Next Manager Watch

[muppetman]

Not been following the thread recently but have we had solid ITK about why we aren't progressing with him?

 

[Yiddo100]

Not been following the thread recently but have we had solid ITK about why we aren't progressing with him?

No

 

[talkshowhost86]

Very clearly JN had an idea of how he thought the project should be run and Levy being the smartest man in every room he's ever been in thinks he knows better so we move to someone less demanding and more trusting

To be fair if Nagelsmann had these ludicrous demands then I can understand us walking away.

We can't have a manager coming in and expecting us to have a DoF and a recruitment structure.

We've spent a long time building up the culture of negativity and chaos and we can't have someone progressive coming in and ruining that.

Now...who has Sam Allardyce's number?

 

[Kirito]

We should not be basing our next appointment on the outcome of 3 games. If the club have decided Mason is the man to take us forward how we perform in our last three games should have no influence over that decision. If it does then it means we aren’t completely convinced in his ability.

Personally I don’t think Mason should be in the conversation for our next manager position, but if he is then club need to be 100% behind his appointment regardless of how he performs in the short term. It would be naive to believe a manager with so little experience wouldn’t hit a good number of speed bumps next season if he got the job and the club can’t be second guessing him the minute we do.

I think my post didn’t come across the way it was supposed to. I’m not an advocate for Mason being our next manager, I’m an advocate for us winning games and if that means Mason gets hired then so be it.

It’s pointless getting worked up/upset with something none of us have control of or a say in.

If we hire Mason - cool
If we hire Slot - cool

 

[Trix]

I don’t think it’s at all fair to imply that because Ally has previously said he’s heard we are in for JN that he’s making it up. Or that what he’s hearing now is made up for that matter.

He’s just reporting what his sources are telling him.

As we are often reminded about any information we get from various different sources, things can change quickly in football.

I don't think he's making it up, far from it.

 

[Tucker]

Not been following the thread recently but have we had solid ITK about why we aren't progressing with him?

Nothing explicit. But I shared over some stuff from Prof on Coys where he was hinting that it just basically wasn’t a good fit personality wise.

 

[muppetman]

Nothing explicit. But I shared over some stuff from Prof on Coys where he was hinting that it just basically wasn’t a good fit personality wise.

That sounds like a sensible reason not to proceed - particularly after our last 2 (or 2 and a quarter if you include Nuno) appointments.

 

[chas vs dave]

I don't think he's making it up, far from it.

I get that, but no one knows what conversations have been had, or what has been said.

It just seems people want to be angry about things that they don't know about.

I'm refraining from any judgement until i see us play under whoever the manager is.

 

[chas vs dave]

Nothing explicit. But I shared over some stuff from Prof on Coys where he was hinting that it just basically wasn’t a good fit personality wise.

We went with 2 managers who weren't good fits. We don't need a manager who won't pull in the same direction as the board.

 

[HedgieSpur]

This is very true, I just think there is still a small group of fans who still have faith in him and the board to get things right, when they’ve done very little to prove they deserve anymore leeway.

I think the group of ENIC fans is a lot larger than you might think.

As it stands, In just marking time until a new owner comes along… no point in stressing over the shit show any more.

 

[muppetman]

Apologies if this has already been shared but seems to back up the idea it's about "fit".

 

[Trix]

I get that, but no one knows what conversations have been had, or what has been said.

It just seems people want to be angry about things that they don't know about.

I'm refraining from any judgement until i see us play under whoever the manager is.

Been doing that for years. Giving them the benefit of the doubt ended with the Nuno debacle for me. As I've said 23 years of excuses and what ifs. Even if they have a legitimate excuse for everything that's gone on in that time, it's still been going on too long.

 

[mil1lion]

It's crazy how similar this is to 2 years ago. Remember when Conte was looking likely and we had a free run at him? I remember one point when he posted in English on Instagram and people were convinced it was happening. We then backed off due to his demands because he's used to having a big club budget. This time it's Nagelsmann. At least it is happening before the summer this time. We might actually have time to still get someone and maybe this time not turn down the chance for a Ten Hag. We also didn't have a DOF at the start of that manager search, lets hope we don't spend ages getting one and then they come in and bring their own list of horrible options.

 

[ShriekinKnight]

So Nagelsmann has intricate knowledge of how RB Leipzig and Bayern Munich operate, has ideas of how the structure for the football operation should be run to be successful, and Levy wasn't on board with ANY of the demands (DoF, wage structure, transfer policy)...

That seems promising for the new project we are building

 

[journeyman]

Slot my preferred option now. But I’d even take Potter or Rodgers - who have both created really good teams in the Prem over lengthy periods - ahead of Ryan.

 

[Russ1201]

Slot my preferred option now. But I’d even take Potter or Rodgers - who have both created really good teams in the Prem over lengthy periods - ahead of Ryan.

I would take Ryan over Rodgers. I can not stand that smug shit

 

[HedgieSpur]

That sounds like a sensible reason not to proceed - particularly after our last 2 (or 2 and a quarter if you include Nuno) appointments.

….. and something that can be worked out in less than half a day.

That’s exactly why I don’t buy this “personality” stuff at all.

My opinion is that Nagelsmann didn’t like the structure (or lack of it) being proposed and what we told him regarding autonomy in decision making regarding players and budgets.

In this respect, I’m happy for Nagelsmann as it’s better he goes to a club that align with the structure he wants.

 

[Yantino]

So Nagelsmann has intricate knowledge of how RB Leipzig and Bayern Munich operate, has ideas of how the structure for the football operation should be run to be successful, and Levy wasn't on board with ANY of the demands (DoF, wage structure, transfer policy)...

That seems promising for the new project we are building

Where is it stated that Levy wasn't on board with any of the demands? must've missed that.

 

[HedgieSpur]

Apologies if this has already been shared but seems to back up the idea it's about "fit".

and so it begins……the word “fit” used as a deflection tactic….

 

[muppetman]

and so it begins……the word “fit” used as a deflection tactic….

I guess it depends on your starting point (general you, not specific you). If you think the whole board is useless then you will not believe anything as other than spin.

If not, then after the last couple of years it makes a lot of sense to pick a manager that the players will respond to. We need to recreate the Poch atmosphere as much as anything else and if there wasn't confidence that JN could do that then it makes sense.

We are all speculating though so who knows.