Player Watch: Serge Aurier

[LeParisien]

Sanchez definitely at fault there too. No need for him to dash on from RCB. That has to be Alderweireld’s zone to come if he wants. In fact Sanchez is most to blame then Aurier for not covering.

 

[spursfan77]

Thought this was a decent way to see the OG

What an utter mess.

The thing with Aurier is, he ain’t going anywhere until the summer. I think the biggest clue as to whether we will buy a competent alternative will be if KWP goes this window. Personally I don’t think Mourinho sees Foyth as a right back (quite rightly in my opinion) so he will be the only option if KWP moves on.

 

[Eric_s]

Don't move the goalposts, your initial argument was about Aurier not covering the player who was wide and I said he should have come across, look at the graphic he's the last man ffs lol

You bringing up Sanchez and Ndombele (I think) is a different argument altogether, besides Sanchez didn't cover himself in glory - I already said that but Aurier has to spot the danger quicker and move across.

My last reply, my point is the same. If Aurier rushed towards the centre attacker, the attacker on the right will have free passage towards the goal. So the mistake happened when our cm and cb got dragged out of position. Aurier was left with two Norwich forward to content with so he loses whichever choice he picked. To blame him for the goal is itself a joke.

 

[SugarRay]

Anyone blaming Aurier alone for the second Norwich goal simply hates him.

I think he’s entertaining. He often has me laughing my tits off. He’s the most inconsistent footballer I’ve ever seen, by miles. He can literally be top class and Sunday morning standard in the same game, often in the same half.

Clearly nowhere near reliable enough for a team that wants to stop conceding silly goals, and goals in general. It’s a shame for him though because he has talent, just never had the input required to make the most of that talent. Then again he might just be one of these players who is hard to coach. He will invariably just end up doing his own thing

 

[Shadydan]

My last reply, my point is the same. If Aurier rushed towards the centre attacker, the attacker on the right will have free passage towards the goal. So the mistake happened when our cm and cb got dragged out of position. Aurier was left with two Norwich forward to content with so he loses whichever choice he picked. To blame him for the goal is itself a joke.

Here we go again...let me ask you are you actually reading my posts or are you following this debate?

Look back, we're having a debate about Aurier's awareness or lack of not whether he should be blamed entirely for the goal - I already admitted that Sanchez didn't cover himself in glory. You said earlier and you said it again that had he came across he would have left the other player free and whilst that's true it would have been a more sensible as the other player was in a less dangerous position as opposed to Pukki, it's basic common sense.

Look at the graphic it couldn't have been illustrated any better, the wide player would have had to cross it or at best get a shot off at that angle which had far less chance of going in.

 

[Eric_s]

Here we go again...let me ask you are you actually reading my posts or are you following this debate?

Look back, we're having a debate about Aurier's awareness or lack of not whether he should be blamed entirely for the goal - I already admitted that Sanchez didn't cover himself in glory. You said earlier and you said it again that had he came across he would have left the other player free and whilst that's true it would have been a more sensible as the other player was in a less dangerous position as opposed to Pukki, it's basic common sense.

Look at the graphic it couldn't have been illustrated any better, the wide player would have had to cross it or at best get a shot off at that angle which had far less chance of going in.

If Aurier did as you suggested, rushing towards Pukki, the right player would have made a dash towards our goal. That attacker did not rushed towards our goal because Aurier was trying to keep himself in a position to close down Pukki or the right attacker for as long as possible. The fault does not lie with Aurier because your assumption that Pukki was more likely to score is simply not true in professional football. Anyone player with a free shot close to goal will have equally high chance of scoring. Hence I disagree with your insistent that Aurier should rushed towards Pukki right away.

 

[Shadydan]

If Aurier did as you suggested, rushing towards Pukki, the right player would have made a dash towards our goal. That attacker did not rushed towards our goal because Aurier was trying to keep himself in a position to close down Pukki or the right attacker for as long as possible. The fault does not lie with Aurier because your assumption that Pukki was more likely to score is simply not true in professional football. Anyone player with a free shot close to goal will have equally high chance of scoring. Hence I disagree with your insistent that Aurier should rushed towards Pukki right away.

wtf the assumption that Pukki was more likely to score is true because that's the area where the goal came from. Pause the graphic at 1 sec, that's the very moment when Aurier should have covered the centre, the other player was on the edge of the box - if he rushes in he rushes into a crowded area, if he keeps his position he's unmarked but he's wide of the goal - both options are more favorable than Pukki who was free in the danger area.

Your insistence on this is kinda funny considering that we conceded a goal in the danger area BECAUSE Pukki was unmarked, that doesn't happen if he wasn't free.

 

[Gassin's finest]

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The Tottenham defender isn’t terrible. In fact, he’s perhaps the best of a bad lot when it comes to Mourinho’s right-back options.

But there’s always something going on with Aurier. Sometimes he gets forward and creates, like he did at Middlesbrough on Sunday. Too often though, Aurier catches the eye for the wrong reason. Whether he’s caught out of position or ambling back towards it, the former PSG star is an exasperating presence in an infuriating defence.

Spurs should have replaced Kieran Trippier in the summer and had they done so, Aurier would almost certainly have been moved on too. Mourinho is hoping they right that wrong this month but he would be advised not to hold his breath. Daniel Levy, innit.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

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And to think we had Rose & Walker flying up & down the wings at one point

Oh how the mighty have fallen. Take your eye off the ball and look where we are!!

 

[VegasII]

Was Gilberto a LB or RB? He was trash.

Nethercott...i’m sure he was a RB.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Was Gilberto a LB or RB? He was trash.

Nethercott...i’m sure he was a RB.

LB and CB respectively

 

[VegasII]

LB and CB respectively

Thanks. They were respectively shite as well.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Thanks. They were respectively shite as well.

Yes.

I still see Nethercotts airshot, right in front of Le Tissier of all people, in my nightmares.

 

[slartibartfast]

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That photo of Phil Jones lol. Never gets old.

 

[VegasII]

Lol that Jesse Lingard aftershave!

It looks like something that should be advertised in men’s shop windows in soho.

 

[sausage]

And to think we had Rose & Walker flying up & down the wings at one point

Oh how the mighty have fallen. Take your eye off the ball and look where we are!!

There wasn't a huge amount of difference. For the most part, Rose and Aurier have some commonality in that they both play/played like reluctant defenders and are more enthusiastic going forwards.

Walker was better in defence, but there was a good reason why we (and also City) refer to him sometimes as Brainfart.

Real difference with Aurier is his personality - he's quite similar to Adebayor in that he has a strong personality and is quite expressive. Danny and Kyle were always been quiet and softly spoken, which I think kept them out of the firing line a bit more.

Interesting fact is that Aurier already has more goals for us than Walker. I'm pretty sure his goals/assists per 90 are far higher. I generally think that if he'd have been with us from a younger age then people would give him more slack.

 

[spursfan77]

And to think we had Rose & Walker flying up & down the wings at one point

Oh how the mighty have fallen. Take your eye off the ball and look where we are!!

It’s totally negligent we haven’t got a suitable right back in. Here we are in another window and all links to getting a new one seem to be drying up by the day.

 

[Montalbano]

Named in Africa's best 11 for 2019

 

[spursfan77]

I’m watching the Manchester derby tonight and walker and wan bissaka are so far ahead of him in ability it’s scary. How did we get ourselves into this position with Aurier.

 

[LeParisien]

Named in Africa's best 11 for 2019

Dearth of right backs on the continent ?

Why is Atal not there. PA 8282828