Player watch: Danny Rose

[dontcallme]

Rose was the type of signing that he went onto criticise.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

All valid points, but when you're one or two players away from becoming a trophy winning side would we be better off buying another lesser known player, or pushing the boat out for an established star who could be the final missing piece of the puzzle?

Point is that it wouldn’t have gone down well with any of his colleagues at that point, particularly given that nobody would’ve known who the hell he was when he joined either.

 

[nailsy]

Point is that it wouldn’t have gone down well with any of his colleagues at that point, particularly given that nobody would’ve known who the hell he was when he joined either.

I agree with the first bit, he could have said that we needed to sign more established players without having a dig at his team mates, but that doesn't mean that he didn't have a point about the type of players we were looking at. It's all ancient history now though and I don't think we even had the money at the time to go for the players that he would've liked to us to sign anyway.

Rose was the type of signing that he went onto criticise.

I'm not sure about that. Buying a seventeen year old to go into your youth academy is a bit different from buying a first squad player that you're hoping will help you win a trophy.

 

[dontcallme]

I agree with the first bit, he could have said that we needed to sign more established players without having a dig at his team mates, but that doesn't mean that he didn't have a point about the type of players we were looking at. It's all ancient history now though and I don't think we even had the money at the time to go for the players that he would've liked to us to sign anyway.



I'm not sure about that. Buying a seventeen year old to go into your youth academy is a bit different from buying a first squad player that you're hoping will help you win a trophy.

Nope, he complained about having to Google the names of our targets. We’d a lot of success at that time buying relatively unknown players and developing them.

I don’t have the same problem with Rose that some do but I’d have thought he’d respect a club with the buying and developing strategy that he himself had benefited from.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

that doesn't mean that he didn't have a point about the type of players we were looking at.

Perhaps, but leagues have been won by clubs on unearthing and developing the best talent.

Either way, criticising your employers that publicly, employers without whom you’d most like be a relative nobody, is worthy of far worse consequence than the club actually gave him. Since that first interview (with a couple more cases since) he’s still made a tidy £10m, £12m by this seasons end.

No sympathy from me

 

[C0YS]

He just needs to go and play somewhere otherwise he’ll look back in ten years time and realise that he wasted the best part of four seasons, personal issues or not someone needs to remind him how lucky he is to be as good as he is to play top level sport.
Still think it goes all the way back to us selling Walker, it was almost like he was jealous that he didn’t get the move instead.

It's his prerogative to stay if he chooses to. He's 30 and he is only likely to have a few contracts left in him, none likely to be close to as good as what we are offering him. He is absolutely justified into maximising his finances at this point in his career.


Also, Rose hasn't wasted 4 years, that's very harsh on him. In 2018 he got a serious injury that kept him out for pretty much a season (293 days out). He never recovered from that in terms of performances, he likely never will, and there is nothing particularly remarkable about the impact of such an injury. He came back halfway through the 2017/2018 season. Post-injury he still played, even performed well on occasion, he played 37 games in 2018/2019 in rotation, which btw is the most games he has ever played in a season. So it's only 2019/2020 where he was really frozen out, and even then, he was loaned out to Newcastle and played a few times under Poch. In the end, he made 29 appearances that season, which isn't a lot but considering that Danny Rose has always been incredibly injury-prone (never managed more than 28 league appearances of 37 in all competitions) is actually a decent, in fact, normal tally for him. He's only really wasted this season.

In terms of him being difficult, I think selling Walker obviously had an impact, and he was known to like a little moan but never publically came out with stuff until that time. I think there are a lot of things going on though. It's worth noting at the time he made those comments, he was injured, and probably very frustrated, but his comments displayed a belief, at that time (pre-injury) justified, that he could play somewhere else and earn more money, and maybe he did feel that an outburst could somehow help him? I mean if he was a player we were desperate to keep happy it might work as a negotiation tactic, or drum up the interest of the Manchester clubs? Maybe lower his price?

I'm not sure it was that well thought out though, I think he was just injured and frustrated. Ultimately, it was the wrong time for any of this to work, he was injured and he should have been focusing on rehabilitation and trying to get back into the team. Because he wasn't able to regain his form, and that's what really cost him. If he came back, found his form, no one would care about what he said years ago.

 

[aRTy]

Nope, he complained about having to Google the names of our targets. We’d a lot of success at that time buying relatively unknown players and developing them.

I don’t have the same problem with Rose that some do but I’d have thought he’d respect a club with the buying and developing strategy that he himself had benefited from.

Which i find funny as i imagine the players we've bought for high pricess like Ndombele, wouldn't have heard of him and would need to do the googling themselves.

 

[nailsy]

Which i find funny as i imagine the players we've bought for high pricess like Ndombele, wouldn't have heard of him and would need to do the googling themselves.

I guess Ndombele might have seen him play in the Champions League final.

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

A shit rose is still a million times better than D'oherty and Davies

 

[DiVaio]

A shit rose is still a million times better than D'oherty and Davies

No, he isn't.

 

[dtxspurs]

No, he isn't.

Rose is definitely better than Doherty. I know Rose is a meme at this point but Doherty might be the worst player I've seen at Spurs in the last 5 years at least. Wimmer, Janssen, Nkoudou & Njie were all better players

 

[DiVaio]

Rose is definitely better than Doherty.

It's not 2017.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

not much difference when they are all shit...

 

[Tucker]

Can’t imagine Rose, or Cirkin would have been any worse than Doherty last night.

 

[browndchl]

Got a feeling Rose might be brought back into the squad due to injuries ?

 

[thecook]

I wouldn't have thought so. I very much doubt he's training at anything like the intensity needed to actually play

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

No, he isn't.

Thank god your not our manager ... although its hard to thank god for jose right now

 

[DiVaio]

Thank god your not our manager ... although its hard to thank god for jose right now

He didn't play well at Newcastle. He didn't play well first half of 19/20. He's playing right now for u23 and the clubs linked with him are shit.
No, he isn't magically better than other defenders because they were at fault yesterday and he wasn't.

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

He didn't play well at Newcastle. He didn't play well first half of 19/20. He's playing right now for u23 and the clubs linked with him are shit.
No, he isn't magically better than other defenders because they were at fault yesterday and he wasn't.

I think you missed the point/irony/joke.... im expressing how totally sh*t D'oherty is and Davies , rather than me wanting rose back.

 

[DiVaio]

I think you missed the point/irony/joke.... im expressing how totally sh*t D'oherty is and Davies , rather than me wanting rose back.

And you missed the point/irony/joke that.... Davies and Doherty aren't shit.