The beginning of the end...

[Primativ]

Do you have any idea what a soft, entitled, whinging, moaning, non-supporting, ungrateful, unrealistic, and utterly joyless little **** of a supporter this makes you sound like?

And the new stadium is full of it. No one singing. No one bursting with pride and hope and joy for a new season.

Just a bunch of maoning twats, moaning about how shit we were on our way to a Champions League final. And wanting to sack the manager after 3 games - one of which was a point away to City.

We reap what we sow. And we are sowing some pretty fucking horrible seeds right now.

Can you all fuck off out of the South stand and give us our Park Lane back please?

SMH

I actually thought the atmosphere was fine on Sunday at the start, some good chanting until we all realised this was a carry on from the Villa game and we were playing utter shit, with an utterly clueless players, coach and formation at work.

I'm not moaning about our journey to the CL Final, but I'm realistic enough to know it was flukey, and I know we are very far from being a good side at the moment, we've gone horribly backwards.


By all means celebrate the point away to City. I'll worry and fret over the fact we were so disgustingly poor and we got a complete spanking in football terms. That is what worries me, not gaining a stupid point, which we then made worthless anyway by losing at home to Newcastle.

 

[Phomesy]

I actually thought the atmosphere was fine on Sunday at the start, some good chanting until we all realised this was a carry on from the Villa game and we were playing utter shit, with an utterly clueless players, coach and formation at work.

I'm not moaning about our journey to the CL Final, but I'm realistic enough to know it was flukey, and I know we are very far from being a good side at the moment, we've gone horribly backwards.


By all means celebrate the point away to City. I'll worry and fret over the fact we were so disgustingly poor and we got a complete spanking in football terms. That is what worries me, not gaining a stupid point, which we then made worthless anyway by losing at home to Newcastle.

@riggi

Yup. You're right.

We are in big trouble.

So depressing.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Do you have any idea what a soft, entitled, whinging, moaning, non-supporting, ungrateful, unrealistic, and utterly joyless little **** of a supporter this makes you sound like?

And the new stadium is full of it. No one singing. No one bursting with pride and hope and joy for a new season.

Just a bunch of maoning twats, moaning about how shit we were on our way to a Champions League final. And wanting to sack the manager after 3 games - one of which was a point away to City.

We reap what we sow. And we are sowing some pretty fucking horrible seeds right now.

Can you all fuck off out of the South stand and give us our Park Lane back please?

SMH

Poch starts every press conference with pick a fight with a jouno bingo, constantly fuels speculation over his and some players futures while seeming to be in a competition with himself to be more miserable than the day before.
Then before any domestic SF we reach he always goes out of his way to say how much he couldn't care less if we got through and has taken a liking to falling out with players and blaming anything he can think of for dreadful performances.

If you're so keen on reaping what you sow, shouldn't you be leading the calls for Poch to fuck off?

 

[Wadec]

Do you have any idea what a soft, entitled, whinging, moaning, non-supporting, ungrateful, unrealistic, and utterly joyless little **** of a supporter this makes you sound like?

And the new stadium is full of it. No one singing. No one bursting with pride and hope and joy for a new season.

Just a bunch of maoning twats, moaning about how shit we were on our way to a Champions League final. And wanting to sack the manager after 3 games - one of which was a point away to City.

We reap what we sow. And we are sowing some pretty fucking horrible seeds right now.

Can you all fuck off out of the South stand and give us our Park Lane back please?

SMH

Think you're right about the atmosphere, dont think anyone is calling for Poch to get the sack though.

Just concern that we haven't played well as a team for a good while and whilst the CL run was great, we want to kick on this season and it seems that isn't happening so far.

Coupled with Poch's pressers and the talk of losing the dressing room, I think we are all a bit concerned are we not?

As said before, we all want Poch to turn in round and hope he can.

 

[Phomesy]

Poch starts every press conference with pick a fight with a jouno bingo, constantly fuels speculation over his and some players futures while seeming to be in a competition with himself to be more miserable than the day before.
Then before any domestic SF we reach he always goes out of his way to say how much he couldn't care less if we got through and has taken a liking to falling out with players and blaming anything he can think of for dreadful performances.

If you're so keen on reaping what you sow, shouldn't you be leading the calls for Poch to fuck off?

Yes we certainly reaped what we sowed with Poch - four years CL; 1 CL final; several FA Cup SLs; 1 league Cup final.

What a ****. Can't wait to get rid.

Mark my words. We will reap what we sow. Be very fucking careful.

Or at least SING SOME FUCKING SONGS

 

[Phomesy]

Think you're right about the atmosphere, dont think anyone is calling for Poch to get the sack though.

Just concern that we haven't played well as a team for a good while and whilst the CL run was great, we want to kick on this season and it seems that isn't happening so far.

Coupled with Poch's pressers and the talk of losing the dressing room, I think we are all a bit concerned are we not?

As said before, we all want Poch to turn in round and hope he can.

Yes, we are all concerned. Because we have high hopes. High expectations. Which he gave to us. This does not mean he's infalliable. Does not mean he's above criticsm.

But it DOES MEAN HE HAS CREDITS IN THE BANK.

You wouldn't realise that if you were at the stadium on Sunday. And you certainly wouldn't reading this thread.

I have doubts. But I'm appalled by our supporter base at the moment. We are worse than Arsenal. Much much worse. It's hideously embarrassing.

Hideous.

Edit: I expected us to fall in a fucking heap in January. We eventually did in the league but somehow got what we needed too AND MADE A CL FINAL.

The stadium should be a fucking Colosseum. Instead its a mausoleum. What the fuck are we supporters doing? Lift!

 

[Wadec]

Yes, we are all concerned. Because we have high hopes. High expectations. Which he gave to us. This does not mean he's infalliable. Does not mean he's above criticsm.

But it DOES MEAN HE HAS CREDITS IN THE BANK.

You wouldn't realise that if you were at the stadium on Sunday. And you certainly wouldn't reading this thread.

I have doubts. But I'm appalled by our supporter base at the moment. We are worse than Arsenal. Much much worse. It's hideously embarrassing.

Hideous.

Of course he has credits in the bank, deservedly so.

Like I said everyone wants Poch to turn it around and I think he has the perfect game to start that with on Sunday.

Hopefully we get the result we need Sunday, the window shuts and in a months time this is all behind us and we're looking forward to the rest of the season.

 

[WannaDanceWithUdogie]

Jose needed if poch goes

 

[dickieven]

It’s not just this season though, if you read the thread properly then you will see these concerns stem from our poor performances since Christmas.

We’ve also had two ITKs mention that things are not right behind the scenes, with one going as far as saying that Poch has lost the dressing room. That coupled with our performances over the last 8 months and it’s hardly surprising that people have genuine concerns.

Yes I admit I have not read the entire thread so I am sure there are many sensible posts in here but I just skimmed theough and seemed to land on the hysterical ones. Regarding ITK, how often does ITK get proven correct? They have been saying all is not well for years and that Levy has pissed off Poch and he will leave, yet he is still here. I don't believe all the ITK I read.

I don't think we can expect complete harmony in the dressing room all the time anyway. There will always be players, for whatever reason, the manager is not playing or does not fancy at that moment.

What I will agree with though is when our best defender and best midfielder are not in the team but both fit there must be something going on and that can impact the squad morale. Lets hope post transfer window closing next week and hopefully both staying then the excuses disappear.

We have had slow starts before, in fact most seasons it takes us a while to get into a decent lecel of performance. Sunday's performance was poor but for years we have struggled on occasions to break down teams that play with 10 men behind the ball.

Yes from last Christmas our form has dropped but we still finished top four, a league cup semi final defeat on penalties and a champions league final. In my view we should not even comsider changing manager now but if in a few months time the situation is the same then fair enough but let's give Poch and the players a bit more time. I think they deserve it.

 

[WannaDanceWithUdogie]

I just came back from reading festival after picking up my GCSE results and poch is on his way out oh lord was the Newcastle performance that bad?

 

[dtxspurs]

Ok, quick question. Was Mourinho at the stadium on Sunday a typical thing: e.g out of work managers being accommodated at clubs that are concerned about their incumbent manager?

I’m really not a Mourinho fan and hope Poch sorts this problem out. But something has to give soon and @ValenciaYid has been clear today there are major issues currently with Poch.

This is wrecking my well-being

Just read those posts... yikes. Wtf?!

 

[Ben1]

Best way I can put it is that Poch's style of football and press conference charm made it a joy to watch and support Tottenham, whilst the results were thrown in there as well.

I'd quite like the first part back. Still love the fella to pieces, but the spark has faded a fair bit.

And this is football, if (big if, they haven't massively yet) the results go the wrong way, things change.

 

[kthwlsn]

Exactly. I don't get why people seem to just look at the occasion without context. Yes we got to a CL final, whoopeee fucking do. We got there with huge slices of luck, and let's be honest, we all knew we didn't stand a chance against Liverpool, because we were so shit on the way to the final. Our goal led an incredibly charmed life, not just against City and Ajax, but Dortmund too. We also only got out of the group, again to some desperate late goals, just like our league form, and Inter failing to beat PSV. We literally scraped all the way into the final. It was one of the most unconvincing cup runs I've ever witnessed. It was a rollercoaster of emotions and fantastic result wise because we kept getting through to the next round, but the actual performances....we were all over the place.

I’ve read most of the posts in this thread. In my opinion, the bolded is one of the single worst sentences in these 60+ pages.

 

[bat-chain]

What people have to try to remember is that Pochettino knows we have slipped and wants to address it just as much as us, more probably.

It is why he has brought Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sessegnon, he's trying to ready Skipp and Foyth with and Clarke to come, not to mention KWP. He wanted Dybala and Cebalos.

Tottenham needs to be rebuilt and he knows it, he has started that work.

The Vertonghen thing is baffling and sad, we all love Jan and to my mind he's made an error of judgement but he's the manager he's allowed to make decisions. Sanchez has let him down slightly in my opinion. He's backed him totally and he hasn’t performed.

As for the Eriksen issue to my mind we can only back Mauricio. Eriksen doesn’t want to be at Spurs and is seemingly determined to leave on a free. He has to try and plan for life without him because we have no other option, certainly in the future.

 

[king_yid]

Doom mongers the lot of you!

 

[shelfmonkey]

Poch starts every press conference with pick a fight with a jouno bingo, constantly fuels speculation over his and some players futures while seeming to be in a competition with himself to be more miserable than the day before.
Then before any domestic SF we reach he always goes out of his way to say how much he couldn't care less if we got through and has taken a liking to falling out with players and blaming anything he can think of for dreadful performances.

If you're so keen on reaping what you sow, shouldn't you be leading the calls for Poch to fuck off?

He's turned into a Maureen clone!!

 

[shelfmonkey]

Exactly. I don't get why people seem to just look at the occasion without context. Yes we got to a CL final, whoopeee fucking do. We got there with huge slices of luck, and let's be honest, we all knew we didn't stand a chance against Liverpool, because we were so shit on the way to the final. Our goal led an incredibly charmed life, not just against City and Ajax, but Dortmund too. We also only got out of the group, again to some desperate late goals, just like our league form, and Inter failing to beat PSV. We literally scraped all the way into the final. It was one of the most unconvincing cup runs I've ever witnessed. It was a rollercoaster of emotions and fantastic result wise because we kept getting through to the next round, but the actual performances....we were all over the place.

An honest and objective view. I agree entirely???

 

[shelfmonkey]

Yes we certainly reaped what we sowed with Poch - four years CL; 1 CL final; several FA Cup SLs; 1 league Cup final.

And bottled every single one of 'em!!!

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

An honest and objective view. I agree entirely???

In which case you ought to be embarrassed.

Whoopeee fucking do my pert, pear shaped and perfectly formed arse.

There’s atomic levels of entitlement right there

 

[ValenciaYid]

Just for the record we are not supposed to be mid table Tottenham anymore...Morning COYS