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13VanDerBale13

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Even if that is the case, he's away with Argentina and injuries happen. I'm not a fan of this blaming Poch for injuries agenda, we don't know what happens behind the scenes it's all speculative and I'm pretty sure with the technology available these days that our fitness teams would be aware of prime levels of what players can get pushed to. Tweaks and strains happen, it's sport not office work.

Why is it we seem to get so many injuries tho ? & N'Dombele gets an injury in training, If we rarely got injuries i would understand that 'these things happen' but with Spurs it seems to happen far too often & it needs to be addressed
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Surely Poch talking about his fitness is just a case of him keeping the pressure off about selection.

It’s absolutely ridiculous that people are doubting Poch’s judgement on this. The guy has been involved in football for about 40 years of his life ffs
 

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I have never heard such rubbish in that the hard training schedule is the reason for injuries when anybody who has played any sport will tell you that the fitter you are the less likely you are to be injured .
In my eyes we are just so unlucky its not true that the training is the reason as most of our injuries are impact knocks etc .
The less fit you are the more likely you are to have groin and other muscle strains .
 

Shadydan

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This is just typical fan paranoia made even worse due to the intl break, you're that bored there's no football on so nothing to talk about so you have to make up some twisted narrative and think the worst, have a break and go outside until next weekend. :LOL:
 

Hakkz

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I can remember Wayne Rooney agitating for a move and saying that his relationship with Fergie had reached an "irretrievable breakdown". Ferguson convinced him to stay and got him to sign a new contract.

Don't compare us to Utd under Ferguson.. It's such a massive difference in terms of what the clubs could/can offer.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Why is it we seem to get so many injuries tho ? & N'Dombele gets an injury in training, If we rarely got injuries i would understand that 'these things happen' but with Spurs it seems to happen far too often & it needs to be addressed

Man U got more injuries than us last year but I haven't seen anyone blaming Mourinho or Ole for it. Injuries happen mate, it's a part of the game and a huge reason why these days a 25 man squad is required.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Why is it we seem to get so many injuries tho ? & N'Dombele gets an injury in training, If we rarely got injuries i would understand that 'these things happen' but with Spurs it seems to happen far too often & it needs to be addressed

Would you prefer they run less and we go back to being a top 10 team? Ultimately we keep getting top 4 so regardless of injuries that's the most important thing for the growth of our club. Injuries are part and parcel of the game it's how it goes
 

JCRD

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I despise international breaks, fuckin hate them.

My view is at the end of the season - play the intl fixtures in a month or five weeks. The season will still be the same length but at least you have that continuity in a season etc. It would also be better for intl football as the managers and coaching staff have a month of interrupted sessions and games.
 

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I despise international breaks, fuckin hate them.

My view is at the end of the season - play the intl fixtures in a month or five weeks. The season will still be the same length but at least you have that continuity in a season etc. It would also be better for intl football as the managers and coaching staff have a month of interrupted sessions and games.

When would the players get a proper break? What happens every other year when there is an international tournament?
 

hughy

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International breaks are fine. Way too much is made of them. A 2 week break doesn't disrupt the Premier league too much, and gives the players who aren't selected for their national teams a short break.
 

JCRD

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When would the players get a proper break? What happens every other year when there is an international tournament?
Yeah that seems a good idea, give the players no break at all, should be a good thing for cutting down injuries;)

But isnt it exactly the same - the same number of PL games? youre cutting down the PL season by a month because youre cutting our the intl 'breaks' then at the end of the PL season which would finish a month early you then have the intl games in a month and still finish potentially by end of May or even mid June - which is essentially what happens now anyways.

The advantage is an uninterrupted season of club football. you also limit potential injuries outside of club football.
 

JCRD

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International breaks are fine. Way too much is made of them. A 2 week break doesn't disrupt the Premier league too much, and gives the players who aren't selected for their national teams a short break.

To be honest whilst I hate them, it has come at a good time for us so our players can reset from the furore of off the pitch stuff
 

BringBack_leGin

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I despise international breaks, fuckin hate them.

My view is at the end of the season - play the intl fixtures in a month or five weeks. The season will still be the same length but at least you have that continuity in a season etc. It would also be better for intl football as the managers and coaching staff have a month of interrupted sessions and games.
When would the players get a proper break? What happens every other year when there is an international tournament?
Yeah that seems a good idea, give the players no break at all, should be a good thing for cutting down injuries;)

Except that by not having 4 lots (let’s say) of two week breaks, surely the season would end 8 weeks soon and the players would probably be able to play those 8 matches in the space of a five weeks anyway, so would therefore have three weeks longer summer break. It’s actually a very good idea in terms of protecting players.

However, if fucking hate having such a long summer without Spurs.
 

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If you want a National team to follow, International breaks at various times throughout the season have to be a given.

I for one enjoy the World Cup and Euro's. Helps my summer along lovely in close season.
 

spids

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But isnt it exactly the same - the same number of PL games? youre cutting down the PL season by a month because youre cutting our the intl 'breaks' then at the end of the PL season which would finish a month early you then have the intl games in a month and still finish potentially by end of May or even mid June - which is essentially what happens now anyways.

The advantage is an uninterrupted season of club football. you also limit potential injuries outside of club football.

I would rather they reduce the EPL size to 18 teams instead of 20. And then have that throughout the football league with 5 divisions of 18 teams (90 in total), with the bottom two divisions being a North and South to make travel / support / expenses etc. all easier.

Premier League
Championship
League 1
League 2 (S)
League 2 (N)
-------
Conference (S)
Conference (N)

Then in international football have tiered competitions with promotion and relegation at the end of each qualifying cycle. i.e:

Europe Top Tier: England, Germany, Italy, France, Holland etc.
Europe Second Tier: Andorra, Luxembourg, Gibraltar etc.

Relegation / Promotion for the bottom and top teams respectively for the next qualifying cycle, with summer tournaments for both. It would actually give a lot of countries a chance to win some games and qualify for a summer tournament when they normally are whipping boys. It would also mean International qualification would involve smaller groups of say three teams and thus 4-6 less international games per qualifying cycle, and each game being meaningful.

All of the above would reduce the number of games an international premiership player would play by 6-7 games per season. Internationals would be better matched and mean something. Players would be fresher for international tournaments as the seasons would be less gruelling.
 

JCRD

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Except that by not having 4 lots (let’s say) of two week breaks, surely the season would end 8 weeks soon and the players would probably be able to play those 8 matches in the space of a five weeks anyway, so would therefore have three weeks longer summer break. It’s actually a very good idea in terms of protecting players.

However, if fucking hate having such a long summer without Spurs.

You explained it better...

Ofcourse it's a good idea... I raised it... I'm full of em
 

dtxspurs

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I want to see some games where he, Eriksen & Ndombele are all on the field together. Was really hoping Palace would be that game.
 

mike_l

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You explained it better...

Ofcourse it's a good idea... I raised it... I'm full of em
I've often thought it would be a good idea, for both clubs and national teams. I think it'd generate more interest in internationals as it wouldn't be an annoying interruption to the season, and would also allow them to develop more fluid performances due to more time uninterrupted playing and training together.
 
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