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One singular goal? A couple of passes? What else has he produced?
Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele
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Monkey boy
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they listened to the transfer team of SC. I’ll admit my knowledge of players outside of even Tottenham is very limited as I just don’t watch footie anymore apart from our games. My love for the game has gone but I was very excited listening to the rave reviews he was getting before we signed him and all the comments of hell never sign for us now as he’s too big for us etc. Won’t be making that mistake again. The guy has been a disaster.
DanielJohnCosta
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because you contradict your own rules of when and who you can judge... honestly no idea how you can't see the hypocrisy of statements
spursfan77
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I’m not sure if it’s that but I suspect like with all these things there’s more to it than meets the eye.
Spurs_Bear
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LOL just me is it? This site is rife with it.
He passed the ball about last night as advertised after coming on in the last 15 and then having the space and time to do so in extra time. He should have been doing this all season and he hasn't.
What my expectation of Mourinho coming in, in November was/is and what I expected of our record signing in june/july to this point are obviously different to what you or anyone else expect.
For what was billed and expected of the player, he hasn't offered anything near enough for a decent return. I don't see that's an out of line view considering how everyone banged on about him being the number one target of our Summer window.
Spurrific
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While I don't agree with the humble pie bit, I do agree with hating our fanbase tbf
It's a frustrating time, both are under performing, there are huge doubts as to whether either will be successful with us, but we have to give them time before we write them off
I think they guy you're quoting is probably correct, you should apply the same logic to Ndombele as you do to Jose
Everlasting Seconds
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Oh great news. He managed 10 minutes and did a bit of tackling and stuff. So glad we brought him in for a record setting fee.
Spurs_Bear
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Yeah, we're all ****s. What's new.
Spurs_Bear
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I don't know if he will come good or the opposite but what I am sure of is blaming or insinuating its Mourhino's fault that Ndombele is not playing well just to suit an anti Jose agenda is not right .
If you don't like or rate Mourhino then that's fine we are all allowed an opinion . But to slant the facts to suit your anti Mourhino view is just plain dumb wrong and unfair .
By the way I did not want Jose but I am a Spurs fan and will give him all the support his track record deserves .
If you don't like or rate Mourhino then that's fine we are all allowed an opinion . But to slant the facts to suit your anti Mourhino view is just plain dumb wrong and unfair .
By the way I did not want Jose but I am a Spurs fan and will give him all the support his track record deserves .
gavspur
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Shhh, don’t mention any kind of Pie in this thread!
Haddock
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I'll grant you the favour of stating the obvious: one example of embarrassing behaviour doesn't neglect or exclude others.
0-Tibsy-0
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He may not have hit the heights that people believe his price indicates he should have done.
Because obviously the fee paid was his decision and negates any other outside effects and variables that can negatively influence a player...
I genuinely can't hide my exasperation if people cannot see he is superbly talented and one of our most technically gifted players that was playing a decent amount of football for the first 3 and a half months of this season.
I'm also immensely confused, to put it lightly, that there is a segment of fans who don't believe that fitness or mindset can be effected by factors outside someone's own drive or effort.
We have had Rose recently with mental illness, Lamela with persistent but invisible injuries and brothers horrific injury. And our ExPros like Caulker with severe issues in his personal life. Players like Palacios and Livermore who had absolute turmoil surrounding a brother and new born child respectively.
Who knows, might not be any issues and he is a lazy shit. But at the moment we don't know that. All we know is he is supremely talented and should be getting our support to live up to that aforementioned price tag he is being beaten with. He has shown he has the natural ability to do so.
Because obviously the fee paid was his decision and negates any other outside effects and variables that can negatively influence a player...
I genuinely can't hide my exasperation if people cannot see he is superbly talented and one of our most technically gifted players that was playing a decent amount of football for the first 3 and a half months of this season.
I'm also immensely confused, to put it lightly, that there is a segment of fans who don't believe that fitness or mindset can be effected by factors outside someone's own drive or effort.
We have had Rose recently with mental illness, Lamela with persistent but invisible injuries and brothers horrific injury. And our ExPros like Caulker with severe issues in his personal life. Players like Palacios and Livermore who had absolute turmoil surrounding a brother and new born child respectively.
Who knows, might not be any issues and he is a lazy shit. But at the moment we don't know that. All we know is he is supremely talented and should be getting our support to live up to that aforementioned price tag he is being beaten with. He has shown he has the natural ability to do so.
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I'll make sure to call him by his full name in future and hope that no one gets upset by it.
Ultimately both have shown or are known to have talent and neither are currently doing as well as expected
It's hard to quantify the statement about busting their balls, is it literally that Jose is trying much harder than Ndombele to achieve their and the clubs objectives? on the surface, it certainly looks that way, but it could equally be a result of their respective personalities/demeanour
Jose is very extrovert and passionate so it comes across (rightly or wrongly) that he is doing everything he can to make a success of it
(for the record, I firmly believe he is and I agree with you)
While Ndombele appears to be (in my eyes) more introverted and quiet, his running style and his generally appearance seems to look laid back and disinterested, I don't know enough about him to know whether or not this is actually the case or it just looks like he isn't trying or doesn't care
Jose has certainly made some statements that supports your opinion that Ndomeble isn't doing everything he could to be a success at the club, so again, for the record I am actually in agreement with you
That said.
I think by the same logic that despite all the frustration about Jose failing, so far, to make any tangible positive impact on the team, everyone should surely know that we need to give him the summer and time to sign players and work with his squad before we can judge him
We should also respect the fact that we need to do the same with Ndombele, I understand the frustration, I am as frustrated as the next person that he has failed so miserably to meet expectations so far. He is however, a very young kid, moving to a new league, new country, new team and team mates, into an unsettled team that is clearly not the best environment to hit the ground running.
He's already had a change of manager and several injury issues to deal with, I don't know to what extent he has settled, how well he speaks english, to what extent he is home sick etc etc
I just think that we as a fan base need to step back away from the justified frustration and give time for both Jose and Ndombele to bed in and show what they can do before we completely write either off
Jose has a great record so could well do great things with us, there are also doubts whether he is still relevant and or if he will be a good fit at our club...... it's too early to conclusively judge
Ndombele has already shown flashes of brilliance and clearly has the talent to be a success with us once he settles, there are also significant doubts about his fitness, attitude and whether he will be a success/good fit with us..... it's too early to conclusively judge
double0
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Stop right there.
It's very simple he needs to be playing game after game. I honestly can not understand Mourinho only playing Ndombele in certain moment during games ie when we're chasing, losing with 15-20 mins left that mindless action needs to stop. He should be starting games until then it's pretty unfair to judge cameos
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