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Player Watch: Serge Aurier

Phil_2.0

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The problem is our fans' expectations of a full-back. He's nowhere near as bad as people make out - it's just that so many have absolutely no clue what they're talking about, but have their uninformed opinions consolidated in an echo chamber of like-minded know-nothings. So people think they're spot on about Aurier being this terrible player when the simple reality is that he isn't.

I used to think the same as this but in reality he makes one unforced error that leads to a chance almost every game. Its stunning the regularity with how it happens, he gets caught on the ball way too much and his attacking performance since the league restarted has been wasteful at best.
 

swarvsta

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Jul 25, 2008
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Why is it that if people believe a player is not good enough, they are accused of being shit supporters?

For the betterment of our playing squad it is absolutely clear we need to improve in our full back areas. Aurier is a decent athlete and has reasonable technical ability but he can easily be upgraded upon. I can name you 15 better full backs in world football, and some of those would be attainable.

Why can’t we want us to look for a player to improve us?

On the flip side, he has shown great character during an awful time for him personally, and that should be applauded. He seems like a good guy, but he isn’t a great footballer.
 

Spurrific

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Jun 2, 2011
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Why is it that if people believe a player is not good enough, they are accused of being shit supporters?

For the betterment of our playing squad it is absolutely clear we need to improve in our full back areas. Aurier is a decent athlete and has reasonable technical ability but he can easily be upgraded upon. I can name you 15 better full backs in world football, and some of those would be attainable.

Why can’t we want us to look for a player to improve us?

On the flip side, he has shown great character during an awful time for him personally, and that should be applauded. He seems like a good guy, but he isn’t a great footballer.

Who's calling anybody a shit supporter? I'm saying the hatred and bollocks he gets is unjustified and is a continuation of the utter bollocks all of our full backs have to endure during their time with us. I have no issue with people not rating Aurier, but it's deluded in the extreme to think his replacement won't have the same basic criticism thrown at him (or her to be PC) when they start playing for us and dare to mistime a tackle.

Go ahead and name those attainable upgrades though, by all means, if that'll make you feel like a brilliant football fan (because everybody cares).
 

swarvsta

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Who's calling anybody a shit supporter? I'm saying the hatred and bollocks he gets is unjustified and is a continuation of the utter bollocks all of our full backs have to endure during their time with us. I have no issue with people not rating Aurier, but it's deluded in the extreme to think his replacement won't have the same basic criticism thrown at him (or her to be PC) when they start playing for us and dare to mistime a tackle.

Go ahead and name those attainable upgrades though, by all means, if that'll make you feel like a brilliant football fan (because everybody cares).

I wasn’t directing my post specifically at you. I just find the general leaping to defence of all players stance a little bit pathetic. They are paid a fortune to be the elite at what they do, they can accept criticism - and I doubt they need fans on a forum sticking up for them.

The fact you put “or her to be PC” about his replacement tells me all I need to know about you.

God forbid anyone might offend anyone with their nasty criticism.
 

Spurrific

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I used to think the same as this but in reality he makes one unforced error that leads to a chance almost every game. Its stunning the regularity with how it happens, he gets caught on the ball way too much and his attacking performance since the league restarted has been wasteful at best.

On the other side of this, I find he doesn’t get nearly enough credit when he has a good game. For some reason, with Aurier, people are far more eager to slate him after what they deem a poor game than they are to praise him after a good one


I wasn’t directing my post specifically at you. I just find the general leaping to defence of all players stance a little bit pathetic. They are paid a fortune to be the elite at what they do, they can accept criticism - and I doubt they need fans on a forum sticking up for them.

The fact you put “or her to be PC” about his replacement tells me all I need to know about you.

God forbid anyone might offend anyone with their nasty criticism.

I think the fact you took that bit in parenthesis seriously says a lot more about you than me, pal.
 

Spursmatty87

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Jul 7, 2016
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Weird thing to say but if he had a clue what position to put himself in when defending he’d be a good player. I just don’t understand how when a playing is in a defending position he still constantly on the wrong side of his man.
 

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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A word for him the last few games of the season. To play in that frame of mind right after a terrible family tragedy is simply incredible. He played fairly well too. So well done. Hope he gets time now to be with his family and work through the healing process.
 

McFlash

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Oct 19, 2005
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I don't really mind Aurier, in fact, I actually quite like him.
But then, I also like Winks and think he's a good little player.

Bite me!





Disclaimer - that doesn't necessarily mean that I don't want him upgraded, just that I don't think he's as bad as some (on here) make out.
 

wrd

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Aug 22, 2014
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I think he has his moments, at times he has great games and he's always been very professional in regards to the fact that he wanted to leave last summer but was one of those who actually got on with it to the best of his ability once the window closed which impressed me and of course more recently an unbelievable strength of character. With that being said I do think we're at the point where his value will be at it's peak and it's time to cash in. I think sometimes he looks like he's going to be an attacking force but it's too inconsistent to justify the defensive lapses in concentration. I think there is a lot of RB talent about at the moment where we could replace him with somebody with potential and get good value for Aurier which might be better in the long term for us.

If Aurier was consistently able to produce some of the attacking stuff he produces now and then then you'd forgive the defensive errors. Conversely his attacking output would be fine if he could cut out the defensive errors. I'd say he's shown a reasonable standard but I believe he's reached his ceiling and he won't improve on either and that's why I'd cash in. We're also forgetting he himself wanted to leave last summer so if he still feels that way then it's a no brainer.
 

knowlespurs

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The problem is our fans' expectations of a full-back. He's nowhere near as bad as people make out - it's just that so many have absolutely no clue what they're talking about, but have their uninformed opinions consolidated in an echo chamber of like-minded know-nothings. So people think they're spot on about Aurier being this terrible player when the simple reality is that he isn't.

I hope for his own sake he moves on to a club where the fans aren't such twats to him. Whoever we sign to replace him will get the same abuse as well. Walker did, Corluka did, Carr did (just less obviously because social media didn't exist), Tripper did. Our fans are never happy, but they're particularly discerning (read twattish) when it comes to full backs.
every time i have watched him live i think he is terrible, he is actually worse live than on the tele as you can see the gaps he leaves
 

razzmaster

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Jun 21, 2008
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I think Aurier suffers from very poor decision making at both ends of the pitch. Unfortunately I don't think this will change now.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Jan 9, 2014
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I like Aurier enough. He is not my favourite player, but he is not even close to half as bad as many fans argue. He does fairly OK in probably the hardest spot in the team in modern PL footie.
 

yido_number1

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Jun 8, 2004
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Right now we need at least one RB. The chances of us selling Aurier and signing two RB's is slim to none. With that in mind I'd keep him and try and sign someone that is better defensively to give us options. Same at LB I'd be working to sign an attacking full back to rotate with Davies.

Tanganga needs to get game time at CB and Sessegnon needs to be pushed further up the pitch.
 

soflapaul

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Aug 18, 2018
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The problem is our fans' expectations of a full-back. He's nowhere near as bad as people make out - it's just that so many have absolutely no clue what they're talking about, but have their uninformed opinions consolidated in an echo chamber of like-minded know-nothings. So people think they're spot on about Aurier being this terrible player when the simple reality is that he isn't.

I hope for his own sake he moves on to a club where the fans aren't such twats to him. Whoever we sign to replace him will get the same abuse as well. Walker did, Corluka did, Carr did (just less obviously because social media didn't exist), Tripper did. Our fans are never happy, but they're particularly discerning (read twattish) when it comes to full backs.

The problem with evaluating Aurier is that the positions about him can be so extreme. He has his liabilities - rash decision making, wrong side of the opposing forward, drifting in space, not recognizing when he is first man or when he should be closing space more quickly but these problems come in drips and drabs and are not something that he does every time there is an attack. It does happen too often though to be bad luck. Most importantly, these are all mental mistakes so if a coach thinks he can continue to grow on the mental side of the game, his upside is significant so he is a keeper in my mind. BUT, there needs to be an insurance policy of someone that can be put into the position and be trusted to make good decisions. An upgrade is a requirement if the coach doesn't think his mental growth will continue but it is an insurance policy in case it doesn't and it doesn't pay to operate without an insurance policy.
 
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