Match Threads Spurs vs Wolves - Match Thread

[CowInAComa]

I'm not gonna lie. I quite enjoyed watching the match.

 

[shelfboy68]

I'm not gonna lie. I quite enjoyed watching the match.

I'm extremely delighted for you I try to restrain myself but the happiness for you just overwhelmed me fella.

 

[adamsky]

Opposition players just run past us with the ball. Nothing wrong with a tactical foul now and then. We could have stopped the 2nd & 3rd goal by simply bringing down the player early on in the attack.

 

[Norgie]

I'm not going to have a meltdown about yesterdays game, it was disappointing but I thought we played well especially first half. Wolves are a good team and if Deli had put that header away it would of been a different outcome I think. I'm hoping for a win against Norwich to get some winning momentum back.

 

[cjbyid]

Opposition players just run past us with the ball. Nothing wrong with a tactical foul now and then. We could have stopped the 2nd & 3rd goal by simply bringing down the player early on in the attack.

Yep was very frustrating for those goals, mourinho even said afterwards that we're to nice a team on the pitch.

 

[rupsmith]

I have asked this question before but can someone tell me when transition ends and we actually start delivering as a club, because all I ever hear every year is one of transition.
So when does this club actually get something right and deliver on it and when does transition end and success begins.

Well Jose has been in charge for about 3 months so not exactly too much time to stamp his mark

 

[TonyK]

He didn’t have a good game but to say you’ve never seen him play well is ridiculous...either you don’t watch us much or just a massive knee jerk

I never miss a spurs game, even the ones that aren’t on the telly. I honestly think that there has maybe been one or two games where I’ve thought that Winks was alright but more often than not, he just seems to go missing. He doesn’t score many goals, doesn’t offer much defensively, has no pace, can’t beat a man, doesn’t create many chances, doesn’t have a physical presence, isn’t great in the air. Do I need to go on?

He may ‘keep the ball moving’ but how many of those passes are key passes?? He is certainly no Luka Modric.

So I don’t agree that my comment was a massive knee jerk at all. I just feel that we are a man down when he plays. And that makes it 2 men down when you consider Dier’s terrible form as well at the moment. Why give your opponent an advantage???

 

[m*****73]

Or it might actually make him splash the cash. I bet him and lewis love the revenue the CL brings in and they would do what they could to get back in there.

Its also interesting your views on the game today. A few would say we played well today but individual mistakes cost us but you make out we were very poor overall.

Yeah, there were individual errors, but I was more worried that I didn't see enough leadership or desire from the team in general. Too many of them just playing it safe. Call it courage, or desire, or hunger, or leadership, whatever.... it was missing. We should've been really up for this game, against another team fitting for a possible top 5 place, on our home patch, after two defeats, looking to prove a point... but I didn't see it. And I think it was also felt in the stands. Too much apathy.

 

[AllSeeingEye]

And I think it was also felt in the stands. Too much apathy.

Agreed - the crowd were audibly annoyed by the failure to nudge players off the ball when in danger areas, and then went far too quite after we'd conceded. The disbelief when Parrott was brought on with barely five mins on the clock was more than palpable. I've not been as animated at a game for a long time but to actually lead a chant or two was a first... SING UP TOTTENHAM!!

 

[spursfan77]

Traore went off injured. It will be interesting to see how long he’s out for. I wasn’t that impressed with him anyway.

 

[Gb160]

Traore went off injured. It will be interesting to see how long he’s out for. I wasn’t that impressed with him anyway.

Yeah it was his shoulder again, he had dislocated it before.

 

[shelfboy68]

Well Jose has been in charge for about 3 months so not exactly too much time to stamp his mark

That doesn't explain the years of transition leading up to more years of transition.

 

[Gassin's finest]

I never miss a spurs game, even the ones that aren’t on the telly. I honestly think that there has maybe been one or two games where I’ve thought that Winks was alright but more often than not, he just seems to go missing. He doesn’t score many goals, doesn’t offer much defensively, has no pace, can’t beat a man, doesn’t create many chances, doesn’t have a physical presence, isn’t great in the air. Do I need to go on?

He may ‘keep the ball moving’ but how many of those passes are key passes?? He is certainly no Luka Modric.

So I don’t agree that my comment was a massive knee jerk at all. I just feel that we are a man down when he plays. And that makes it 2 men down when you consider Dier’s terrible form as well at the moment. Why give your opponent an advantage???

 

[whitesocks]

I'd have to watch the game again to firm up my views, and I don't hate myself enough to do that.
But postmatch Mourinho heaped praise on Dier, telling how great it is to have a player who can shift into midfield and do his hybrid thing, and what a great game he had.

Well I remember him being all over the place for their first goal and I cannot remember him stepping up to midfield at all.
Memories can be deceptive but I saw him playing behind the other 2 as a sweeper in a combined low block.
This might have been OK if Wolves had gone for us, but they were knackered after their europa trip.

So we had lots of inert AVB style possession up the field which so many seem to be really pleased with, with a defence that wasn't pressing up.
The technical term for this is we were not compact, I believe, so wolves could break and there was no midfield to stop them.

It was not good tactics - tactics made by a committee rather than a manager.
"You wanted us to win the possession - we did. You wanted me to play Parrott. I did. I said we'd lose. We did.". If that is the narrative of the game, then while I can see there was some glory to be had from what was an entertaining game, it is not why mourinho was brought to the club. He was brought to win.

 

[shelfboy68]

I'd have to watch the game again to firm up my views, and I don't hate myself enough to do that.
But postmatch Mourinho heaped praise on Dier, telling how great it is to have a player who can shift into midfield and do his hybrid thing, and what a great game he had.

Well I remember him being all over the place for their first goal and I cannot remember him stepping up to midfield at all.
Memories can be deceptive but I saw him playing behind the other 2 as a sweeper in a combined low block.
This might have been OK if Wolves had gone for us, but they were knackered after their europa trip.

So we had lots of inert AVB style possession up the field which so many seem to be really pleased with, with a defence that wasn't pressing up.
The technical term for this is we were not compact, I believe, so wolves could break and there was no midfield to stop them.

It was not good tactics - tactics made by a committee rather than a manager.
"You wanted us to win the possession - we did. You wanted me to play Parrott. I did. I said we'd lose. We did.". If that is the narrative of the game, then while I can see there was some glory to be had from what was an entertaining game, it is not why mourinho was brought to the club. He was brought to win.

Yes usually a club hires Jose to win the big shiny stuff however in our case that is not the case, he probably hasn't been at a club quite like ours before a team not in position to be winner's it begs the team why is he here?

 

[Up From Dover]

Just seen extended highlights of the game. Looked a much better performance in terms of playing positively. We seemed to have more players in the box when attacking and generally went for the games.

Undone by some sloppy mistakes against good players. I thought young Tanganga was not helped by having to play on the left side where he did not look comfortable. Might have been better to have switched him and Davies as I think Davies is a better centre back than a full back and Tanganga has the pace Davies lacks. But we needed a left sided central defender.

All in all the article in the ‘I’ today is not far off the mark in the assertion that Aurier epitomises the team, veering from the sublime to the ridiculous.

I was at the game and agree about moving Davies to CB. When you play with three at the back you need wing backs to get forward. Davies doesn't do that enough whereas I think Tanganga would have done. Davies was often unmarked out on the left but as soon as he received the ball proceeded to pass it backwards.
I will add that he wasn't alone in repeatedly passing backwards or sideways!

 

[worcestersauce]

From what Mourinho said the choice of Tanganga in the back three along with Sanchez was due to their speed, he needed the back three to have the pace to match their forwards on the break.

 

[RikkiRocket]

Just looking at remaining fixtures and given current form I can’t see any joy, at all.

 

[RikkiRocket]

Yes usually a club hires Jose to win the big shiny stuff however in our case that is not the case, he probably hasn't been at a club quite like ours before a team not in position to be winner's it begs the team why is he here?

£13m reasons.

 

[Hawk_Spur]

Opposition players just run past us with the ball. Nothing wrong with a tactical foul now and then. We could have stopped the 2nd & 3rd goal by simply bringing down the player early on in the attack.

They tried on both.

Not having a go at anyone not being able to bring Traore down as he is an absolute beast however not to bring Jota down in the lead up of the third was poor.