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McFlash

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He may be ITK, but I knew he was going then. I was being deadly serious. You rated funny and yet I knew it was happening. Apologies if I'm not a 'Verified' ITK.
Seeing as though you're not verified itk, can I ask how you knew?
I'm not asking for specifics but we recently had a member who "knew" that Zaniolo wouldn't leave Italy when in fact, he was going on what a mate had heard in the radio in Italy, which turned out to be bollocks.
Sadly, we do get a fair few people on here that claim to "know stuff", so you can understand why suspicion arises from such claims.
 

SpursJord

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Same way most ITK hear things I guess. I never said I know stuff, just knew this one particular thing from 2 or 3 people that is it really. I would never come on here and claim to know anything before anyone 'verifys' it as such. Today H88 did, didn't he? So this makes me right? I never even posted it as ITK, I only requoted it because A&C rated it Funny.
 

McFlash

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Same way most ITK hear things I guess. I never said I know stuff, just knew this one particular thing from 2 or 3 people that is it really. I would never come on here and claim to know anything before anyone 'verifys' it as such. Today H88 did, didn't he? So this makes me right? I never even posted it as ITK, I only requoted it because A&C rated it Funny.
I guess it depends on who those 2 or 3 people were, blokes down the pub or people actually involved somewhere in the game.
As I say, I'm not meaning to be overly critical of you here but we do get a lot of people making such statements that aren't based on any substantial foundation, just some no mark on twitter or some such.

That aside, if Conte really has decided that he's leaving at the end of the season, I don't really see any point in him still being here.
He may as well just go now because him staying isn't going to do us any favours.
 

SpursJord

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They won't sack him because it'll cost, he won't leave because he'll lose money and for that reason isn't it an easy solution to just try and do the best they can together? I'm not saying I like it or that it is the best option but it is one that works for both parties right now. I mean unless we go on a 4,5 or 6 game losing streak or something mad like that I expect it will likely stay the same for this reason.

I wouldn't come on here and show that I was right because I heard something from a couple of guys at a pub, that'd be downright silly. Look ultimately is doesn't matter to much because I don't pass stuff on. I made this one comment as I knew it was happening and that is it. Look at it this way H88 confirmed what I knew didn't he? I just pointed out mine was rated funny.
 

coy-spurs1882

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I mean , I highly doubt levy is gonna sack him and have to pay him off when they can both part ways in the summer.

As long as we're in the CL/FA cup he'll be here.

If we go out of those competitions, who knows.
with the disgraceful football we are playing can't see us going further in these competitions
 

McFlash

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They won't sack him because it'll cost, he won't leave because he'll lose money and for that reason isn't it an easy solution to just try and do the best they can together? I'm not saying I like it or that it is the best option but it is one that works for both parties right now. I mean unless we go on a 4,5 or 6 game losing streak or something mad like that I expect it will likely stay the same for this reason.

I wouldn't come on here and show that I was right because I heard something from a couple of guys at a pub, that'd be downright silly. Look ultimately is doesn't matter to much because I don't pass stuff on. I made this one comment as I knew it was happening and that is it. Look at it this way H88 confirmed what I knew didn't he? I just pointed out mine was rated funny.
That's cool mate but as has been said, the mods have verified H88's contacts but not yours, which is probably why you got that rating.

It's a shit situation really, with Conte because if it's common(ish) knowledge, then the players will know and with the already questionable mind-set that some of them have, they're likely to just cruise til then end now.

I'd much rather get the new guy in now and give him a few months to get his ideas across. Give him a proper pre-season and start afresh for next.
Feels like we're all going to be stuck in limbo for the next few months.
 

SpursJord

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Honestly on about Antonio Conte, I don't believe it was a coincidence that the game was far different Vs Man City as it was to the one against Leicester. Really feels like while he was in Italy and while I know he will have input still his lack of presence around the squad seem to raise them a little in my opinion. First week back, first game back we get battered and he waits until the 74th minute to make an unforced substitution. Weirdly at this point he admits defeat and brings on Royal and Sanchez as part of the trio I think it was of subs. It was already to late for that but what was he watching for that 74 minutes? Why not bring on Richy? Danjuma? Royal can feel hard done by to be dropped after arguably he best 2 games at the club. Son has been pretty poor all season but it doesn't matter because Antonio Conte doesn't seem to want to drop him.

These things will all just cause rifts and splits in the dressing room, so you are right it'd be better to just call it a day and basically try and move on forward. However, one final thing is who do they want to appoint? If we know Antonio Conte is leaving, this means they knew and are likely look at potential targets.

I have seen and heard from multiple Journalists Mauricio Pochettino could be an option as Daniel Levy loves him and we know this it is public knowledge. So if it is him why not just bite the bullet and do it now? He won't cost a penny.

We wanted Marcelo Gallardo before and he is a free agent so maybe he could be an option? Again only have to sort Antonio Contes salary out and bring him in.

Maybe it could be another manager, someone employed and can't come until summer which could be true and could be one of the reasons for the club to wait also, players and team don't gain a lot from playing under Ryan Mason for the rest of the season so hold off and go from there eh?

I don't ultimately know but these all seem like reasonable points to me.
 
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SpursJord

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I’d be very careful how you phrase things if I were you :D
Ha! That's funny. I don't think being Daniel Levys right hand man would make me any more aware of potential interest in Mauricio Pochettino :LOL: Also, I changed it because I have no basis to counter that point. I have not heard in the manner that may have applied :cautious:
 

jolsnogross

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Conte's departure, if it is set in stone, isn't a big deal because he hasn't done much to distinguish himself at Spurs. It's yet another example of Levy and whoever is the DoF at the time being unable to secure medium term upward mobility for the team. We sack achievers and act like non-achievers are doing us a favour at this club. We're all well aware of the long term and ongoing shambles of strategic (sporting) thinking at Spurs, and if you're a current or prospective player who'd like to compete and win things, then you'd think more than twice about staying or joining Spurs.

In the short term, it'll be a disgrace if Conte can't rouse himself to get a tune out of this squad for the rest of the season AND we stick with him through a turgid period of non-achievement. Or even non-performance. We've written off so many seasons in Levy's time it's untrue. As in we've had a stooge or dead man walking sit in the hot seat while Levy and friends worked out what to do next.

A decisive club would define a benchmark now for Conte (e.g. the coming 3-6 games) and have a plan ready to go if he doesn't hit the marks in that short period. We shouldn't just write this season off. But we probably will. And we'll likely do so without forethought to the off season and next season too.

At this point, change everywhere would be welcome. With the one exception of Harry Kane somehow signing a new contract...which at this point would reflect poorly on him!
 

Tim Riggins

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Just bring pochettino back. That man made me so proud to be a spurs fan while absolutely loving the watching every game win or loss since i knew we would play with our heart on the sleeves. Let him build a young hungry team willing to play with flair and without fear so we can enjoy the real tottenham way on the pitch instead of these last years of dull football.
 

sidford

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Unfortunately it's Levy who will be picking the next manager so despite his absolute failure with Jose, the Nuno debacle which anyone else would have been sacked over and then Conte who he was never going to give him what he wanted/ needed, the same lad will be picking the next manager.

No matter who he picks he won't step back from football side so the new manager has little chance of success so might as well keep this thread open permanently.
 

Pochemon94

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Unfortunately it's Levy who will be picking the next manager so despite his absolute failure with Jose, the Nuno debacle which anyone else would have been sacked over and then Conte who he was never going to give him what he wanted/ needed, the same lad will be picking the next manager.

No matter who he picks he won't step back from football side so the new manager has little chance of success so might as well keep this thread open permanently.
well its lookin like we will be rolling back the clock 5 years with poche coming back and paratici gone leaving us with levy and poche. Luckily history never repeats itself.... right?
 

DanielJohnCosta

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Not Poch for me incidentally.

He was great for us but that was in the past and we should be looking forwards, particularly considering his pretty abject performances at PSG.

I can't say I'm an avid watcher of Burnley, but Kompany apparently has them playing decent football and winning, is a young prospect and is also hugely respected in the game.

Someone like him would obviously be a gamble, but sod it I'm bored of paying over-inflated wages to chancers who have only ever purchased their way to success previously.
PSG is a shit show, doesn't matter who the manager is there the politics of the club will always destroy the manager.
 

Hotspur33

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Same as our fans saying Conte isn't getting the best of our players after qualifying for the CL against all odds though. I agree there are plenty of awful opinions out there but, I would rather listen to people who watch their team every week.

I also think Gallardo is the best fit.
I know nothing about Gallardo, what is he all about? Is he a bit like Bielsa?
 

SpursJord

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Gallardo is like another Pochettino I think. Never managed outside South America though. If we are looking for a natural fit it would be Ruben Amorim right? Young, has won trophy's and plays the exact same system.
 
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