA Cup 6 - + Internationals ---- WC 6/7 ----- 2018/19 - PL 27 - CL 8 - CoC 2 - FA 1 + Inter

Dier - 2017/218 - PL 34 - CL 7 - CoC 2 - FA Cup 4 - + Internationals ---- WC 2/7 ----- 2018/19 - PL 20 - CL 6 - CoC 1 - FA 1 + Inter

Dele - 2017/218 - PL 36 - CL 5 - CoC 2 - FA Cup 7 - + Internationals ---- WC 2/7 ----- 2018/19 - PL 25 - CL 8 - CoC 4 - FA 1 + Inter

Eriksen - 2017/218 - PL 37 - CL 6 - CoC 1 - FA Cup 3 - + Internationals ---- WC 4/4 ----- 2018/19 - PL 35 - CL 12 - CoC 4 + Inter

Son - 2017/218 - PL 37 - CL 7 - CoC 2 - FA Cup 7 - + Internationals ---- WC 4/4 ----- 2018/19 - PL 31 - CL 12 - CoC 4 - FA 1 + loads of Inter

Kane - 2017/218 - PL 37 - CL 7 - FA Cup 4 - + Internationals ---- WC 6/7 ----- 2018/19 - PL 28 - CL 9 - CoC 2 - FA 1 + Inter

those 11 players above (Poss our main 11) finished 1 season, then went off to a World Cup, only 4 of them played over 30 games due to injuries. Not sure any of them had a full 2 weeks off, after the World Cup exits after the group stages, Sanchez, Eriksen, and Son then went off on the preseason comp in America.

and people wonder why we struggled all season let alone after a busy December. Liverpool never suffered the above, Man C did to an extent but look at the squad depth they have. No other team bar City in the premier suffered such a grueling season, and gutted from Feb to May our away form suffered and yet we still made the CL final

I doubt many of the people moaning about our form over that period do anything half as athletic (fair enough you don't receive the pay) but I bet you most had more than 2 weeks holiday over that time to refresh themselves sitting behind a screen clicking numbers or whatever they do, yet those players are doing training 4-5 days a week and playing a high paced sport 1-2 times on top, and sometimes playing with injuries

 

[easley91]

I half expect the news to break in the next few days. I have been behind Poch until recently. What he has done for us cannot be ignored, however it's clear to see the champions league run really did paper over the cracks. This league form stretches back to around Burnley away last season. Our home form was ironically better at Wembley. Something needs to change and with the amount of players we need to sell and bring in, it isn't all going to happen in January.

 

[stormfly]

I didn’t realise how bad it had got until I went to the Newcastle game. From that moment I knew we were screwed. Didn’t know who was to blame but knew the Poch era had come to an end. Now it is just becoming death by a thousand cuts. I still love Poch but it’s time to move on. We will both be better for it in the end.

 

[TC18]

We all need to take a step back and look at it with a reasoned head. We will be loosing Toby, Jan, Eriksen, Aurier, possibly Rose with very little in return. I’ve worked in companies when people are close to leaving after being there for years, it’s a negative atmosphere no matter how professional people are.

Anyone with half a brain could see what was going to come with lack of investment, especially when your players aren’t committing. I’m done trying to work out who was to blame, it’s pointless.

So what would you do? Stick with the guy who’s philosophy, loyalty and vision has seen you achieve regular champions league football, taken you to finals of competitions, on a shoe string budget, or roll the dice and gamble? Your gamble could pay off, but it’s a risk.. or get the man who has achieved so much with us to rebuild your team, some would argue it is also a risk given the current situation, I would have to disagree to an extent.

For me this is a players vs the manager situation, half these players don’t want to be here and won’t be here come next season, so il back the manager.

 

[FinnYid]

He looked well beaten tonight, he knows he can't turn it around. So why are we delaying inevitable?

 

[dontcallme]

We all need to take a step back and look at it with a reasoned head. We will be loosing Toby, Jan, Eriksen, Aurier, possibly Rose with very little in return. I’ve worked in companies when people are close to leaving after being there for years, it’s a negative atmosphere no matter how professional people are.

Anyone with half a brain could see what was going to come with lack of investment, especially when your players aren’t committing. I’m done trying to work out who was to blame, it’s pointless.

So what would you do? Stick with the guy who’s philosophy, loyalty and vision has seen you achieve regular champions league football, taken you to finals of competitions, on a shoe string budget, or roll the dice and gamble? Your gamble could pay off, but it’s a risk.. or get the man who has achieved so much with us to rebuild your team, some would argue it is also a risk given the current situation, I would have to disagree to an extent.

For me this is a players vs the manager situation, half these players don’t want to be here and won’t be here come next season, so il back the manager.

It appears Poch and Levy are both partly culpable for our lack of investment. Numerous stories of Poch turning down targets. But if he doesn't develop the young players and we don't buy then the result is the squad we have now.

 

[Ben1]

We all need to take a step back and look at it with a reasoned head. We will be loosing Toby, Jan, Eriksen, Aurier, possibly Rose with very little in return. I’ve worked in companies when people are close to leaving after being there for years, it’s a negative atmosphere no matter how professional people are.

Anyone with half a brain could see what was going to come with lack of investment, especially when your players aren’t committing. I’m done trying to work out who was to blame, it’s pointless.

So what would you do? Stick with the guy who’s philosophy, loyalty and vision has seen you achieve regular champions league football, taken you to finals of competitions, on a shoe string budget, or roll the dice and gamble? Your gamble could pay off, but it’s a risk.. or get the man who has achieved so much with us to rebuild your team, some would argue it is also a risk given the current situation, I would have to disagree to an extent.

For me this is a players vs the manager situation, half these players don’t want to be here and won’t be here come next season, so il back the manager.

Manager v Player is never a thing for long. 99/9% of the time it ends in the manager doing a bit of job hunting.

 

[Hercules]

We all need to take a step back and look at it with a reasoned head. We will be loosing Toby, Jan, Eriksen, Aurier, possibly Rose with very little in return. I’ve worked in companies when people are close to leaving after being there for years, it’s a negative atmosphere no matter how professional people are.

Anyone with half a brain could see what was going to come with lack of investment, especially when your players aren’t committing. I’m done trying to work out who was to blame, it’s pointless.

So what would you do? Stick with the guy who’s philosophy, loyalty and vision has seen you achieve regular champions league football, taken you to finals of competitions, on a shoe string budget, or roll the dice and gamble? Your gamble could pay off, but it’s a risk.. or get the man who has achieved so much with us to rebuild your team, some would argue it is also a risk given the current situation, I would have to disagree to an extent.

For me this is a players vs the manager situation, half these players don’t want to be here and won’t be here come next season, so il back the manager.

That argument is past with. And worn out by me in defending him. For me, his time is up! For DL, well that is another thing.