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There is no debate. When did anyone say it was OK?For me racial abuse is an absolute no go area when it comes to sledging or whatever. I just don't see how there's even a debate about that whatsoever.
There is no debate. When did anyone say it was OK?For me racial abuse is an absolute no go area when it comes to sledging or whatever. I just don't see how there's even a debate about that whatsoever.
Yep don't call out racists and bigots in case you make them angry...
For me racial abuse is an absolute no go area when it comes to sledging or whatever. I just don't see how there's even a debate about that whatsoever.
My problem is your epic overreaction to something clearly not meant with intent to offend. Don't act like you don't understand.
I wasn’t sure how ‘sledging’ is defined. Obviously there’s a massive difference between ribbing and racial abuse. I was just talking about verbal abuse on the pitch, rather than implying it was akin to banter.
The first definition I’ve found simply says ‘the act of one sporting player verbally assaulting another in order to make them angry’, so maybe it was appropriate after all. I did say racist sledging in my original post.
I'm not watching. Apparently Hudson-Odoi is a hybrid of Messi and Ronaldo. Is he playing that well or is it a case of the English media over hyping yet another youngster?
There is no debate. When did anyone say it was OK?
Again you're just taking snippets of what I've said to make it convenient for you to try and defend how you reacted.Spurger originally asks if sledging is the appropriate word for it. Ive basically said definitely not, let's not make excuses for it, then several posters have disagrees/given negative rating for it And wedewill has quoted me saying sledging gets aggressive in cricket making out like this is just par for the course.
Sledging is like talking smack, making fun of the other playere etc. to wind them up so they're frustrated and distracted/not concentrating on what they're doing etc. For me brushing off racism on the pitch as just a bit of sledging is letting the Montenegrans off the hook and making excuses for them. That's why I'm saying let's call a spade a spade. It's racist abuse and calling it sledging just downplays it IMO
Again you're just taking snippets of what I've said to make it convenient for you to try and defend how you reacted.
Where did I brush it off? I used the word ‘racist’, then used the word ‘sledging’ with the caveat that it might not be appropriate..
Sorry but even though sledging/talking smack, whatever you want to call it can get pretty brutal at times, and sometimes cross the line even, for me racially abusing someone is so far over the line there's no debate. Or at least there shouldn't be. I'm actually baffled by how many people are downvoting my post for basically saying racism isnt an acceptable form of sledging
Not really, if my answers see short it's largely because I'm on my phone and off to bed
I reacted by answering a question that was posted. I answered it quite emphatically because racism is so clearly not just sledging to me. I don't really see how that's an overreaction, if you think it is then fine. You've said your piece. I've made a post, you've disagreed with it. Let's just leave it at that it's pointless going round in circles with the whole "you said/he said"
Particularly when Montenegro is a Balkan country and nowhere near the ex-soviet union...
I think your post comes across as unnecessarily aggressive and confrontational, I don't know whether it was intentionally so, or not.Sledging? Sledging is calling someone shit or making fun of them when you get past them, not when you spout all kinds of vile comments based on the colour of someone's skin. Call a spade a spade mate. It's racial abuse plain and simple. Sledging? Come off it
Sledging? Sledging is calling someone shit or making fun of them when you get past them, not when you spout all kinds of vile comments based on the colour of someone's skin. Call a spade a spade mate. It's racial abuse plain and simple. Sledging? Come off it
Why and how?What a stupid comment totally taken what was said out of context
Not really.Suppose it’s not racist when aimed at a Middle aged white English man though is it
I think your post comes across as unnecessarily aggressive and confrontational, I don't know whether it was intentionally so, or not.
This is probably why people appear to have taken umbrage to it.
Racism is a touchy subject and one people understadably get passionate about but I don't think many (or any) posters saw anything wrong in what @Spurger King said.
I don't think his comment deserved a response that reads the way yours does.
Probably just a miscommunication though.
I think it was all just a bit of a misunderstanding in the heat of the moment. I apologise for anything I said too.Never meant it to be confrontational at all. I was only saying we shouldnt make some kind of euphemism for it by calling it sledging because, as I explained in another post, that makes it sound like it's just part of the game. Hence me saying call a spade a spade and say racist abuse rather than some euphemism like sledging. Obviously I've worded it poorly given the reaction though I suppose. I've apologized so that's that as far as I'm concerned. Like I say, I never meant it to become some big squabble about anything. I though what I posted was pretty hard to disagree with to be honest. Like I say, I've obviously expressed what I was trying to say poorly though