Summer 2022 Window Scouting Thread

[cookiemonster]

Schick among the strikers Tottenham could target as they look for Kane cover

A new striker needs to be a transfer priority for Fabio Paratici and Tottenham this summer, with questions over Harry Kane's future and back-up needed

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For those who are lazy as fuck and don't feel like reading - the strikers on this list are.

Patrik Schick (my boy)
Darwin Nunez
Paulo Dybala
Lautaro Martinez
Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Memphis Depay

Who we taking from this list and why?

None of them good enough to replace Kane

 

[Trix]

I get the multiple targets approach, but look at our best signing of recent years, Romero, we zeroed in on one target and paid maybe over the odds at the time, which now looks a snip.

I’d kinda rather we picked four players we thought were absolutely the ones for us and put everything into them than spin the roulette wheel and see what turns up.

Romero was completely different in that FP knew everything about the player and contract situation because he'd been involved in his move before, and who is to say he didn't have other options as well as Romero and that was the one he pulled the trigger on?

I mean FP had literally been here five minutes when we signed him. You make it sound like as a club we'd been tracking him for ages and made him our prime target. That just wasn't the case, and was purely down to FP knowing we could get a very good young defender on a very favourable deal, using inside information.

 

[spurs9]

Last five seasons for Lyon and Barca he averages 39 games a season, so not sure where you’ve got that.

DCL has missed 21 games through injury in the last 3 years, in the same time frame Depay has missed 38 games.

 

[Tottenham_God]

None of them good enough to replace Kane

Yeah, I mean all of my ex's say the same about me. It happens.

Because, like me, Kane is absolutely world-class and irreplaceable.

However, that doesn't change the fact we need another striker, and or, someone to put the ball in the net if Kane does leave.

I'm riding Schick hard.

 

[cider spurs]

I get the multiple targets approach, but look at our best signing of recent years, Romero, we zeroed in on one target and paid maybe over the odds at the time, which now looks a snip.

I’d kinda rather we picked four players we thought were absolutely the ones for us and put everything into them than spin the roulette wheel and see what turns up.

I'm not sure your logic stacks up.

We're unlikely to get all of Conte’s first choice targets. We might offer a little over the odds to get some, might offer over the odds and certain players fancy another team for various reasons.

I think it would show a lack of planning if we didn't have numerous targets as back ups should our first or second choices fail to materialise.

Would it be wrong to think that we'd be working as hard as possible on first choice targets in the first instance in any case ??.

 

[Stevomullan18]

Just so everyone knows.... FP genuinely does have multiple options for each position(circa 20 names I've heard already), not only does he get them into a list but he speaks to the clubs and agents regarding our interest, and also in some cases publicly(purposely) sends scouts out to watch them. There are a lot of names we are are looking at and indeed talking to, and of course we will only be getting a small number of them in comparison to how many we are "interested" in.

I'm just posting this for context because inevitably some of those players will end up elsewhere. This does not necessarily mean we've been gazumped, outspent or rejected as the media will 100% quote is the case. Of course that may well happen along the way as it did with Diaz, but it's far more likely considering the number of players involved that they were not the players we were targeting as highest priority. Even if it's the one you personally think is the best option based on a few youtube clips.

There is no question this Summer will be the busiest we have ever had when you consider the quantity of outs on top of the ins.

Keep the faith and trust what AC and FP are doing, it was always leading up to this.

This is really quite a frustrating way to work. I get we need to have backup options in case we can't secure our number one targets, but we should really be going all out to secure main targets EARLY. Not messing about securing many other options. Contingency planning is of course essential, but securing number one targets needs to be the main aim. It's how the big clubs (winners) work.

I just hope Conte gets the players he wants, because we all know what he can do with sufficient backing!

 

[Wig]

None of them good enough to replace Kane

Who said Kane needs replacing? Kane's attributes are irreplaceable in one player, but there are other solutions available.

 

[Trix]

This is really quite a frustrating way to work. I get we need to have backup options in case we can't secure our number one targets, but we should really be going all out to secure main targets EARLY. Not messing about securing many other options. Contingency planning is of course essential, but securing number one targets needs to be the main aim. It's how the big clubs (winners) work.

I just hope Conte gets the players he wants, because we all know what he can do with sufficient backing!

And what if that main option is also being courted by Madrid or Barca and is waiting to see if they follow through first? Or will only move to a CL club? Or the selling club is wanting too much money right now but we know they will accept less if other moves happen. Or we need 2 HG players out of the 6 we want but are unsure if we can get the 2 HG we want?

I could go on and on tbh, and lets face it how many times have we been burnt in the past because the main option has fallen through and there has been panic buying because of the lack of back up options available to us.

Transfers are easy if you are on FM or are Manchester City. It's not so easy when you are Spurs and are trying to buy elite players against Elite teams who are guaranteed CL, and to who money is no object.

People on here been moaning for the longest time that we go into transfer windows with no obvious plan. We finally establish one and according to some we should revert back to all in on one player who may or may not end up coming. I mean it's not like we won't have a preferred option, just pointing out that might not be the one you want it to be, and that with every player that doesn't come the press will call it out as one we've missed out on.

 

[danielneeds]

DCL has missed 21 games through injury in the last 3 years, in the same time frame Depay has missed 38 games.

Yeah, but that was because of one ACL injury mostly. That’s the only real injury he’s had in the last five seasons, so seems chuish to label him injury prone, no?

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

I think this negative spin will be used a lot. We’ll look at numerous targets and if we don’t get the one most on here wanted as first choice we’ll see numerous posts of penny pinching and taking 2nd choices.

We missed out on top targets in January to Barcelona, Juventus and Liverpool.

The players we got were very good signings. Previously we probably wouldn’t have bought anyone after missing out on Vlahovic, Diaz and Traore.

The negative spin will always happen though.

If we go out and get decent players in all of the six positions that Conte has identified us as being weak in then I don’t think there will be any negative spin…. I think a large majority of fans would be happy for 2 or 3 of those to be free transfers as well.

 

[dontcallme]

If we go out and get decent players in all of the six positions that Conte has identified us as being weak in then I don’t think there will be any negative spin…. I think a large majority of fans would be happy for 2 or 3 of those to be free transfers as well.

It’s SC. There’ll always be negative spin.

 

[dontcallme]

Yeah, but that was because of one ACL injury mostly. That’s the only real injury he’s had in the last five seasons, so seems chuish to label him injury prone, no?

Strange. It’s quoted me but I didn’t make that post.

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

This is really quite a frustrating way to work. I get we need to have backup options in case we can't secure our number one targets, but we should really be going all out to secure main targets EARLY. Not messing about securing many other options. Contingency planning is of course essential, but securing number one targets needs to be the main aim. It's how the big clubs (winners) work.

I just hope Conte gets the players he wants, because we all know what he can do with sufficient backing!

You’re (incorrectly) assuming that the two things are mutually exclusive.

 

[dontcallme]

This is really quite a frustrating way to work. I get we need to have backup options in case we can't secure our number one targets, but we should really be going all out to secure main targets EARLY. Not messing about securing many other options. Contingency planning is of course essential, but securing number one targets needs to be the main aim. It's how the big clubs (winners) work.

I just hope Conte gets the players he wants, because we all know what he can do with sufficient backing!

The big clubs are more likely to get their top targets. That’s the major flaw in your argument.

 

[danielneeds]

And what if that main option is also being courted by Madrid or Barca and is waiting to see if they follow through first? Or will only move to a CL club? Or the selling club is wanting too much money right now but we know they will accept less if other moves happen. Or we need 2 HG players out of the 6 we want but are unsure if we can get the 2 HG we want?

I could go on and on tbh, and lets face it how many times have we been burnt in the past because the main option has fallen through and there has been panic buying because of the lack of back up options available to us.

Transfers are easy if you are on FM or are Manchester City. It's not so easy when you are Spurs and are trying to buy elite players against Elite teams who are guaranteed CL, and to who money is no object.

People on here been moaning for the longest time that we go into transfer windows with no obvious plan. We finally establish one and according to some we should revert back to all in on one player who may or may not end up coming................

I don’t think anyone’s saying only have one player, but I just favour a more planned out window. I also think there is something to be said for courting your preferred target for a long time and letting them know they are central to your vision rather than their agent hearing you are after 10 players in that position.

That may fly at Juve where pretty much all Italian players are desperate to join and a lot of foreign imports are too, but we are a different kettle of fish. It’s all moot anyway, this is Paratici’s MO and we’ll just have to ride it out and hope for more Romeros and Kulus.

 

[danielneeds]

Strange. It’s quoted me but I didn’t make that post.

Ah my fault, I think I was gonna reply to another post and cut some stuff out.

 

[spurs9]

Yeah, but that was because of one ACL injury mostly. That’s the only real injury he’s had in the last five seasons, so seems chuish to label him injury prone, no?

I didn't label him injury prone, I said he was just as prone to injury as DCL.

19 of the 38 games Depay missed were due to that ACL injury. 16 of 21 DCL missed were due to a broken toe, so my point stands.

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

I don’t think anyone’s saying only have one player, but I just favour a more planned out window. I also think there is something to be said for courting your preferred target for a long time and letting them know they are central to your vision rather than their agent hearing you are after 10 players in that position.

That may fly at Juve where pretty much all Italian players are desperate to join and a lot of foreign imports are too, but we are a different kettle of fish. It’s all moot anyway, this is Paratici’s MO and we’ll just have to ride it out and hope for more Romeros and Kulus.

Again, you are assuming that we’re not doing this. I’m sure we are very actively courting our top choice players but it would be incredibly foolish to assume that we would be able to even sign 1 in 3 or 4 of our top choice players as the competition is likely to be fierce (unless our top choice targets are of a not particularly high standard).

 

[$hoguN]

And what if that main option is also being courted by Madrid or Barca and is waiting to see if they follow through first? Or will only move to a CL club? Or the selling club is wanting too much money right now but we know they will accept less if other moves happen. Or we need 2 HG players out of the 6 we want but are unsure if we can get the 2 HG we want?

I could go on and on tbh, and lets face it how many times have we been burnt in the past because the main option has fallen through and there has been panic buying because of the lack of back up options available to us.

Transfers are easy if you are on FM or are Manchester City. It's not so easy when you are Spurs and are trying to buy elite players against Elite teams who are guaranteed CL, and to who money is no object.

People on here been moaning for the longest time that we go into transfer windows with no obvious plan. We finally establish one and according to some we should revert back to all in on one player who may or may not end up coming. I mean it's not like we won't have a preferred option, just pointing out that might not be the one you want it to be, and that with every player that doesn't come the press will call it out as one we've missed out on.

This is so important for us all to realise. We have a plan. It might not seem to us all that we get the best player (based on the judgment of a forum) for each position, but the importance is ensuring that we land the best solution overall.

There also needs to be realism about just how many we can move on. Some players will stay as they can do a job until we can make another change which may not occur in the next window.

 

[danielneeds]

I didn't label him injury prone, I said he was just as prone to injury as DCL.

19 of the 38 games Depay missed were due to that ACL injury. 16 of 21 DCL missed were due to a broken toe, so my point stands.

Fair enough. Yes, I don’t think DCL is injury prone either. Just had bad luck this year.