Player Watch Player Watch: Richarlison

[GetKaned]

Signs Perisic - Isnt this guy too old ?

Signs Forster - He isnt even good. We should have bought a younger keeper.

Signs Bissouma - We should have signed a creative mid first

Raphinha - Omg.. What about Kulusevski ?

Richarlison - Omg..He isnt worth the money. He is just barely better than Bergwijn



Some of you lot have very little hope of ever being happy in life

 

[YB123]

He's older than Bergwijn and 3 goals in 19 as a striker, even for Everton, isn't a particularly good goal return imo.

Again, I like him, and I do agree he's a massive upgrade on Lucas who is poor, but paying £60m for him (espeically when that's what we were supposed to be paying for the likes of Lautaro Martinez last summer) seems fairly excessive. If Conte has said he's the only one he wants then fuck it I obviously trust him, but otherwise I'd still like us to be looking elsewhere and spending some of this money on a better RWB than Spence or a top LCB.

We've got an estimated £150m to spend! Who cares! How much do you think a prem proven brazilian international is going to cost?!

 

[Tractorspur]

I don’t rate him at all but hope to be proven wrong

 

[Snarfalicious]

He's older than Bergwijn and 3 goals in 19 as a striker, even for Everton, isn't a particularly good goal return imo.

Again, I like him, and I do agree he's a massive upgrade on Lucas who is poor, but paying £60m for him (espeically when that's what we were supposed to be paying for the likes of Lautaro Martinez last summer) seems fairly excessive. If Conte has said he's the only one he wants then fuck it I obviously trust him, but otherwise I'd still like us to be looking elsewhere and spending some of this money on a better RWB than Spence or a top LCB.

He is older than Bergwijn by like 5 months. We're definitely paying the PL-experience rate in this one, no doubt about it. But, you know what you're getting, and there's value in that with Conte and really never knowing how long he's going to hang around. Would I prefer a guy like Martin Terrier? I don't know, maybe. He'd be cheaper, but you've also got to account for a potential adjustment period, he's a similar age and really the uncertainty of the transition from Ligue 1 to the PL.

I could have sworn there had been numerous comments about Richarlison's best stats come when he's playing on the left/out wide? If we are being completely honest, I think we all would assume he is coming in to mostly backup Son/Deki, as he's going to be taking the spot of Bergwijn. With how little Conte (rightly or wrongly) trusted our bench options, having Richarlison available to step in either through injury or substitutions is really, really important for us. Like I said previously, I still want to see an actual #9 type come in, because I agree Richarlison's probably able to step in much like how Son can, and while that's great, it tends to take away from the overall function of the side.

 

[jurgen11]

Signs Perisic - Isnt this guy too old ?

Signs Forster - He isnt even good. We should have bought a younger keeper.

Signs Bissouma - We should have signed a creative mid first

Raphinha - Omg.. What about Kulusevski ?

Richarlison - Omg..He isnt worth the money. He is just barely better than Bergwijn



Some of you lot have very little hope of ever being happy in life

sign them all - lets have a party

 

[rossdapep]

Bergwijn vs Richarlison

Trust SC to create a debate totally flawed debate. Flawed because Bergwijn simply doesn't want to be here.

That should be end of discussion

 

[hughy]

sign them all - lets have a party

Do we have to call it a work event?

 

[GetKaned]

When you explain to Conte Bergwijn has a better G+A per 90 than Richarlison

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Just looking at his basic stat comparison from last season alongside a few other attackers in the lower end of the table. Its clear that his defensive stats, ie work rate really shine (which we already knew). From watching him its not a great surprise to see his dispossession numbers, I've always thought that he looses the ball quite easily due to slightly poor balance which also effects his shooting. Ultimately I've never really been convinced by him and i don't think he will ever become top tier, in truth i never really wanted him here for reasons i have stated previously, but as a hard working bench option who can cover two positions i can get behind it as long as we also bring in another more technical attacker to compliment his skill set. A solid option who will work hard and put the required effort in where needed. He just needs to improve on his composure, ball retention and passing which should hopefully happen working under Conte in a fixed system.

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Agree with you I don't think he will be a top tier attacker but if hes playing alongside Kane/Son/Dejan any combination of the three I think his attacking stats will be far better. But for the here and now 60M is prob about the going rate for a player from the EPL, and if we want a tier one striker we could add 30-40M on the price. But we need to build a squad and I think on that basis hes good addition to the squad

 

[dtxspurs]

When you explain to Conte Bergwijn has a better G+A per 90 than Richarlison

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I wonder just how much the Leicester game alone skews that stat for Stevie.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Swap Bergwijn, Rodon and Winks and £10m for Richarlison..

 

[ralphs bald spot]

He is older than Bergwijn by like 5 months. We're definitely paying the PL-experience rate in this one, no doubt about it. But, you know what you're getting, and there's value in that with Conte and really never knowing how long he's going to hang around. Would I prefer a guy like Martin Terrier? I don't know, maybe. He'd be cheaper, but you've also got to account for a potential adjustment period, he's a similar age and really the uncertainty of the transition from Ligue 1 to the PL.

I could have sworn there had been numerous comments about Richarlison's best stats come when he's playing on the left/out wide? If we are being completely honest, I think we all would assume he is coming in to mostly backup Son/Deki, as he's going to be taking the spot of Bergwijn. With how little Conte (rightly or wrongly) trusted our bench options, having Richarlison available to step in either through injury or substitutions is really, really important for us. Like I said previously, I still want to see an actual #9 type come in, because I agree Richarlison's probably able to step in much like how Son can, and while that's great, it tends to take away from the overall function of the side.

he has played as Everton's main striker all season he is very able to play through the middle which he has done for Brazil he had an outstanding Olympics playing as a centre forward which they won - I think as he progresses as a player and in a better team he will be a centre forward he has some decent attributes strong quick reasonable in the air and offers the option of running in behind which none of our strikers do that well - I think the wide bits are a bonus he is coming in as cover across the line and not primarily as a wide player he also offers the option of playing with Kane centrally and he is centre forward who is still improving

 

[SaiboT]

Bergwijn can't cover for Kane.

Bergwijn does not want to be here.

Richarlison is only 5 months older than Bergwijn, and has 53 goals in 153 appearances for Everton. Bergwijn has 7 in 60 for Spurs.

Still bergwijn is one of the reason we playing champions league. Cameo against leicester, never forget lol
And how many games have bergwijn started compared to richy? 53 goals in 153 appearences is pretty avarage.

 

[GetKaned]

he has played as Everton's main striker all season he is very able to play through the middle which he has done for Brazil he had an outstanding Olympics playing as a centre forward which they won - I think as he progresses as a player and in a better team he will be a centre forward he has some decent attributes strong quick reasonable in the air and offers the option of running in behind which none of our strikers do that well - I think the wide bits are a bonus he is coming in as cover across the line and not primarily as a wide player he also offers the option of playing with Kane centrally and he is centre forward who is still improving

Its funny how people completely ignore the fact that he can improve leaps and bounds playing in a significantly better team and under one of the best coaches in world football.

 

[Hugh DeMann]

he has played as Everton's main striker all season he is very able to play through the middle which he has done for Brazil he had an outstanding Olympics playing as a centre forward which they won - I think as he progresses as a player and in a better team he will be a centre forward he has some decent attributes strong quick reasonable in the air and offers the option of running in behind which none of our strikers do that well - I think the wide bits are a bonus he is coming in as cover across the line and not primarily as a wide player he also offers the option of playing with Kane centrally and he is centre forward who is still improving

He also gets to train and play alongside Kane. Not a bad mentor to learn a few things off...

 

[wiggo24]

Signs Perisic - Isnt this guy too old ?

Signs Forster - He isnt even good. We should have bought a younger keeper.

Signs Bissouma - We should have signed a creative mid first

Raphinha - Omg.. What about Kulusevski ?

Richarlison - Omg..He isnt worth the money. He is just barely better than Bergwijn



Some of you lot have very little hope of ever being happy in life

Love the Perisic, Bissouma, Forster signings and would have had similar-ish concerns about Raphinha or Richarlison for the prices being bandied about. There's no obligation to think a signing is perfect just because Spurs are signing them! When we were first linked many of the people now extoling Richarlison's virtues were agreeing they would prefer other options!

 

[wiggo24]

When you explain to Conte Bergwijn has a better G+A per 90 than Richarlison

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Again, don't think anyone is suggesting we should keep Bergwijn or that he's the better player! The guy clearly wants to leave and Richarlison is an upgrade - my opinion on how much of an upgrade he is is clearly controversial but am certainly not denying what most people in this thread are saying about their comparative qualities.

 

[Scouseyid]

Listen, I'm no fan of Richarlison. But can we stop this "he's not as good or better then Bergwijn" bullshit!!!

The mind boggles.

 

[jurgen11]

Bergwyn is a bit underwhelming IMHO - said it before , he scuffed the shot for goal of the season, post put it in

 

[Bulletspur]

Dont give a fck what we are paying. Knowing Levy I know it wont be a sum that sees us broke anytime soon, so what do we care if its 40/50/60m.
We should just be happy if we have another option upfront that has the ability to add goals and assists on a regular basis.

As long as we get all the targets Conte wants, I genuinely couldn't care less how much they cost and find it odd so many do

Spend years not signing a long term solution up front. Get linked to a premier league proven centre forward who ticks all the right boxes. People complain its too expensive

I wish I could give each of you many winner ratings!