Player Watch Player Watch: Giovani Lo Celso

[Timberwolf]

Nice one, so more physicality which is something people often throw shade at Eriksen as 'not having' that's cool.

Ability to break the lines? If so I can see why those who have watched him would crave him being here.

Thanks for the response, appreciated.

Yeah he can definitely break the lines, but it's a little odd as he really isn't that quick and doesn't look like he should be able to. This is the one area of his game that I'm a little worried won't translate quite so well to the premier league but fingers crossed.

 

[Stoof]

It does and it is.

Agreed. See Manchester United and Maguire.

 

[wrd]

This doesn't happen to other clubs. If this was the case, the entire transfer window would be a mess.

We got Ndombele around the same time United got AWB and before City got rodri, Arsenal only wrapped up Pepe on Wednesday and Maguire is still going, what other prem clubs have done big business besides that? It's affecting everybody, we I would argue got the biggest deal done the earliest.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

There hasn't been that much tier 1 business in the EPL so far this summer.

 

[JB_Spurs]

PSG watched him play and got rid of him.

And then tried to bring him back.

 

[Timberwolf]

We got Ndombele around the same time United got AWB and before City got rodri, Arsenal only wrapped up Pepe on Wednesday and Maguire is still going, what other prem clubs have done big business besides that? It's affecting everybody, we I would argue got the biggest deal done the earliest.

I think this is key.

With our lack of central midfielders Ndombele was the one absolutely essential signing. We managed to get the best player available at a very reasonable price in the position where we were weakest. Levy deserves a lot of credit for that one and a lot of people seem to have already forgotten quite what a coup the deal was.

While we really should sign a Fernandes or a Lo Celso, if we don't sign either and hang onto Eriksen for another year we'll probably be fine for top 4 - it would be just be disappointing and we likely won't push on.

Without Ndombele, however, we'd truly be going backwards and the transfer window would be the genuine disaster some are making out.

 

[CrouchPotato]

PSG watched him play and got rid of him.

I mean spurs watched Bale play and still nearly sold him to Birmingham.

 

[Nanky_1988]

PSG watched him play and got rid of him.

They also got rid of Moura and he isn’t too bad is he!!

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Nice one, so more physicality which is something people often throw shade at Eriksen as 'not having' that's cool.

Ability to break the lines? If so I can see why those who have watched him would crave him being here.

Thanks for the response, appreciated.

The most important quality we’d lose if Eriksen goes is the one least often mentioned; his brilliant vision, in the sense that he has an almost instantaneous appreciation of the positions of the other players, on both sides, and where they seem most likely to move in the next fraction of a second.

That’s why any of the other names mooted as replacements will change the way we play, unless I severely under-rate them and they can replicate Eriksen’s speed of thought.

I’ve seen GLC beat a man in a way Eriksen doesn’t, but I’m not certain he can see a pass before any of his markers or opposing defenders, in the way Eriksen does.

I’d love to see him join us but I don’t automatically expect him to be the direct replacement many others see him as. I think we’d have to change our play to get the best from him, and from the rest of them. And this difference and the change it would require may be why were reluctant to go overboard on what we’re prepared to pay.

But because we may well lose Eriksen, if GLC is our best alternative, we have to go balls-out to get him. Or to keep Eriksen on an extended deal. I’d be equally happy with either. Both would be perfect though.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Could really do with one of our ITK heavyweights dropping in with some updates. I’m bored shitless and may have to turn to opium or housework as distraction

 

[Deleted member 27995]

The most important quality we’d lose if Eriksen goes is the one least often mentioned; his brilliant vision, in the sense that he has an almost instantaneous appreciation of the positions of the other players, on both sides, and where they seem most likely to move in the next fraction of a second.

That’s why any of the other names mooted as replacements will change the way we play, unless I severely under-rate them and they can replicate Eriksen’s speed of thought.

I’ve seen GLC beat a man in a way Eriksen doesn’t, but I’m not certain he can see a pass before any of his markers or opposing defenders, in the way Eriksen does.

I’d love to see him join us but I don’t automatically expect him to be the direct replacement many others see him as. I think we’d have to change our play to get the best from him, and from the rest of them. And this difference and the change it would require may be why were reluctant to go overboard on what we’re prepared to pay.

But because we may well lose Eriksen, if GLC is our best alternative, we have to go balls-out to get him. Or to keep Eriksen on an extended deal. I’d be equally happy with either. Both would be perfect though.

Feels the same as when we ended up losing Carrick (I know they are different) but you don't always truly appreciate a footballer (being the key word here) until they leave/you lose them. I've been critical of Eriksen, but replacing what he has brought to this team especially in the last three seasons will probably be immeasurably hard to do.

Great post by the way.

 

[piedpiper]

It does and it is.

So you saying that clubs agree a price then suddenly the selling club changes the price... Then there never was an agreement in the 1st place. Incidentally do we also do this? Did we do it with Bale? Dembele? Trippier? Berbatov? Modric? Sandro?

Can you not see how ridiculous that sounds. You agree a price then sign on it.

I understand negotiations and there is a offer a rejection or acceptance or a counter proposal. But the BS of a agreeing a price and then the other party renegeing on the deal and twice. Then why pray do you still go back a 3rd time. You move on to another target. If they moved the goal posts twice what's to say it won't happen a 3rd time.

 

[wrd]

So you saying that clubs agree a price then suddenly the selling club changes the price... Then there never was an agreement in the 1st place. Incidentally do we also do this? Did we do it with Bale? Dembele? Trippier? Berbatov? Modric? Sandro?

Can you not see how ridiculous that sounds. You agree a price then sign on it.

I understand negotiations and there is a offer a rejection or acceptance or a counter proposal. But the BS of a agreeing a price and then the other party renegeing on the deal and twice. Then why pray do you still go back a 3rd time. You move on to another target. If they moved the goal posts twice what's to say it won't happen a 3rd time.

So your suggestion of backing Poch is to move onto a target he doesn't want?

 

[piedpiper]

Agreed. See Manchester United and Maguire.

Did Leicester agree a price and move the goal posts? or did you all believe what newspapers/media houses reported as the price. What you had was a offer which was rejected they haggled on pricing. Leicester never budged on their price and united relented and paid the price Leicester wanted.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Could really do with one of our ITK heavyweights dropping in with some updates. I’m bored shitless and may have to turn to opium or housework as distraction

Ask and you shall receive. Madame Dubois at the House of Blue Lights Opium Sanctuary will have to wait a bit longer

 

[piedpiper]

So your suggestion of backing Poch is to move onto a target he doesn't want?

No you report to the manager that we can't get to an agreement on price the selling club is being unreasonable and get the next option.

 

[Spurrific]

PSG watched him play and got rid of him.

This is the definition of a “yer da” comment.

 

[wrd]

No you report to the manager that we can't get to an agreement on price the selling club is being unreasonable and get the next option.

And he's shown time and time again he doesn't want the next option and is telling Levy he has to get Option A or nothing, so as I say your suggestion of backing the manager is the complete opposite of what he wants.

 

[Lighty64]

This all feels too similar to previous windows. I really feel like we will end up signing no-one else at this this point. It’s just the same old stories of us valuing players far less than their clubs.

similar?

apart from last season when we signed no one, most of our deals are usually around deadline day. just asking cause none of know the exact amount we have to spend, but what if Lyon had stuck to their original amount and it meant we could of only gone with our total other amount. we signed the improved deal with AIA after signing TN. we had record profits, we made the CL final, but we also lost a lot of income with the stadium delays, and last season ITK was saying with player sales we where only looking at around 35m net.

we have still only sold 1 player this season and if Fulham want more for Sess with players included, and Betis want more, even with instalments, and now we also have to consider Fernandez into the equation in case Eriksen might go, and if he goes late we might have to accept a lot less.

the way so many of you whinge you would think we have an open cheque book

 

[piedpiper]

And he's shown time and time again he doesn't want the next option and is telling Levy he has to get Option A or nothing, so as I say your suggestion of backing the manager is the complete opposite of what he wants.

You assuming that is Poch's stance. Yes it's been reported that many ITK, Hoddle, Graham Robert's all said there was money available... Can you not see who they are connected too (get their info from) ? The club.

If your reasoning is correct then we have nothing to fear as Poch won't walk because he was intransigent/ inflexible to other options.

It's totally stupid to ONLY have one option from the outset.