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Player Watch: Juan Foyth

GioW

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Still think we should sign Aarons, sell Trippier, Keep Aurier and sell him in Jan to china after his 4th hamstring injury, he has too many muscular problems you can tell he's just going to suffer from constant muscular injuries. Then you can have Foyth/Aarons contesting but keep Aurier as a safety for first 6 months.

I'd agree but Aaron's will be a no go with Norwich up.
 

Strikeb4ck

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Sissoko was pretty much playing RB a good chunk of this season with all the covering he had to do for Trippier. It's a bit of a risk, but if we sell Trippier and don't replace, I'm not overly pessimistic on going into next season with Aurier, Foyth, KWP, and Sissoko as options at RB/RWB.

Glad that Foyth is having a good tournament. He was really impressive today.
 

arunspurs

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Foyth had a good game but he was beaten 1v1 atleast twice today, by him getting squared on.
He will be a work in progress at RB for us.
 

daryl hannah

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Still think we should sign Aarons, sell Trippier, Keep Aurier and sell him in Jan to china after his 4th hamstring injury, he has too many muscular problems you can tell he's just going to suffer from constant muscular injuries. Then you can have Foyth/Aarons contesting but keep Aurier as a safety for first 6 months.
This sounds awesome. Next year look to poach Lewis (Norwich LB) too and you'd have Sess and Lewis competing.

Edit: Not to mention the unknown quantity that is Steven Sessegnon as RB no.3

Edit 2: Also, next year go all out for Pavard.
 
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George94

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Sissoko was pretty much playing RB a good chunk of this season with all the covering he had to do for Trippier. It's a bit of a risk, but if we sell Trippier and don't replace, I'm not overly pessimistic on going into next season with Aurier, Foyth, KWP, and Sissoko as options at RB/RWB.

Glad that Foyth is having a good tournament. He was really impressive today.

Our formations under Poch are very fluid, so it’s possible with Foyth at RB, he could take up more of a 3rd centre-back position when we have the ball, allowing us to go back to a 3-4-3.

Going full football manager here but maybe it could work...or maybe not ?
 

jolegend

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Not a right back for me. Potential to be a very good centre back. Can cover at right back if desperate.

Liverpool full backs set the example and that’s what we need to aspire too.
 

S17PUR

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Sissoko was pretty much playing RB a good chunk of this season with all the covering he had to do for Trippier. It's a bit of a risk, but if we sell Trippier and don't replace, I'm not overly pessimistic on going into next season with Aurier, Foyth, KWP, and Sissoko as options at RB/RWB.

Glad that Foyth is having a good tournament. He was really impressive today.
Sissoko definitely does not have good enough technique to play at right back or right wing back. Full backs are so integral to our system, I'd be very disappointed if we didn't upgrade in that area in one way or another this summer.
 

freeeki

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At RB tonight:

90 Minutes Played
95% Pass Accuracy
19 Accurate Passes
7 Duels Won
3 Ball Recoveries
5 Tackles Won
5 Clearances
 

arunspurs

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Those are AWB-esque stats

It is a bit misleading though. He had to put so many tackles because he got squared on, lost the 1v1 and had to muscle his way back and make a tackle inside the box.

Whats good is, he did his job, helped get a cleansheet. But there is long way to go for him to be a starting RB (defensively) for us. He has to improve his 1v1 defending
 

spids

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...he got squared on, lost the 1v1 and had to muscle his way back and make a tackle inside the box.

That sounds like he won the 1v1?

Away at Man City in the league he was very good at RB against Sterling who had terrorised Trippier a few days earlier in the CL.
 

arunspurs

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That sounds like he won the 1v1?

Away at Man City in the league he was very good at RB against Sterling who had terrorised Trippier a few days earlier in the CL.

No he didnt, atleast 2 times he was beaten & completely lost his man. Only the opponent messed up the chance
 

spids

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No he didnt, atleast 2 times he was beaten & completely lost his man. Only the opponent messed up the chance

... because Foyth recovered and tackled them? Which is what you originally intimated. I didn’t see the game so am relying on your description.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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I don't like the idea of Foyth at RB. Centre backs very rarely look comfortable there. He's not slow but he's just not explosive enough and in his albeit limited appearances there so far hasn't shown he can whip a quality cross in and beat a man. His defending seemed good though so as a defensive option he could be somewhat useful.

If you ask me, his perfect position would be a right sided centre back in a 3. Don't think he should be anything else but injury cover at RB.
I think i'd actually be more comfortable with Sissoko there tbh. But he would need a lot of practice with the defensive drills as it wouldn't be natural for him at first.

But he can defend well one on one, has the strength and speed to worry an opposing full back and is a team player. My only concern would be a final ball but at least he would probably get himself away from shooting positions at RB.
Spot on mate, we need to get back to what made us really effective in 15/16 and 16/17, dynamic pacey fullbacks who stretch teams and create space for our creative players.
We shouldn't be looking at players who can 'do a job' there. It's a key position in Poch's system and we need a new first choice specialist right back as a priority
Not a right back for me. Potential to be a very good centre back. Can cover at right back if desperate.

Liverpool full backs set the example and that’s what we need to aspire too.


Without wanting to sound like a complete **** (genuinely not my intention) but maybe, just maybe, it's worth having a little bit of faith in the decisions of the manager that we pretty much all see as the most important member of our club?

When we get ITK about a player, everyone is quick enough to scream "I hope that **** Levy actually listens to Poch & gives him what he wants" but, as soon as you get a bit of ITK about something you doubt, the backing of Poch's desires seems to be conveniently be cast aside.

You either trust him, back him and want him to stay, or you don't.
 

arunspurs

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... because Foyth recovered and tackled them? Which is what you originally intimated. I didn’t see the game so am relying on your description.

Ok...let me be clear
Foyth got squared on numerous times from standing start. Most times he recovered. Of those, atleast 2 times he had to put last ditch tackle, both went to VAR check. Of those 2 VAR check,once he was lucky. Another day another VAR referee, it could have been a penalty.
And besides this, 2 other time, he completely lost his man 1v1 - went past him like he was not there. Both times, attacker lost his composure and didnt take the chance.

I am not completely writing off Foyth t RB. Just saying there is a clear area of improvement - which is standing start 1v1 defending.
 

spids

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Ok...let me be clear
Foyth got squared on numerous times from standing start. Most times he recovered. Of those, atleast 2 times he had to put last ditch tackle, both went to VAR check. Of those 2 VAR check,once he was lucky. Another day another VAR referee, it could have been a penalty.
And besides this, 2 other time, he completely lost his man 1v1 - went past him like he was not there. Both times, attacker lost his composure and didnt take the chance.

I am not completely writing off Foyth t RB. Just saying there is a clear area of improvement - which is standing start 1v1 defending.

Thanks for the clarification ?
 
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