The 1st Un-Official Spurs Community Best & Worst of the Decade Vote Shortlist

[BringBack_leGin]

I'm amazed at the amount of people saying Rebrov because he was an expensive flop, but ignoring Bentley who was more expensive and a bigger flop.

Rebrov's first season yielded 9 goals in 29 appearances in the league, and a further 3 from 7 in the cups. That is a 1/3 strike rate in total in a side completely devoid of creativity, in his first season. He only ever came off the bench in his second season as Hoddle paired Ferdinand and Sheringham mostly.

Dimitar Berbatov, in his first season, scored 12 goals in the league in 33 appearances, and that in a far better and more creative side, and 4 in 8 in the cups, giving him a record of 1/2.5 domestically. His 7 in 8 really boosted his record in Europe, but Rebrov never got to play against lowly eastern european minnows who we scored highly against.

Berbatov cost half a million less than Rebrov, and his domestic strike rate (in a far better side) was barely better. Was he a flop?

 

[Partizan]

Best Manager: Martin Jol

Best Player: Dimitar Berbatov

Worst Player: Greg Rasiak

Biggest Wooley: Sol Campbell

Best Signing: Aaron Lennon

Worst Signing: David Bentley

Greatest Game: West Ham 3-4 Tottenham

Worst Game: West Ham 2-1 Tottenham

Best Goal: Erik Edman v Liverpool

Best Shirt: The chocolate kit we used in 06-07

Worst Shirt: 09/10 home kit

 

[Matt C]

I'm amazed at the amount of people saying Rebrov because he was an expensive flop, but ignoring Bentley who was more expensive and a bigger flop.

Rebrov's first season yielded 9 goals in 29 appearances in the league, and a further 3 from 7 in the cups. That is a 1/3 strike rate in total in a side completely devoid of creativity, in his first season. He only ever came off the bench in his second season as Hoddle paired Ferdinand and Sheringham mostly.

Dimitar Berbatov, in his first season, scored 12 goals in the league in 33 appearances, and that in a far better and more creative side, and 4 in 8 in the cups, giving him a record of 1/2.5 domestically. His 7 in 8 really boosted his record in Europe, but Rebrov never got to play against lowly eastern european minnows who we scored highly against.

Berbatov cost half a million less than Rebrov, and his domestic strike rate (in a far better side) was barely better. Was he a flop?

We trebled our money on Berbatov, Rebrov we had to give away, one went to the biggest team in the world and the other went to West Ham reserves, says it all about the impact

 

[BringBack_leGin]

We trebled our money on Berbatov, Rebrov we had to give away, one went to the biggest team in the world and the other went to West Ham reserves, says it all about the impact

My point wasn't that Berbatov was a flop, he clearly wasn't, he was a genius and I wish we still had him. My point was that Rebrov did alright when he was given a chance, in a much worse team. Clearly though you have ignored all the carefully constructed argument and jumped straight down my throat in typically brash and unreasonable fashion. Good show.. good show :clap:

 

[eddiev14]

In my lifetime....

Best Manager: Martin Jol

Best Player: David Ginola

Worst Player: Ramon Vega

Biggest Wooley: Campbell

Best Signing: Jurgen Klinsmann

Worst Signing: Rebrov

Greatest Game: Tottenham 9-1 Wigan 09/10

Worst Game: FA Cup vs Man City 03/04 season. 3-4 home defeat having been 3-0 up against ten men at half time.

Best Goal: Ginola vs Barnsley - FA Cup. The mazy dribble.

Best Shirt: 04/05 Kappa home shirt

Worst Shirt: The Pony years!

 

[Matt C]

My point wasn't that Berbatov was a flop, he clearly wasn't, he was a genius and I wish we still had him. My point was that Rebrov did alright when he was given a chance, in a much worse team. Clearly though you have ignored all the carefully constructed argument and jumped straight down my throat in typically brash and unreasonable fashion. Good show.. good show :clap:

My point was that if Rebrov really was any good we would have got our money back on him or even close to it, if we sell Bentley we will still get 10-12m for him so the fact that no one wanted Rebrov and had to give him away to get him off the wage bill even if he had a raw deal at Spurs shows we were sold a pup

If Rebrov was good teams would have been falling over themselves to 'rescue him from his Spurs hell'

 

[mil1lion]

Rebrov was another victim of the change of manager. Signed under Graham but not used under Hoddle. Can you imagine how much money (or lack of) we would have made on Carrick if Santini stayed in charge?

 

[Matt C]

Rebrov was another victim of the change of manager. Signed under Graham but not used under Hoddle. Can you imagine how much money (or lack of) we would have made on Carrick if Santini stayed in charge?

We would have got our money back on Carrick, Newcastle or someone would have bought him, Carrick was already an England international with lots of PL experience when we bought him

Rebrov was unproven here

 

[Loque]

My point was that if Rebrov really was any good we would have got our money back on him or even close to it, if we sell Bentley we will still get 10-12m for him so the fact that no one wanted Rebrov and had to give him away to get him off the wage bill even if he had a raw deal at Spurs shows we were sold a pup

If Rebrov was good teams would have been falling over themselves to 'rescue him from his Spurs hell'

Yes, but the point was Rebrov was already much older with no resale value at a time when £11M transfers were big. The current situation is that Bentley is still relatively young, proven track record in the premier league and there much, much more money in the game (reference Man City, Chelsea, etc.). Add to that the fact Bentley is English and you can see why we'd get circa £10M for him.

There is no way that Rebrov was a dud - this is a man who was fairly prolific in the Champions League, with over 70 odd caps for his country. Wasn't cut out for the EPL, fair enough. You are of course entitled to your own opinions, but to suggest he wasn't any good I just cannot agree with.

 

[WexfordTownSpur]

Just in case you didn't understand the thread title, its pretty simple, all you have to do is nominate someone for each of the awards, all those who get at least three nominations will then qualify for the main poll. The nominations will run for 1 week. The main poll will then run after that.

Best Manager - BMJ
Worst Manager - Glenn Hoddle
Best Player - Dimitar Berbatov
Worst Player - Rasiak
Biggest Wooley - Sol Campbell
Best Signing - Berbs
Worst Signing - Pav
Greatest Game - Spurs 2 - 1 Chelsea (Carling Cup Final)
Worst Game - Spurs 1 - 2 Wham (Upton Park 2005/06)
Best Goal - Bentley V Arse
Best Shirt - Adidas 01/02 light blue away shirt (very cool).
Worst Shirt - Any Kappa (slim fit) shirt.

 

[mil1lion]

We would have got our money back on Carrick, Newcastle or someone would have bought him, Carrick was already an England international with lots of PL experience when we bought him

Rebrov was unproven here

We wouldn't have made £18m if he'd stayed on the bench under Santini.

As for Rebrov, i dont tend to judge players based on what we paid for them. The money we spent on him had nothing to do with Rebrov. He came in, didn't get much chance to find his feet, got frozen out and watched his value drop.

I voted Bentley simply on the fact that he was a top player for Blackburn, on the verge of replacing Beckham, and now he is nowhere near the national team. I dont think its fair to judge Bentley or Rebrov on what we paid for them. That was our mistake and nothing to do with the players.

 

[simyid]

Best Manager - I love MARTIN jOL and MARTIN JOL loves me....
Worst Manager - Juande Ramos
Best Player - Robbie Keane
Worst Player - zamora
Biggest Wooley - Judas
Best Signing - aaron lennon/kranjar
Worst Signing - David bentley
Greatest Game - 4-3 against the spammers
Worst Game - 0-1 against wolves( it was so depressing)
Best Goal - ziege against arsenal/bentley against arsenal
Best Shirt - last year black and gold
Worst Shirt- 05/06 yellow and blue as we lost every game while playin in it

 

[DiscoD1882]

Best Manager Martin Jol

Worst Manager - Juande Ramos

Best Player Berby

Worst Player Gary Docherty

Biggest Wooley Sol !"$%^&**

Best Signing Dimitar Berbatov

Worst Signing Helda Postiga

Greatest Game Spurs Vs Arsenal 5-1 Cc Semi Final

Worst Game Manure defeat last season

Best Goal Lennons Tap in to make it 4-4 against the scum

Best Shirt 125th anniversary home shirt

Worst Shirt Kappa shirt (all white one)

 

[AirTito]

Best Manager: Martin Jol

Best Player: Dimitar Berbatov

Worst Player: Rasiak

Biggest Wooley: Judas

Best Signing: Aaron Lennon

Worst Signing: David Bentley

Greatest Game: West Ham 3-4 Tottenham/Scum 1-5 Tottenham

Worst Game: West Ham 2-1 Tottenham

Best Goal: Keane when he scored against Chelski in the 4-4 draw

Best Shirt: (Ill get stick for it) 09-10 Home Kit

Worst Shirt: Any Kappa Kit

 

[werty]

Best Manager Martin Jol

Best Player Robbie Keane

Worst Player Rasiak

Biggest Wooley Campbell

Best Signing Lennon

Worst Signing Bentley

Greatest Game 4-3 against West Ham

Worst Game 3-5 with UTD

Best Goal Edman vs Liverpool

Best Shirt 00/01 Home shirt

Worst Shirt Any of the Kappa

 

[LSUY]

Best Manager - Martin Jol
Worst Manager - Juande Ramos
Best Player - David Ginola
Worst Player - Rasiak
Biggest Wooley - Dimitar Berbatov
Best Signing - Michael Carrick (turned us into a top team in the league)
Worst Signing - Sergei Rebrov (with all the hype he arrived with he was disappointing)
Greatest Game - vs Chelsea, Lg Cup Semi-Final 2nd leg, 5-1(01-02?)
Worst Game - vs Blackburn, Lg CupFinal
Best Goal - Robbo's against Watford
Best Shirt - 01-02 Adidas home shirt
Worst Shirt -03-04 Kappa third shirt(that horrible purple shirt)

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I'm amazed at the amount of people saying Rebrov because he was an expensive flop, but ignoring Bentley who was more expensive and a bigger flop.

Rebrov's first season yielded 9 goals in 29 appearances in the league, and a further 3 from 7 in the cups. That is a 1/3 strike rate in total in a side completely devoid of creativity, in his first season. He only ever came off the bench in his second season as Hoddle paired Ferdinand and Sheringham mostly.

Dimitar Berbatov, in his first season, scored 12 goals in the league in 33 appearances, and that in a far better and more creative side, and 4 in 8 in the cups, giving him a record of 1/2.5 domestically. His 7 in 8 really boosted his record in Europe, but Rebrov never got to play against lowly eastern european minnows who we scored highly against.

Berbatov cost half a million less than Rebrov, and his domestic strike rate (in a far better side) was barely better. Was he a flop?

Fuck me, twice in a week I've agreed with something you've said. We're on a hatrick.

Good post.
Absolutely ludicrous that people would call Rebrov the worst signing. If we'd actually signed anyone else with a brain to play with him or if Hoddle hadn't had his head up his arse and paired Rebrov with Sheringham we'd have seen the real player.

A cracking little player who worked hard too, unfortunately was having to play with the lobotomised Leonardson and co.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Fuck me, twice in a week I've agreed with something you've said. We're on a hatrick.

Good post.
Absolutely ludicrous that people would call Rebrov the worst signing. If we'd actually signed anyone else with a brain to play with him or if Hoddle hadn't had his head up his arse and paired Rebrov with Sheringham we'd have seen the real player.

A cracking little player who worked hard too, unfortunately was having to play with the lobotomised Leonardson and co.

Ooh but now you've gone and tempted fate!

Leonhardsen, sherwood, freund... The poor little sod never stood a chance. Ginola sold, korsren injured! At least when we sold waddle, we still had gazza to supply the bullets for lineker.

How people say rebrov was a flop, no value for money, didn't live up to the hype is beyond me when those same people continue to absolve bentley

 

[ShelfSide18]

Ooh but now you've gone and tempted fate!

Leonhardsen, sherwood, freund... The poor little sod never stood a chance. Ginola sold, korsren injured! At least when we sold waddle, we still had gazza to supply the bullets for lineker.

How people say rebrov was a flop, no value for money, didn't live up to the hype is beyond me when those same people continue to absolve bentley

Ditto, he was a gifted player - remember that pearler against Newcastle?

Unfortunately the guy stood no chance with a team devoid of any shred of creativity and a manager so cautious he makes Stoke look expansive. I remember he ended a 4 game 0-0 streak with an injury time winner away at Man City in 2000, nearly 5, yes FIVE, 0-0s in a row. I remember when he signed we were all licking our lips at the thought of Ginola providing the ammunition for him - you know what happens next.

When we have threads about how depressing now is, I just have to think back to sitting through nearly 450 minutes of football without a goal.

 

[ShelfSide18]

Anyway, my choices...

Best Manager Martin Jol - Started the ball rolling for where we are now, gave me my Spurs back, great character.

Worst Manager Man in a raincoat - Terrible football, sold my idol.

Best Player Robbie Keane - 120 goals.

Worst Player Ben Thatcher - Awful footballer, not a nice bloke.

Biggest Wooley The 'fan' who abused BAE then ran off to the police to report an 'assault'.

Best Signing Robbie Keane - 7 million that brought 120 goals, a player that was instrumental in keeping us up in 03/04, spearheaded 2 successful european qualification challenges and our only trophy this decade.

Worst Signing Ben Thatcher - we spent 5 million on this guy, that's really all that needs to be said.

Greatest Game West Ham 3 Spurs 4 - Tottenham Hotspur summed up in 90 minutes of football.

Worst Game Fa Cup Semi Final at Old Trafford against them.

Best Goal Stalteri at West Ham, great counter attack started by Lee, the drive forward, then the tap in which sent the away end into ecstasy.

Best Kit 07/08 Home shirt - Just White.

Worst Kit 05/06 Blue and Yellow monstrosity.