Soldado playing in the VdV role in a 451 formation

[Kendall]

Buy 3 number 10s, Kane plays great at number 10...


...play Soldado there instead.

 

[rocklink]

Soldado needs to play the diego costa/ aguero role

 

[SteveH]

He cant/wont run as much as Rafa, which just says everything.

 

[SteveH]

Soldado needs to play the diego costa/ aguero role

Ya think?

Sorry for the sarcasm but I believe he was bought to do the role. He is just not good enough!

 

[spurs-r-us]

Soldado - eh.

A season and a quarter down at his age and his money and what does he have to show for it?

Zip.

Leave the 'potential' for players who are 8-10 years younger than him.

Nothing personal, because he seems like a genuine nice guy but - eh.

 

[mattyspurs]

No

 

[Jamturk]

Why don't we just sell him and buy a better striker?

He isn't suited or good enough for England.

Quite simple really.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Soldado doesn't run enough to play the VdV role. Though he does have fantastic vision and passing.

Play him with Ade in a 442 or as the striker in a 4231 with three of Eriksen/Chadli/Lamela/Kane behind him.

We tried that under Sherwood, he still couldnt hit a barn door.

 

[mpickard2087]

If this is what our £20m+ supposed lethal goalscoring No. 9 has been reduced to then we may as well give up on him.

 

[mark87]

I think soldado can very much play the no 10 role but we have plenty of no 10s already, I still really wanna see Soldado get a run of games with Lamela and eriksen behind him andaybe even kane as well.

 

[Mullers]

Soldado cost 26 million we bought him to be top scorer like you said, if he can't do it this season then we need to get rid and get some of that fee back rather than turn him into a Fake VDV wannabe.

 

[Shea]

Soldado cost 26 million we bought him to be top scorer like you said, if he can't do it this season then we need to get rid and get some of that fee back rather than turn him into a Fake VDV wannabe.

Agreed

He's a good player I think but not suited to our set up and simply not doing what we paid for him to come in and do

At this stage I just can't see things turning around for him

He needs the team to be moulded to his strengths and frankly we have too much building to do all over the pitch to focus that on the strengths of one guy

He needs to be sold (no doubt at a significant loss) and replaced

Levy and whoever else were involved in his signings (and many others since the Bale window) need to look at their mistakes, accept them and learn from them so that they're not repeated

From now on transfers need to be made to compliment what we already have and address areas where we lack - all designed to play to how the manager wants and to develop us as a unit

You only have to look at what Southampton have done in the transfer market for a fraction of the outlay to see where we have gone so badly wrong

Whether or not you think Saints can sustain their form it has to be acknowledged that they're a strong cohesive unit and all players are suited to the system and style the manager wants them to play and all work hard for each other

They're strong in the middle of the park, have width in attack and have strikers doing the business upfront

I couldn't imagine us creating 8 clear cut chances in a game at the moment let alone scoring 8 times. They were very unlcuky to lose to us and they've won a crazy amount of games either side of that (all despite being in transistion with so many incomings and outgoings plus a new manager - why are we unable to do the same? Largely because Levy and co have got the transfer dealings wrong)

 

[SpurSince57]

Agreed

He's a good player I think but not suited to our set up and simply not doing what we paid for him to come in and do

At this stage I just can't see things turning around for him

He needs the team to be moulded to his strengths and frankly we have too much building to do all over the pitch to focus that on the strengths of one guy

He needs to be sold (no doubt at a significant loss) and replaced

Levy and whoever else were involved in his signings (and many others since the Bale window) need to look at their mistakes, accept them and learn from them so that they're not repeated

From now on transfers need to be made to compliment what we already have and address areas where we lack - all designed to play to how the manager wants and to develop us as a unit

You only have to look at what Southampton have done in the transfer market for a fraction of the outlay to see where we have gone so badly wrong

Whether or not you think Saints can sustain their form it has to be acknowledged that they're a strong cohesive unit and all players are suited to the system and style the manager wants them to play and all work hard for each other

They're strong in the middle of the park, have width in attack and have strikers doing the business upfront

I couldn't imagine us creating 8 clear cut chances in a game at the moment let alone scoring 8 times. They were very unlcuky to lose to us and they've won a crazy amount of games either side of that (all despite being in transistion with so many incomings and outgoings plus a new manager - why are we unable to do the same? Largely because Levy and co have got the transfer dealings wrong)

It was clear from Jason Burt's puff-piece for Villas-Boas last year that Villa was the first choice, and when he blew us out Villas-Boas and Baldini settled on Soldado as Plan B. I really don't think Levy can be held too much to account on this one. I'm also of the opinion that Villa might have been no more successful than Soldado in the set-up Villas-Boas employed.

As for Soldado in the VdV role, what was it John McEnroe said to the umpire?

 

[Shea]

It was clear from Jason Burt's puff-piece for Villas-Boas last year that Villa was the first choice, and when he blew us out Villas-Boas and Baldini settled on Soldado as Plan B. I really don't think Levy can be held too much to account on this one. I'm also of the opinion that Villa might have been no more successful than Soldado in the set-up Villas-Boas employed.

As for Soldado in the VdV role, what was it John McEnroe said to the umpire?

Well I think between Levy, AVB and whoever else had input in the decisions for who we should sign before selling Bale that summer (perhaps Baldini or Sherwood) surely got in wrong when they identified the type of striker we needed (and of course the type of attacking midfielders required to create for them)

I'm sure some involved are no longer at the club but mistakes were clearly made and I think Levy has to shoulder some blame (not just over Soldado but over tranfsers made and those not made at key times stretching back to the Redknapp winter windows) and he and whoever else had involvement in our transfer mistakes have cost us badly and wasted a glorious window of opportunity for the club (one I'm not so sure will present itself again anytime soon)

 

[longtimespur]

Yeah, but 4-5-1 is also a 3 line formation. Not a great deal of difference between it and 4-4-2 when you think about it. Unless you're suggesting one or more mids drop back and take a DM role, in which case you might as well just consider it to be a 4-2-3-1 or 4-1-4-1. 4-5-1, with no players set up to do DM duties is designed to pack the midfield with more creativity and then have someone up front to finish things. But in doing so, players can get carried away and get too far forward and leave the back exposed.

Much like we do now then

 

[Mullers]

Well I think between Levy, AVB and whoever else had input in the decisions for who we should sign before selling Bale that summer (perhaps Baldini or Sherwood) surely got in wrong when they identified the type of striker we needed (and of course the type of attacking midfielders required to create for them)

I'm sure some involved are no longer at the club but mistakes were clearly made and I think Levy has to shoulder some blame (not just over Soldado but over tranfsers made and those not made at key times stretching back to the Redknapp winter windows) and he and whoever else had involvement in our transfer mistakes have cost us badly and wasted a glorious window of opportunity for the club (one I'm not so sure will present itself again anytime soon)

The earliest report I found of us being linked to Soldado is october 2011, when Redknapp was manager.
http://www.football.co.uk/tottenham..._soldado_rss1898215.shtml#ZCEBcK0si8LJ3BoW.97

Then we had a failed bid in 2012.
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/165494.html

Baldini and AVB were no where near the club in 2011 and 12. There is enough of a smoking gun there to suggest that Soldado was Levy's choice and whilst I wouldn't have expected Soldado to fail like he has done, the fact of the matter is he has failed and we paid 26 million for a 28 year old, something that we wouldn't have dreamed of doing before.
So Levy is the one who should shoulder the overwhelming amount of blame.

 

[Joeyboey]

I'd rather see Harry Kane as the 10.

Second striker Teddy Sheringham style.

 

[SpurSince57]

The earliest report I found of us being linked to Soldado is october 2011, when Redknapp was manager.
http://www.football.co.uk/tottenham..._soldado_rss1898215.shtml#ZCEBcK0si8LJ3BoW.97

Then we had a failed bid in 2012.
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/165494.html

Baldini and AVB were no where near the club in 2011 and 12. There is enough of a smoking gun there to suggest that Soldado was Levy's choice and whilst I wouldn't have expected Soldado to fail like he has done, the fact of the matter is he has failed and we paid 26 million for a 28 year old, something that we wouldn't have dreamed of doing before.
So Levy is the one who should shoulder the overwhelming amount of blame.

Of course, you will, as usual, disregard any evidence that demolishes your theory, in this case Jason Burt's very AVB-friendly Telegraph article of last December which clearly stated that Soldao was AVB's choice (presumably as Plan B after Villa turned us down). I've quoted you this article before; don't you remember how you amusingly, if preposterously, suggested that Levy could have negotiated Hulk's wages down?

You're also ignoring the fact that there is strong evidence that we actually paid only about £16m for Poor Bobby, a point that has been made by several posters on several threads.

 

[Mullers]

Of course, you will, as usual, disregard any evidence that demolishes your theory, in this case Jason Burt's very AVB-friendly Telegraph article of last December which clearly stated that Soldao was AVB's choice (presumably as Plan B after Villa turned us down). I've quoted you this article before; don't you remember how you amusingly, if preposterously, suggested that Levy could have negotiated Hulk's wages down?

No it does not say that, it just says that AVB was happy with the pursuit of Soldado not that it was his choice.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ger-Andre-Villas-Boas-had-become-distant.html
Levy may have said to him that it was possible to get Soldado and AVB just went along with it.

You're also ignoring the fact that there is strong evidence that we actually paid only about £16m for Poor Bobby, a point that has been made by several posters on several threads.

Is it a fact that we've only paid 16 million?

 

[Kendall]

Is it a fact that we've only paid 16 million?

He said that it is a fact that there is strong evidence.

50% of the time it works every time.