Next Manager Watch

[Chris Flynn]

It was hardly disastrous. Most on here were begging for him to takeover the season we appointed Nuno.

The club overstretched their finances, were hit badly during Covid and couldn’t refresh the team. Overall the relegation. Isn’t totally his fault.

i would say its enough of his fault for him to be considered unsuccessful. Unless an FA cup and relegation is a success in which case we work on different definitions of the word

 

[WiganSpur]

The worst part of Goats post is that we still haven't decided. Unforgivable to still not have a clear choice. I would no doubt be more confident to get someone who has managed at a higher level to Ange. However he's still an interesting option and we should know by now who we want.

I take it to be:

- We have a decent idea of who we would want (Ange). But it seems clear that the two parties have spoken to each other yet so obviously we don't know for sure if he's going to be the right man based off those conversations.

- Should we decide not to pursue Ange after those conversations (e.g he is demanding full control over transfers and Levy won't budge), or Ange rejects us, then we will pursue other targets (likely Enrique)

- In the background, we are speaking with Enrique (or whoever else) in the event the talks with Ange don't provide alignment and suggest the right fit.

So nothing wrong with how we are going about it, at this very moment at least imo.

 

[Chris Flynn]

Alex Ferguson,?

Last 30 years mate. Clue was in the words

 

[Ghost Hardware]

'Permission'.. isn't as BREAKING as it sounds. Ange is on a 12 month rolling contract, which by all accounts has expired and the 'permission' harks back to something Ange said himself; that he doesn't want to know about anything other than Celtic right now, and his reps know better than to bring him nonsense before a cup final. It's not like Celtic have said, 'sure knock yourselves out'.

His Agency is CAA Base, which is also who Spurs have been using as intermediaries. They've probably all been talking about it in the kitchen at the CAA Base offices!!

Was going to say the same. Whilst I think it’s pretty much certainly going to happen I think it will be still up in the air until we have serious talks next week. Like you say we won’t need their permission. Im sure Celtic will be doing the same trying to get him to stay. I’m sure Levy will have had preliminary discussions with his agent but I’d be surprised if they went into too many specifics.

 

[allatsea]

The worst part of Goats post is that we still haven't decided. Unforgivable to still not have a clear choice. I would no doubt be more confident to get someone who has managed at a higher level to Ange. However he's still an interesting option and we should know by now who we want.

Have you thought it may be the Board providing cover/excuse just incase the Celtic Manager says no ?

 

[Johnny J]

'Permission'.. isn't as BREAKING as it sounds. Ange is on a 12 month rolling contract, which by all accounts has expired and the 'permission' harks back to something Ange said himself; that he doesn't want to know about anything other than Celtic right now, and his reps know better than to bring him nonsense before a cup final. It's not like Celtic have said, 'sure knock yourselves out'.

I'm sure you're right - just posting what I heard on the radio.

 

[mil1lion]

I take it to be:

- We have a decent idea of who we would want (Ange). But it seems clear that the two parties have spoken to each other yet so obviously we don't know for sure if he's going to be the right man based off those conversations.

- Should we decide not to pursue Ange after those conversations (e.g he is demanding full control over transfers and Levy won't budge), or Ange rejects us, then we will pursue other targets (likely Enrique)

- In the background, we are speaking with Enrique (or whoever else) in the event the talks with Ange don't provide alignment and suggest the right fit.

So nothing wrong with how we are going about it, at this very moment at least imo.

You have more faith then me in how we are running things

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Two of our biggest complaints about how we have been playing as a team have been a lack of speed of forward or purposeful passing, and a lack of determination to hurt the opposition over the whole 90 minutes. Sometimes down to the manager, sometimes the players not being good enough, and often both.

Sometimes we describe these flaws as a lack of tactical nous, sometimes a lack of fighting spirit, along with a few other more colourful variants, but that’s the gist, isn’t it?

There’s reason to think that they are exactly the sort of things Angie is good at dealing with. They are not qualities exclusive to managers with PL or equivalent experience. They are not things that Pep has a ring fence around. They are things that Conte and Mourinho didn’t particularly try hard to build, and they cant be accused of a lack of credentials.

He’ll need support from Levy, but that would apply to any manager in the world who got the job.

So It seems to me that perhaps, given the reality of the situation with Levy and the ownership style that no manager has ever been able to change, perhaps Ange stands as good a chance as any, and more than many, of addressing the specific weaknesses we suffer from.

 

[mil1lion]

Last 30 years mate. Clue was in the words

Why does it even matter if there hasn't been anyone from that league at the top level for a while? It's like saying who from South Korea has really done anything special in the league before Son came along. Ange could be the best thing since Sir Alex to come out of there for all we know. He's a risk for sure but I don't think the history of managers from the Scottish league will have anything to do with it. He'll either be cut out for it or not.

 

[Finchyid]

Why does it even matter if there hasn't been anyone from that league at the top level for a while? It's like saying who from South Korea has really done anything special in the league before Son came along. Ange could be the best thing since Sir Alex to come out of there for all we know. He's a risk for sure but I don't think the history of managers from the Scottish league will have anything to do with it. He'll either be cut out for it or not.

its also selective saying 30 years ! why 30 years. cos it omits the most succesful manager in premier league history who managed in Scotland before !

 

[makeveli]

So if Ryan mason goes to manage Celtic and wins the league playing fast and ferocious foot ball you guys would want him to manage spurs cause his the messiah in Scotland … this world!!

 

[Yid-ol]

Oh my goodness - it's going to be mental on here later with people analysing it.

He waved to the fans... He is leaving them! No he winked also, he is staying. .....

 

[tobi]

Okay well I’m going to believe that the someone else is Gallardo and that Levy will see the light and go for him. Why you may ask? Because today Im choosing to live in a fantasy world where money grows on trees, people shit confetti and Spurs are a well run team with a visionary in charge.

Sadly I feel this dream will be shattered shortly when I go for my mid day bowel movement.

 

[TOMSPURS]

'Permission'.. isn't as BREAKING as it sounds. Ange is on a 12 month rolling contract, which by all accounts has expired and the 'permission' harks back to something Ange said himself; that he doesn't want to know about anything other than Celtic right now, and his reps know better than to bring him nonsense before a cup final. It's not like Celtic have said, 'sure knock yourselves out'.

His Agency is CAA Base, which is also who Spurs have been using as intermediaries. They've probably all been talking about it in the kitchen at the CAA Base offices!!

Generally in business with 12 month rolling contracts there is an agreed date that both parties decide if they are going to renew, usually weeks/months before contract ends, to give both sides some certainty.
It's possible both Celtic & Ange P signed a commitment to renew the contract on improved terms, with terms to be finalised end of season.
Spurs would then need agreement & would need to pay some compensation to Celtic.

 

[bigfrooj]

Yeah but Slot wasn't born in a nation where football's a minority sport and there's fuck all support or infrastructure. Slot's from a country that's absolutely obsessed with football and played in the top division there - of course it was easier for him.

The fact Ange has got this far given his background is, if anything, a testament to his ability not a slight on it - he's literally the only aussie to ever be considered for a job at this level AFAIK?

Not all true. The support and fanaticism amongst the various ethnic groups in Australia is fierce. Ange is Greek born and the Greeks in Australia are absolutely raving football mental. He knew he had to move abroad to further his career but you can't damn him for being a coach in Australia - regarded as the best coach ever in Australia in fact. My cousins over there think he's brilliant and are proud of his achievements overseas. We'll see, I'm old enough to remember a coach at Aberdeen that won everything in Scotland and do well in Europe, come to England and turn a rotten giant club into the best ever in English football history.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I take it to be:

- We have a decent idea of who we would want (Ange). But it seems clear that the two parties have spoken to each other yet so obviously we don't know for sure if he's going to be the right man based off those conversations.

- Should we decide not to pursue Ange after those conversations (e.g he is demanding full control over transfers and Levy won't budge), or Ange rejects us, then we will pursue other targets (likely Enrique)

- In the background, we are speaking with Enrique (or whoever else) in the event the talks with Ange don't provide alignment and suggest the right fit.

So nothing wrong with how we are going about it, at this very moment at least imo.

Agree think you’ve nailed it

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

So if Ryan mason goes to manage Celtic and wins the league playing fast and ferocious foot ball you guys would want him to manage spurs cause his the messiah in Scotland … this world!!

If he or anyone went to Scotland and completely transformed a team into a powerful and fluent attacking force that won more often and more convincingly than before they arrived, I think they’d deserve to be taken seriously.

 

[JW72]

Waltzing Matilda is a well known Australian folk song, it’s their unofficial anthem.

How do people not know this?

It is indeed. Here are the original lyrics:

Once an Aussie legend
Came to manage Tottenham
Straight out of Glasgow to N17
And he stood on the touchline,
As the Spurs went marching on
Ange Postecoglu is Tottenham’s Aussie.

Ange Postecoglu, Ange Postecoglu
Ange Postecoglu is Tottenham’s Aussie
And he stands on the touchline,
As the Spurs go marching on
Ange Postecoglu is Tottenham’s Aussie.

 

[arunspurs]

I have not been on Ange train till now - still feel Enrique is the better choice. I am not fully Ange, not because he is not good enough - just feel Enrique is more proven predictable...

Having said that, just say Ange is actually able to translate his philosophy (whether he can is the real question)....thats a tasty prospect.

To ridicule him saying he has only been in Celtic is not correct....its not same Celtic players he will get here, will he?
He is going to get the best striker in the PL. He is going to get one of the best wingers and one of the best CM & CB in Bentancur & Romero. He is going to get a very good inverted RB in Emerson. Udogie is a question mark but potential is there.

If we can add some good quality in GK,CB,CM , its going to be very decent XI

Question then is, can he get his philosophy in this team. If he can, then I can clearly see this step working. If he cant, he wont last 10 weeks.

I hope for our sake its the former

 

[makeveli]

To transform a club in a division with only 2 top clubs isn’t bloody magic