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WiganSpur

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The ironic thing is the golden generation are still holding us back at the moment imo

Which is why alot of the youth watchers don't want Woy in charge. As I said for a while there is a very talented group coming and some might be from our club. However we need a progressive coach with a good sense of developing youth and playing good football.

There are two british managers that come under that for me, Steve McLaren and Brendon Rodgers. Its not going to be the first one because he got knocked out of the groups by two quarter finalists of the euros.
That's the problem isn't it? I think i'd stick with Roy for now until someone else develops, or perhaps go for a foreign coach again.

Most of the golden generation will be gone after this WC anyway. Rooney will be the only one hanging around as Gerrard and Lampard are too old.

Time for players like Ward-Prowse, Morrison, Hughes, Chalobah, Chambers & Stones to get chances over the next couple of yrs.
 

THFCSPURS19

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As Gerrard is likely to start all of our matches in this World Cup, if we get to the Quarter Finals, he will become the highest capped outfield player for England, replacing David Beckham.
 

beats1

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As Gerrard is likely to start all of our matches in this World Cup, if we get to the Quarter Finals, he will become the highest capped outfield player for England, replacing David Beckham.
He will be getting that cap anyway even if we don't because england is a bit of a joke when it comes to this
 

beats1

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That's the problem isn't it? I think i'd stick with Roy for now until someone else develops, or perhaps go for a foreign coach again.

Most of the golden generation will be gone after this WC anyway. Rooney will be the only one hanging around as Gerrard and Lampard are too old.

Time for players like Ward-Prowse, Morrison, Hughes, Chalobah, Chambers & Stones to get chances over the next couple of yrs.
I forgot to reply but cant agree mate, i rather go Hoddle considering how bad its been

As for Hughes and Chalobah both are great prospects but haven't progressed this year. Hughes needs to be a starter again for Derby
 

roosh

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blame it on Pistorious, blame it on Pistorious, blame it on Pistorious, blame it on Pistorious
 

Rout-Ledge

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Anyone remember the last time we beat a genuinely good side in a tournament? Argentina 2002 wasn't it? By a pen. We are wank.
 

gushayes11

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Give Gary Neville the job, fuck it, Give him free reign to start over again. We've tried world renowned managers like Capello, SGE and Hodgson. All of them just as bad. He can't be any worse.
 

spurnut

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Anyone remember the last time we beat a genuinely good side in a tournament? Argentina 2002 wasn't it? By a pen. We are wank.
And they got knocked out in the group stage then too so maybe they weren't so good?
 

Rocksuperstar

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I still think the FA have half an eye on Stuart Pearce for the job, eventually. He's a really popular guy, commands respect even though he's softly spoken and no-one can claim he hasn't seen both sides of the game at international level, good and bad.

It might not be a bad idea, i just expect they are as frustrated that he hasn't gone to a club and shown his mettle "in the field", as it were, as i am. Yet now i say that, i wonder if an international manager would in fact benefit from not having the taint of domestic management to cloud the way they go about it? Without the concern of wages or keeping some prima-dona happy, he could walk into the role focused solely on the job at hand.

I dunno, however it goes though, England need to be stripped down and rebuilt from the ground up with a new attitude, realistic aims and with a manager prepared to look to our younger players and be allowed stick it out for at least two tournaments.
 

beats1

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Anyone remember the last time we beat a genuinely good side in a tournament? Argentina 2002 wasn't it? By a pen. We are wank.
Germany in 2000 but they weren't great

In all honesty probably Netherlands in Euro 1996 who were a good side
 

beats1

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I still think the FA have half an eye on Stuart Pearce for the job, eventually. He's a really popular guy, commands respect even though he's softly spoken and no-one can claim he hasn't seen both sides of the game at international level, good and bad.

It might not be a bad idea, i just expect they are as frustrated that he hasn't gone to a club and shown his mettle "in the field", as it were, as i am. Yet now i say that, i wonder if an international manager would in fact benefit from not having the taint of domestic management to cloud the way they go about it? Without the concern of wages or keeping some prima-dona happy, he could walk into the role focused solely on the job at hand.

I dunno, however it goes though, England need to be stripped down and rebuilt from the ground up with a new attitude, realistic aims and with a manager prepared to look to our younger players and be allowed stick it out for at least two tournaments.
I rather have Woy then Pearce, he is really that bad and has to save his career at forest now
 

jurgen

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No way.. Harry would have put out an even more unstructured mess, and would genuinely believe we actually have top class international players.. same old same old.. hyping up the same type of players.. we had a good chunk of the Liverpool team out there but I think we can all see where the scousers real inspiration was coming from..
 
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