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[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Does Postecoglou like his teams to play out from the back? We've heard a lot about his high press, but I'm not overly familiar with the build up play - and I always considered that Joe Hart wasn't brilliant with the ball at his feet (so much so that one of Pep's first acts as City boss was to get rid).

Yes. His style is extremely similar to Man City/Arsenal. High press, high possession, inverted full backs, wingers isolating full backs and winning 1 on 1 duels. And that includes playing out from the back and through midfield.

 

[mil1lion]

How much do you think you would have to pay to get Slot out of his contract that had one year left on it?

Apparently 15m for him and his staff. My point is he didn't turn us down. We just didn't want to pay what was needed. It's like saying Kane didn't want to join City when they didn't want to pay our fee.

 

[tony0379]

Throw everything at Nags you bald ****

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Fuck it, I'm pro-Postecoglou. It is a big risk but I'm confident he will be able to implement his style of football here - who knows where it may take us, but at least when I go to matches there's a good chance I won't think I should've spent the 5-6 hours travelling to a game, watching the game, and travelling back watching paint dry.

 

[easley91]

Also worth noting his predecessor and competitors have done better in europe

Compare that to
Van Bronkhurst took Rangers to Europa League Final
Rodgers took Celtics to Europa League twice after getting knocked out in Champions League, losing to Valencia and Zenit. He also finished 2nd in a group with Salzburg and Leipzig knocking out Nagelsmann a year before he knocked us out of the CL
Lennon finished top of a group including Cluj, Rennes and Lazio.
Rodgers also got 3 points in a group with Man City, Barcelona and Munchengladbach. So harder group but got more points
Rodgers got Europa League finishing 3rd in a group with PSG, Bayern Munich and Anderlecht

Rodgers imo is a better option than Ange, but because of his baggage and him being a tit people would be angry at his appointment

This Europe stuff.. not like we have done any better apart from the UCL final season is it? Conte's record is SHOCKING in Europe. Plus we're not even in Europe next season, so why does this record of his matter at the moment?

 

[robotsonic]

Forget the managers - How about 20
Years of levy failures his a serial failure a failure of failures you can’t get any more failures

How about we don't forget the managers in the thread about managers, and instead remember to post the DL hate in the thread for it?

 

[TOMSPURS]

Also worth noting his predecessor and competitors have done better in europe

Compare that to
Van Bronkhurst took Rangers to Europa League Final
Rodgers took Celtics to Europa League twice after getting knocked out in Champions League, losing to Valencia and Zenit. He also finished 2nd in a group with Salzburg and Leipzig knocking out Nagelsmann a year before he knocked us out of the CL
Lennon finished top of a group including Cluj, Rennes and Lazio.
Rodgers also got 3 points in a group with Man City, Barcelona and Munchengladbach. So harder group but got more points
Rodgers got Europa League finishing 3rd in a group with PSG, Bayern Munich and Anderlecht

Rodgers imo is a better option than Ange, but because of his baggage and him being a tit people would be angry at his appointment

Rodgers definitely got better results in Europe, also led Celtic to title with 106pts, but personally also feel he had better players & squad.....Tierney, Edourd, Ajer etc. His teams were also more pragmatic that Ange P side.
Most Celtic fans believe Ange P has done a better job than Rodgers.

 

[0v3rl0r9]

Admit it, the 4 of you that disliked this fight in carvery car parks on sundays

Or the 4 of them actually like the fact he's dishing out wallops in car parks.

 

[Norvern Munkey]

My bass player is Scottish and a Celtic fan - was going to ask about AP at rehearsals last night, but he’s a bass player so fuck him and his worthless opinion.

Hey !!! I'm a bass player and we are all......... ????? No fair point our opinions are worthless and we definitely are in desperate need of being fucked

 

[KaribYid]

Does Postecoglou like his teams to play out from the back? We've heard a lot about his high press, but I'm not overly familiar with the build up play - and I always considered that Joe Hart wasn't brilliant with the ball at his feet (so much so that one of Pep's first acts as City boss was to get rid).

Yep, it's a trademark of his philosphy.

Raheem Sterling after playing Ange's Yokohama team in pre-season:

“They’re probably one of the best teams I’ve seen play out from the back and they played some great football so it was a great test for us."

 

[Silky Skills]

Rodgers definitely got better results in Europe, also led Celtic to title with 106pts, but personally also feel he had better players & squad.....Tierney, Edourd, Ajer etc. His teams were also more pragmatic that Ange P side.
Most Celtic fans believe Ange P has done a better job than Rodgers.

I thought Rodgers managed when Rangers were outside the top division ............... to tell the truth I don't really care - I had no idea who Jol was and all I knew of Poch was his poor grasp of English whilst at Southampton ..... let's just get a manager who wants to attack

 

[mil1lion]

Who the fuck cares about his record in Europe? We're not in European competition. He just needs to come to a mid table club and keep us away from relegation. ENIC have brought us full circle and back where we were when they took over. COYS #KlinsmannSOS

 

[beats1]

Rodgers definitely got better results in Europe, also led Celtic to title with 106pts, but personally also feel he had better players & squad.....Tierney, Edourd, Ajer etc. His teams were also more pragmatic that Ange P side.
Most Celtic fans believe Ange P has done a better job than Rodgers.

But they also dont like Rodgers for the manner he left

This Europe stuff.. not like we have done any better apart from the UCL final season is it? Conte's record is SHOCKING in Europe. Plus we're not even in Europe next season, so why does this record of his matter at the moment?

Because that's the highest level he has managed and its not encouraging, here's a manager who brought 24 players in seasons outspent his rivals, They spent during his time, €56.4m compared to Rangers €20m. Spending 2.5x the nearest rivals during his tenure.

People say he shouldn't be judged on his time as Celtic manager and his other stuff. But that's even less reliable than this, no one would suggest Kevin Muscat, who just won the league with Yokohama

 

[beats1]

To expand on/simplify this:

2004-2004 - Santini - boring personality, boring football = failure
2004-2007 - Jol - warm and likeable personality, attacking free flowing football = success
2007-2008 - Ramos - boring personality (albeit partly due to language barrier), boring football, bad results = cup win but failure in the league and overall given the length of tenure
2008-2012 - Redknapp - likeable personality, attacking free flowing football = success
2012-2013 - AVB - okish personality but hardly hugely galvanising, boring football = did okish
2014-2019 - Poch - warm and likeable personality, attacking free flowing football = success
2019-2021 - Mourinho - not likeable personality, boring football = failure
2021-2021 - Nuno - not likeable personality, boring football = failure
2021-2023 - Conte - not likeable personality, boring football = failure

The correlation and conditions for a Manager to be 'success' at Tottenham is pretty clear.

This is why I thought Slot would be perfect and its why I think Big Ange could be a very good option.

Ramos Boring football, he played some really good stuff up until the cup final where we coasted for the rest of the season but Ramos at Sevilla and us wasn't boring

AVB did OK, AVB was terrible, Bale having one of the best seasons got us to 5th, he had no game plan

 

[Rout-Ledge]

It depends what is considered failure at Spurs. I wouldn't say Conte was a failure, got us 4th and was challenging 4th again this season. He just made it clear that top 4 isn't enough for him and tapped out. Jose got us into Europe ahead of Arsenal and got to a cup final. I don't think it's as black and white as success or failure. Success for Levy is regular Europe qualification and the odd CL run. Success for the fans has altered due to our runs in the CL and wanting more than that. Given what we do in the transfer window I think there's more success than given credit for to be honest. It's more a matter of who can get the most out of a limited budget and not demand the resources of the top clubs. We are where we belong under Levy but the fans want us to level up now so expectation is at another level.

Conte definitely had a short period of success here, but Mourinho was a black and white failure. The cup final was assisted by an unusual run including (from memory) a bye and a one leg home semi final against a Championship side. Hardly the CL final run.

 

[easley91]

But they also dont like Rodgers for the manner he left

Because that's the highest level he has managed and its not encouraging, here's a manager who brought 24 players in seasons outspent his rivals, They spent during his time, €56.4m compared to Rangers €20m. Spending 2.5x the nearest rivals during his tenure.

People say he shouldn't be judged on his time as Celtic manager and his other stuff. But that's even less reliable than this, no one would suggest Kevin Muscat, who just won the league with Yokohama

He managed in Europe with Celtic. CELTIC. What are you expecting? Him to beat the Real Madrids home and away or something? And this past season especially when the group stage was even more tightly packed than normal. I would have expected them to get beat by Madrid and Leipzig. He drew both games v Shakhtar who are notoriously tough opponents themselves.

He isn't going to have the quality to tackle Europe and the league is he? Maybe with better players here he'd have a better record?

 

[Snarfalicious]

Does Postecoglou like his teams to play out from the back? We've heard a lot about his high press, but I'm not overly familiar with the build up play - and I always considered that Joe Hart wasn't brilliant with the ball at his feet (so much so that one of Pep's first acts as City boss was to get rid).

I think the way he prefers to play is literally everything we have been pining for. Play out from the back, quick, sharp passing, attacking intent and playing a generally risky style hellbent on scoring and creating chances.

 

[Whitey]

Ange P doesn't travel with a set coaching staff, he's publicly stated he prefers to work with existing coaches at new clubs. He adds to the staff, Harry Kewell last summer, as required.
If he is appointed, there is a big possibility that Mason will be assistant & Wells will be part of his coaching team.

Ange Postecoglou provides fascinating insight into reasoning behind Celtic staff decisions

Celtic boss Ange Postecoglou has once again opened up on the reason he chose to inherit his backroom staff at Parkhead.

www.67hailhail.com

Ange "Here you go Harry.... Your new contract , 3 year Assistant Player Manager... Sign it or we're in the Carvery carpark"

HK "but but but..... S**t not the Carvery carpark boss, where's the pen"

 

[ukdy]

Youre right, we didn't look good and it was going downhill but he would have done better than Stellini and Mason

His replacement would have got us in to the top 4

We have been in relegation form since Conte left. Won 3 Drawn 2 Lost 5. 11 points out of 30

Looking at stats is a funny old game and only shows 1 side to the story. I dare say a few of the performances after AC left showed more fight and bite than many others this season. That said, injuries, the fact that other teams had games in hand (accrued whilst AC was still manager) and that when Mason took over he tried his best to get us to stop playing a version of AC's pragmaball... moving away from something that's been almost ingrained into their footballing DNA over 4 years, wasn't going to come up smelling of roses overnight.

If AC's replacement had come in the very next game after he left, all of the above would still needed to be tackled, a new playing style, injuries, teams with games in hand, dropping low-performing players... it would still have been a 'ride out the season' job. Without Stellini I'm sure we'd have Europe though.

 

[Chris Flynn]

'Leave it Ange, he's not worth it!'

'you took the last 3 yorkshires and you didnt even finish them you slag'