Ratings v Real Madrid

[dav3j]

Fuck off mate. Your an idiot.

Take off your Rose tinted glasses and actually watch the games

Plonkers, clearly WUMs. No one could be that stupid.

 

[kernowspur]

Modric had an ok game, not great but much better than Hudd. Hudd started badly, misplacing passes of the kind that have many on here cursing Jenas and Palacios and saying how useless they are, got better for a while and then faded badly. If he was not fully fit then he shouldn't have been playing, but IMO he is not as good as many on here seem to believe. Sandro was better than Hudd when he came on and at present should play in his place.

 

[MrWoolley]

Thought Dawson, Modric, Lennon and Bale were our best players last night.

 

[Real_madyidd]

Fuck off mate. Your an idiot.

Take off your Rose tinted glasses and actually watch the games

Your opinion is not worth more than anyone elses. You are in a very small minority of people that don't rate Modric, so I would suggest it it you with a vision problem.

Kindly take you own advice and do one.

 

[WhiteStripe]

Fuck off mate. Your an idiot.

Take off your Rose tinted glasses and actually watch the games

Is the standard response from someone who has no ability whatsoever to argue their point. It's like a template message on your mobile phone. Ctrl C Ctrl V. It means you never need to think about a post. It can fit for just about any situation too.

"I thought Jenas had a good game, he broke up the play and distributed the ball well"
"Fuck off mate. Your an idiot.

Take off your Rose tinted glasses and actually watch the games."

"I enjoy watching Dawson defend. He makes me feel comfortable and safe at the back"
"Fuck off mate. Your an idiot.

Take off your Rose tinted glasses and actually watch the games."

"Modric is one of the best players in the league. His use of the ball is exceptional"
"Fuck off mate. Your an idiot.

Take off your Rose tinted glasses and actually watch the games."

 

[stemark44]

I thought Corluka was really poor and I couldn't understand why Kaboul didn't replace him,especially when Lennon was withdrawn we had absolutely no pace on the right.

 

[lifeof...]

Ok, before I list my top six I want to make the point that this is only the Premier League, I'd want us to consider one of the following five a candidate, but I'd also look at several from over-seas. The other point is there are managers less proven but who might be very good, but who's record means they can't yet be considered at the same level as Harry.



1. Wenger - spends a lot on players wages, even if not on transfer fees. Has moulded three generations of first-class teams. Never not qualified for the CL, won the Premier League numerous times. Is the best team-builder in the business. They built a fucking stadium off the back of his teams success

2. SAF - Another DoF type manager like Wenger, not quite as good a talent spotter as Wenger, great motivator, only loses out to Wenger because his success has come off the back of a far larger budget than the frenchman's.

3= Dalglish and Ancelotti. Both have had tremendous success in the careers, they've won league titles with more than one club. Juries out slightly on each though, has Dalglish still got it? Ancelotti won a fair bit of his success in the era of match fixing in Italy.

5. David Moyes. Cut his teeth in the lower leagues with Preston where he enjoyed far more success than Redknapp did at the same stage of his career. According to wiki he spent his playing career preparing for management from his early twenties he was taking notes on the various managers he worked under and do his coaching badges. Joined Everton in 2002 since when he's made them the fifth most successful team in the Premier League. He's worked under very tricky conditions at time with no money to spend and his best players getting sold from underneath him. He's stayed loyal to his club and players.

6. Harry Redknapp

Of the above, when Harry goes, I'd like to see Moyes as one of the candidates to replace him.

Thats is just plan ludicrous, Whilst Wenger and SAF are with out doubt the best 2 mangers in the prem for a long time, they are hardly likely replacements, Dalgish, give me a break he hasn't managed in the prem for about 10 years, and after 5-6 games you rate him higher than Harry? Ancelotti? please tell me what has he actually achieved in the prem? with arguably one of the best squads in the prem, and a large cheque book?

Moyes, Seems a decent manager, but how on earth from his prem manager time can you justifiable feel he is conclusive better than Harry. Mr Jonny'O foreigner? Yeah likes that any guarantee.

Whilst harry here, we should be happy, If he goes to the England job, Mourhino would be my 1st choice, any one, like when H came, we will have to wait and see what they can do, rather than what we think they may do

 

[sloth]

Thats is just plan ludicrous, Whilst Wenger and SAF are with out doubt the best 2 mangers in the prem for a long time, they are hardly likely replacements, Dalgish, give me a break he hasn't managed in the prem for about 10 years, and after 5-6 games you rate him higher than Harry? Ancelotti? please tell me what has he actually achieved in the prem? with arguably one of the best squads in the prem, and a large cheque book?

Moyes, Seems a decent manager, but how on earth from his prem manager time can you justifiable feel he is conclusive better than Harry. Mr Jonny'O foreigner? Yeah likes that any guarantee.

Whilst harry here, we should be happy, If he goes to the England job, Mourhino would be my 1st choice, any one, like when H came, we will have to wait and see what they can do, rather than what we think they may do

Maybe I didn't word my reply very well? Anyway, I wasn't listing possible successors to Redknapp, but simply the five Premier League managers I think are superior to him. I wrote something like "I'd like one of the following five to be a candidate..." which is a bit confusing. And then later wrote "Of the above, when Harry goes, I'd like to see Moyes as one of the candidates to replace him." Which is a bit clearer.

Anyway I didn't mean to imply that I thought any of those other than Moyes would be a candidate. Just that Redknapp, imo, is the sixth best manager in the PL and that once Redknapp goes we need a top quality manager with aspirations to be with us long-term in order to move forward.

 

[phil]

Gallas was superb in my opinion. He won everything he needed to.

Dawson was fine defensively in the second half but in the first he was done for pace a few too many times. His distribution was as bad as I've seen it.

Spot on BBLG. How people here can rate Dawson's performance better than Gallas is a complete mystery to me. Gallas' performance last night was a defensive masterclass. Dawson (like Hudd) gave away possession too often. When you are playing against teams who retain possession like Real, you just cannot afford to give away possession. It must have been soul destroying for the midfield to chase around trying to get possession, only for Dawson to promptly give it right back to Real.

Gomes 4 - Awful

Corluka 6 - Defended well

Gallas 8 - MoM

Dawson 6 - Defended well in the second half

BAE 6.5 - O.k

Lennon 6.5 - Less involved as the game wore on

Hudd 5 - Poor

Modric 7 - Good but needed more support

Bale 7 - Double and triple marked

VdV 6 - Dropped too deep isolating Pav. Better when he went on the right.

Pav 6 - Should have done better with his opportunities

Defoe 6.5 - Lively and the team had better balance

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Ancelotti? please tell me what has he actually achieved in the prem? with arguably one of the best squads in the prem, and a large cheque book?

Moyes, Seems a decent manager, but how on earth from his prem manager time can you justifiable feel he is conclusive better than Harry.

Ancelloti won the league and FA Cup in his first season. Chelsea also became the first top flight side since Spurs in 1963 to score more than 100 goals in a season.

Is what Moyes has achieved so far any less impressive than what Redknapp had achieved before he came to us ?

 

[sloth]

Ancelloti won the league and FA Cup in his first season. Chelsea also became the first top flight side since Spurs in 1963 to score more than 100 goals in a season.

Is what Moyes has achieved so far any less impressive than what Redknapp had achieved before he came to us ?

It's in fact far more impressive than anything Redknapp achieved before us.

Just qualifying for CL with that Everton side with his budget was very impressive. Since Moyes took the helm and if looked at the entire period Everton have been the PL's 5th most successful club.

At Preston too he did a magnificent job. Redknapp on the other hand was at Bournemouth for something like 8 years and left them exactly as he found them, geting them promoted once, but then relegated again.

He's also got a track record of disloyalty and putting himself first which is why the fans of his former clubs by and large loathe him.

Compare that to Moyes and some of the shit he's put up with at Everton and yet he's stuck by them all these years.

 

[Coyboy]

Mate, I came into the match rating thread to post my ideas on the match, you on the other hand have yet to post a single thing about the match or indeed offered any thoughts on the match ratings. And you critices me for lack of relevance :shrug: ?

As for being tiresome, tedious or pathetic, I don't know, but I've noticed you like to come on here quite a bit, having a go at or targeting certain posters. That's a teeny bit boring too you know :up:

On your "not a bad level to be at" comment, you are quite right, Harry's shown himself to be a very good manager over the last couple of years. It's no easy task to qualify for the CL in this country, nor to beat the reigning Champions over two legs and then do the same to the Serie A leaders.

He's good, but he's not top class, he's nowhere near in the league of Arsene Wenger, SAF, Mourinho or a host of world-class managers. In our own league he's probably sixth best out of the current crop. He's reached his level and it's this one, is that good enough for us? I hope not.

The good news is he'll stick around for another year and then we'll have a shot at getting a team-builder, which is what a club like us really needs after the hugely positive shot in the arm Harry's given us.

I don't have time so I like to read what others thought of individual players and generally to get a snapshot, allowing for the brainless and the insane posts. It gets tiresome when you see this garbage though. And it is not relevant to the thread. You state this shit as if it's fact when all it is is your biased view.

Yeah it would be great if we could get at least SAF and Mourinho, it would also be great if we could move in to our very own Emirates tomorrow but wise the fuck up.

 

[Bruts]

Ok, before I list my top six I want to make the point that this is only the Premier League, I'd want us to consider one of the following five a candidate, but I'd also look at several from over-seas. The other point is there are managers less proven but who might be very good, but who's record means they can't yet be considered at the same level as Harry.



1. Wenger - spends a lot on players wages, even if not on transfer fees. Has moulded three generations of first-class teams. Never not qualified for the CL, won the Premier League numerous times. Is the best team-builder in the business. They built a fucking stadium off the back of his teams success

2. SAF - Another DoF type manager like Wenger, not quite as good a talent spotter as Wenger, great motivator, only loses out to Wenger because his success has come off the back of a far larger budget than the frenchman's.

3= Dalglish and Ancelotti. Both have had tremendous success in the careers, they've won league titles with more than one club. Juries out slightly on each though, has Dalglish still got it? Ancelotti won a fair bit of his success in the era of match fixing in Italy.

5. David Moyes. Cut his teeth in the lower leagues with Preston where he enjoyed far more success than Redknapp did at the same stage of his career. According to wiki he spent his playing career preparing for management from his early twenties he was taking notes on the various managers he worked under and do his coaching badges. Joined Everton in 2002 since when he's made them the fifth most successful team in the Premier League. He's worked under very tricky conditions at time with no money to spend and his best players getting sold from underneath him. He's stayed loyal to his club and players.

6. Harry Redknapp

Of the above, when Harry goes, I'd like to see Moyes as one of the candidates to replace him.

So you honestly think we could realistacally attract Arsene Wenger and SAF as our manager?!! :lol: As that was the question I asked you.

Is Moyes really an upgrade on 'Arry though? I know he has had little money to spend and done very well on a limited budget but im not convinced hes any better than Arry.

For what its worth I would like him to replace Arry when he goes, as he is a much more realistic target for a club like us.

Back on topic I think everyone played well under difficult circumstances.
Dawson and Gallas both 7's. And the other outfield players 6. Gomes 4.