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BujuBanton

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But you understand it’s just a person doing a minimum wage job to pay their bills who manages that email. It’s not Micky Hazard

of course i understand that. I dont expect them to know who the manager is, but i expect them to believe that the fans mean something to the club
 

Ghost Hardware

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The Extra Inch had a bonus episode for subscribers this week with a Dutch football expert and Feyenoord fan. He was singing Slot’s praises. It was really interesting and it sounds like he'd be a good fit. Likes young players, high intensity/press, adaptable, makes early subs when required/not afraid to change tactics mid game, comes across well with the press, likeable. Only concern is that he struggles to break down a low block.
It will def be Slot at this point im sure. The fan is right tho and I’ve said as much in the past, they really struggle to break down low block teams as their attacking partners are quite one dimensional when not on a counter. Got to say having watched them a good bit I’m not as wild about his appointment as others are on here.

But regardless of Slot, one thing will be interesting is how any managers deals with adapting Porro and Udogie into FB in a back 4 when both their strengths are very much attacking. It was another big plus about Nagelsmann in that he was very versatile tactically and often plays 3 at the back. He is so much more tactically astute than Slot or any of the other managers we have been recently linked to.
 

glacierSpurs

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something more that made me believe they gave a sht

rather than ‘dunno, if you dont like it, dont renew’
Agree. Yet somehow there are people who think it's ok because he/she has done the bare minimum of replying without actually performing the basic standard of customer servicing. 🤷‍♂️
 

Nebby

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Earlier today i emailed the ST Renewals team asking if we will know who the manager is before 1st June.

Their reply:

“Unfortunately we aren't able to confirm this, if you wish to renew by 1 June then this is up to you.”

The club couldnt give a rats arse
What on earth did you expect?
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I mean Newcastle beat us 6-1 and look destined for top 4 with a manager the vast majority of Spurs fans would've turned their noses up at 2 years ago. And most of us thought Arteta was a joke appointment for about 3 years too.

Not saying Slot is guaranteed to succeed, but we've all seen how chasing big names that are "worthy of elite clubs" has worked out for us in the past 3 years.
Spot on great post. Also us when we got Poch so many on here wanted Van Gaal or De Boer but look how well poch did.

So everyone wetting the bed about no Naglesman, let’s wait and see who DOES get the job then we can decide how we react.
 

snakehipsspurs

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So the progress goes - he has admirers, he's on the list - been that way for years. Wanted him before he went to Bayern, we know this

24th March:
"The Tottenham Hotspur hierarchy would like to speak to Julian Nagelsmann about becoming their head coach next seasonand has been placed among Tottenham’s candidates to succeed Antonio Conte" "Tottenham were first interested in appointing Nagelsmann as Pochettino’s successor in November 2019"

Want to contact him, have wanted him for years

27 March:
"Daniel Levy ramps up Tottenham manager search with Julian Nagelsmann his No 1 choice"

24th April:
"Julian Nagelsmann would want a summer move and a decisive say in transfer dealings if he is to consider moving to Tottenham Hotspur."
"The long-time chairman will make a strong attempt to persuade the German. "

Levy wants him, he wants a say in transfer dealings

26th April:

"BILD knows: Nagelsmann is very keen to take over the Spurs for the new season. Nagelsmann is now concentrating on this option. He would be interested in the task. If Tottenham meets Nagelsmann's demands, the German coach could work on the island in the coming season "

Nagelsmann is keen, demands such as having a say in transfers, DoF he agress with

27th April:


"Tottenham have listed Nagelsmann as one of their favoured managerial options, and made contact with him before he pulled out of the running to become the Chelsea manager. Other options include Kompany, Slot, Mason"


Rangnick being a wingman and bigging up the Spurs job, lots of potential, they've worked together before and I assume get on with each other. Club contacted him


"Exclusive: German is high on wanted list but there is a limit to what Spurs will pay to compensate for his Bayern deal "

Club want him, might not want to pay what Bayern want to get him though

2nd May:
Nagelsmann has previously gone on record to speak of his admiration of Spurs in the past. "[I've followed Tottenham closely] since Pochettino was there," he said during his RB Leipzig days. "He's a really good manager, his team was great to watch."

Nagelsmann talks up the club and the job

5th May:


"Tottenham/Levy pushing more and more! Further talks took place in the last days. #COYS are a serious option for him. His opinion: Big club! Big potential! ➡️ But he wants to know exactly: How much power does he get in transfers? And it’s still unclear who will be the new managing director of football after Paratici. "

Levy wants him, but he wants a say in transfers, DoF lined up

6th May:


"German is Daniel Levy's main target but Spurs might have to pay Bayern Munich more than £10 million "



"Julian Nagelsmann remains top of Tottenham list as new coach. He isn’t prepared to advance to the crucial stages of the negotiations until he knows who's going to be the Director of Football"

Club might have to pay for him and he wants to agree on the DoF before joining

Now after all that:
12th May:



"Spurs do not intent to meet with Julian Nagelsmann and he is not currently a contender for the manager’s job "
"Julian Nagelsmann is not being considered as a candidate for the vacant head coach post and the club insist they have not met with him and do not intend to."

Now local reporters have been briefed that the club haven't contacted him and in fact don't want him

So let me get this straight:
* The club are admirers of him and have been for years.
* He is on the list
* He is at the top of the list
* The club have contacted him
* He would be interested in the job

After all that, one of the best young managers in world football with a football philosophy that'd suit the club down to the ground and you don't consider him, haven't met and don't want him in the first place?

The requirements to get him, which have stayed consistent from all sides every single time they've been mentioned from fairly reliable sources are:
* He has to have a say in transfers
* He wants to know the DoF and I assume think he can work with them
* Have to pay Bayern a decent wedge - £10m+

Which aspects do you think have been failed here - money (buying out contract), giving up power (letting him have a say in transfers) or competence (no DoF after not having any contingency plan for Paratici)?

Joke of a club, upper management are incompetent

*Also instead of dealing with this with grace this response makes the club look incredibly petty and unprofessional, you've made the club look even more of a joke and showed potential managers you're not a good place to work at because of it. Well done

My man kept receipts!

For those wondering what the problem is, here you go. The question is not “is Nagelsmann the right choice?”, because the club clearly thought he was the right choice and that’s why he’s been number one on the list for weeks. But once again Levy is unwilling to do what is needed to allow the ‘right man’ in his eyes to be successful. Only difference is this time he’s not hired him first at least.

Whoever comes in will get my full support, and hopefully they’ll be a massive success. But if they are it won’t be because of strategy and vision on the clubs part. It will be blind luck after throwing 300 darts at the board and having a miracle one hit bullseye. Like Poch was a few years ago. I have no faith in their decision making any more.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Earlier today i emailed the ST Renewals team asking if we will know who the manager is before 1st June.

Their reply:

“Unfortunately we aren't able to confirm this, if you wish to renew by 1 June then this is up to you.”

The club couldnt give a rats arse
Did you ask them for the lottery numbers also? 😉😂😅
 

Hoopspur

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I've been traveling - is there specific new info on Slot, or is it just fall out from Nagelsmann?
Long way to Birmingham when there’s no trains….

One small comment from me. Bloody Leyy, Cullen etc. The club have now said they haven’t talked to JN. If this is all spin then what would happen if he himself said this isn’t true? Conspiracies saying we have briefed him to agree? Really?

And don’t start with Slot until there’s something solid to back it up. It’s clear none of us know what’s going on.
 

Albertbarich

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It will def be Slot at this point im sure. The fan is right tho and I’ve said as much in the past, they really struggle to break down low block teams as their attacking partners are quite one dimensional when not on a counter. Got to say having watched them a good bit I’m not as wild about his appointment as others are on here.

But regardless of Slot, one thing will be interesting is how any managers deals with adapting Porro and Udogie into FB in a back 4 when both their strengths are very much attacking. It was another big plus about Nagelsmann in that he was very versatile tactically and often plays 3 at the back. He is so much more tactically astute than Slot or any of the other managers we have been recently linked to.
I'd rather Potter who is flexible with formations and knows the league.

Yeah bring on the disagrees , I'm standing here in a Sainsbury's uniform stacking shelves you can't hurt me!😂
 

Yantino

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Some of you guys need to accept that we’re not a big club. You could describe us a “top six” side, but if so we would be number six on the list (probably number seven). Why would a so called “top manager” like JN consider us anything but a step down? That’s not a sensible career move on his part.
Not sure I agree with that. We are a massive club and definitely one of the top ones in the country and also Europe. Always have been.

What we are not able to compete with are state funded clubs and nor should we be trying to. This is the mistake we’ve made recently. We need to go back to what was working which is what I think the club are trying to do.
 
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Metalhead

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Earlier today i emailed the ST Renewals team asking if we will know who the manager is before 1st June.

Their reply:

“Unfortunately we aren't able to confirm this, if you wish to renew by 1 June then this is up to you.”

The club couldnt give a rats arse
Bit of a curt response but you can't have expected an informed response from the ticket office surely?
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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Some of you guys need to accept that we’re not a big club. You could describe us a “top six” side, but if so we would be number six on the list (probably number seven). Why would a so called “top manager” like JN consider us anything but a step down? That’s not a sensible career move on his part.

Because the PL is the biggest show in town and we're the only Top 6 job available.

Getting Spurs to 3rd took Poch from the level of Southampton to being offered the Real job.
 

Now it's Spursonal

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It will def be Slot at this point im sure. The fan is right tho and I’ve said as much in the past, they really struggle to break down low block teams as their attacking partners are quite one dimensional when not on a counter. Got to say having watched them a good bit I’m not as wild about his appointment as others are on here.

But regardless of Slot, one thing will be interesting is how any managers deals with adapting Porro and Udogie into FB in a back 4 when both their strengths are very much attacking. It was another big plus about Nagelsmann in that he was very versatile tactically and often plays 3 at the back. He is so much more tactically astute than Slot or any of the other managers we have been recently linked to.
A very high level creative midfielder will become a crucial signing if we’re going with Slot to make up for his issues breaking down a low block.
Also will probably need to sign a LB and RB to play in his system.

Makes for a very expensive window considering how crucial a new GK signing and new CB signing are already.
 

danny32

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Bayern have dropped off a cliff since he left.

Both Spurs and Chelsea have one thing in common. A chairman that wants to be in full control of everything even though they don't understand it all.

PR machine doing bits here.
Nagelsmann was sacked when Bayern were in second place trailing Dortmund by one point. They are now top by one point over Dortmund. That's not dropping off a cliff. They lost to Man City in the CL, probably against the team who are going to win it.
The main reason citied for Naglesmann's departure was believed to be player unrest and he had lost the dressing room.
I think there is more to his departure which we haven't heard about yet. We will see where he ends up as a barometer of his current standing.
 

THE SPURSBOY

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A very high level creative midfielder will become a crucial signing if we’re going with Slot to make up for his issues breaking down a low block.
Also will probably need to sign a LB and RB to play in his system.

Makes for a very expensive window considering how crucial a new GK signing and new CB signing are already.
Yeah I’m sure these high level players wanna come play for slot at spurs under levy lol
 
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