Pascal Chimbonda - What were you thinking?

[SpurSince57]

Fined a week's wages.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

we are talking about the cup we won but you do know that there's still more than ten games left in the premier league and a waffa cup to consider - if we've got one player rocking the boat then yeah, i want to talk about that.

How long, in your opinion, must we live in this joyous bubble before we start addressing the possible issues that will matter to the games still to come? :shrug:

what are you going on about mate, celebrate the cup win or whats the point of following spurs?

you think i'm not and haven't been celebrating winning the cup???

Don't be so short-sighted - yes, we tipped over Chelsea to take home some silverware but Chimbonda, once again, showed signs of a questionable attitude towards team-mates, something that could break down morale - you lose the team spirit, you can drop down the league in a blink.

There were rumours for the last few weeks about his attitude (mostly unsubstantiated) and this makes me start wonder if they don't hold some weight. I don't want a stroppy prima-donna in the side unless he's that damned good it makes no difference.

The one main factor though that makes me continue to discuss Chimbonda is because this happens to be a Chimbonda thread - the "Lets all dance and sing and celebrate the cup win thread" is here :shrug:

You obviously don't like the topic of this thread, so go there instead and let us continue discussing it, eh? :up:


edit: Fixed your borked quotation and after seeing what SS57 beat me to posting, does that point to the attitude in which he left the pitch? Good on you Ramos, team spirit is everything right now...

 

[SpurSince57]

And I'd like to clarify, just because I can understand why he acted like a complete knob doesn't mean I think he was justified in acting like a complete knob.

 

[Bill_Oddie]

Written apology...?

Just kidding. I agree with SS57 and am happy that he's done the right thing. Good work for him and Juande (and presumably nothing to do with his twat of an agent). Lets forget about this and put it behind us. Nothing to see here.

 

[LadieK]

Yeah he's appologised now so let's move on :dance:

We are, after all, THE CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD!

well, of the cup

 

[thfc_2004]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_3197210,00.html

And if we had lost he'd be saying "I told you so".

 

[lennon321g]

we need him for the uefa cup...so you muppets better not boo him.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

we need him for the uefa cup...so you muppets better not boo him.

he can do a job, but we don't "need" him, by any stretch of the imagination - i could list 5 or 6 players that go on the team sheet before him, possibly more, but i'd not boo him - why would i?

I'd tell him that he needs to stop trying to get himself this bad-boi image as so far it's a) Made us all think he was a smelly drunk harassing the rest of the squad at a tattoo parlour he happens to sleep in the doorway of, and b) strop when sacrificed for a change of tactic - it's not even like he was taken off because he was tired or having a bad game, he was taken off because we needed to change the shape of the side - Woody and Deadly were on top form, Hutton was getting forward well but we were ignoring that right side far too much anyway. Stroppy guy, but he needs to reign that in if he's going to carry on playing here and not start pissing people off :shrug:

 

[DC_Boy]

he's apologised - he's done well since moving to LB - we'll need him at RB probably for UEFA - let's give him our support

he's helped us to an historic victory - I'm still a Chimbonda fan - and I'll cheer him next time he plays for us

 

[lennon321g]

he can do a job, but we don't "need" him, by any stretch of the imagination - i could list 5 or 6 players that go on the team sheet before him, possibly more, but i'd not boo him - why would i?

I'd tell him that he needs to stop trying to get himself this bad-boi image as so far it's a) Made us all think he was a smelly drunk harassing the rest of the squad at a tattoo parlour he happens to sleep in the doorway of, and b) strop when sacrificed for a change of tactic - it's not even like he was taken off because he was tired or having a bad game, he was taken off because we needed to change the shape of the side - Woody and Deadly were on top form, Hutton was getting forward well but we were ignoring that right side far too much anyway. Stroppy guy, but he needs to reign that in if he's going to carry on playing here and not start pissing people off :shrug:

hutton is cup tied and tainio is a liability at right back.we need him. gilberto will obviously take over left back spot.

 

[SpurSince57]

he can do a job, but we don't "need" him, by any stretch of the imagination - i could list 5 or 6 players that go on the team sheet before him, possibly more, but i'd not boo him - why would i?

I'd tell him that he needs to stop trying to get himself this bad-boi image as so far it's a) Made us all think he was a smelly drunk harassing the rest of the squad at a tattoo parlour he happens to sleep in the doorway of, and b) strop when sacrificed for a change of tactic - it's not even like he was taken off because he was tired or having a bad game, he was taken off because we needed to change the shape of the side - Woody and Deadly were on top form, Hutton was getting forward well but we were ignoring that right side far too much anyway. Stroppy guy, but he needs to reign that in if he's going to carry on playing here and not start pissing people off :shrug:

I don't know who they'd be where RB is concerned.

 

[LadieK]

I don't know who they'd be where RB is concerned.

Such ashame Stalteri's not about..............

 

[CosmicHotspur]

So, if you protest and walk off in a huff in your job when your boss asks you to do something you're not happy about, even though it's for the good of the rest of your colleagues and the company, your behaviour is acceptable?

Difference is he's earning a huge salary and the boss has a proven track record of winning and definitely knows best. It's also something done in front of thousands of people and shows dissension, petulance and a lack of respect and maturity.

He's part of a squad, not an eleven man team. Glad he has apologised, but he should remember and learn for future occasions as should all the team.

 

[oasis_yid]

Who cares - Cup Final - gets taken off. No one likes to be subbed - think back to when you are at school..... no one likes it. And a massive game like this, doesn't take a genius to work out why he was fucked off.

We know he has not been loyal to Wigan and that there has been some silly comments he has made back in Jan about wanting out and not fighting for his place.... but you can't give him crap for Sunday.

 

[DC_Boy]

we deffo do need him at RB for UEFA - he's our only eligible RB

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Obviously...

I notice that, 9/10, the "Teemu's a liability", "Teemu isn't good enough" etc. comments are usually dolled out by the same few who hate him no matter what. Personally i have confidence in Teemu wherever he plays, and i'm damn sure he's better at defending duties than Chimbonda the Absent is :lol:

Chimbonda is only interested in getting forward - yes, he's had a few good games out of position (in fact, played better there than he has at his natural position for some months now - go figure :shrug: ) but his defending is woeful. Having Woodgate back there means we have a real high-profile cleaner who will cover right across that back line where needed.

Chimbo is no more than a squad player for me - his attitude outweighs his talent and his ego often gets in the way when we need him focussed.

Yes, Hutton is cup tied for the waffa now but i'm firmly in of the belief that, if we bring in another young RB in the summer, Chimbonda will leave and the club will quietly breath a huge sigh of relief - he's the stroppy flatmate who never does any tidying up but, when you ask them to do one tiny favour and maybe wash up, strops and argues like you've asked for his lung on loan. We don't need that at Spurs.

 

[yanno]

I don't know who they'd be where RB is concerned.

Absolutely. For the UEFA Cup, Hutton & Gunter are both ineligible. Here's the official UEFA squad:
http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/club=1652/competition=14/index.html

Teemu is now a Spurs legend after winding Drogba up. But he's still not a RB for me, although I suspect Juande thinks otherwise. Beyond that, we're into the likes of Zokora, YP Lee and Rocha - none of whom are natural RBs. And then it's the kids, Riley and Cian Hughton.

Chimbo was out of order. But he was taken off for tactical reasons, not because he was playing badly. As SS57 and I wrote straight after the match, and as Guillem Balague confirms here:
http://www.skysports.com/experts/expert_story/0,19793,12087_3194330,00.html

Is Chimbo a Big Time Charlie? Yes.

Is Chimbo the best available RB for our hopefully glorious UEFA Cup campaign? Yes.

Is "End of" the most irritating phrase ever? Yes.

End of.

 

[yanno]

I notice that, 9/10, the "Teemu's a liability", "Teemu isn't good enough" etc. comments are usually dolled out by the same few who hate him no matter what. Personally i have confidence in Teemu wherever he plays, and i'm damn sure he's better at defending duties than Chimbonda the Absent is :lol:

RSS - I'm one of Teemu's biggest fans. I still think he'd have done a better job than Zokora on Sunday. Firstly, he wouldn't have been caught out of position so often and then recklessly given away a succession of freekicks on the edge of our box. Offering shooting practice 20 yards out to a top side is suicidal. Secondly, if he'd got forward he'd have been far more likely to pass to a Spurs player or score than Didier. But, much as I like Teemu, Chimbonda is a much better RB. No contest.

 

[Evolution]

RSS - I'm one of Teemu's biggest fans. I still think he'd have done a better job than Zokora on Saturday.

Not so sure about that. While I like Teemu and think he is a good defensive midfielder. Zoko has more energy and drive then Teemu and in all honesty apart from a few sloppy tackles, Zoko had a very good game on Sunday and broke up the play nicely.

Back on topic however, it's Pascal at RB in the UEFA Cup for me ahead of Teemu no question. The x2 times I have seen Teemu in that position he has looked a real poor and clearly is not comfortable playing there.

Yes Pascal certainly has a rather large chip on his shoulder but he has always impressed me at Right Back and with Hutton ineligible, it's an easy choice for Ramos tbh.

 

[stemark44]

I can fully understand his frustrations, but the thing everyone seems to have overlooked is that Chimbonda is thick. Really, really, really, thick. I'm talking an absolute dolt. He has the brain of a gnu. A dead gnu. With a heavy head cold. Who has just failed the gnu 11+, with a score of -5/100. He will never be going to gnu grammar school. Or even gnu comprehensive. He will be forced to stay in the gnu playgroup and play with the soft toys on the mat, closely monitored by 3 gnu helpers.

We have had no end of stories that he can't read or write (perhaps only in English but how long has he lived there?) and that his native tongue is little better. He dresses like a twerp. His eyes have the radiance and clarity of a turd. His agent is a nasty **** as well, and obviously advises him very badly, and he is doubtless more responsible than Chimbs for the poor reputation the player has earned.


Anyway, that's not to say he isn't a good player. He was magnificent for Wigan and for the 1st year with us and has been terrific out of place at LB. But it really surprised me when SS57 says that no one could have predicted the Chimbs>Hudd switch.

Surely anyone to have seen how Ramos chases games (usually successfully) must have seen that Huddlestone was 100% coming on to unlock their defence, and that seeing as we couldn't sacrifice midfielders, wouldn't want to take off strikers, and our centre-halves were so magnificent left the swap as either Hutton or Chimbo.

And besides which, Ramos would have mentioned the probable swap in the dressing room at half-time, so Chimbo must have had an inkling at least. Wouldn't he?


NB: There's nothing wrong with being thLauick, by the way. Lest we forget that footballers have never been geniuses and nor should they be. Chimbonda is imminently more intelligent on a football pitch than me or anyone else on here and that's why we shouldn't actually be too upset with him. However, as he was subbed, we're talking about his behaviour off the pitch and hence it is relevant to question his intelligence here, I believe.

That first paragraph was hilarious and very true.
I actually think it could have been Chimbos agent that actually saved his ass on Sunday.
I can imagine him sitting at home watching the game and thinking,shit theres my client storming down the tunnel acting like a gnu,how the hell am I supposed to to sell this plonker to anyone in the summer?
Gets straight on the phone!"Chimbo get your ****ing ass back out there or we can kiss goodbye to a few hundred grand each"
Chimbo