New manager needs at least 3 Years says Ginola

[Azazello]

He deserves our support anyway and he should be given time provided that the trend is positive. Tighter defence, good work rate and team play as much as results. A good coach shouldn't need more than a season or two.

 

[Nocando]

This thread reinforces the notion that Poch wont last more two years because we will have a large portion of the fan base calling for his head. It's simply because of the high expectations of our fans, who have no grasp of reality and our relative position.

Keep burying your heads and then fan those flames in a few months time.

 

[Chris Flynn]

I think our current squad could finish in the top 10 without any manager, just the players taking turns to pick the team, so anything below that and i would be asking questions to be honest. However beyond he has my support for a few years

 

[SpursManChris]

I love how David (in that video in the BBC linked page) all of a sudden starts talking about Soldado, his 26 million pound price tag and how he only scores penalties!

 

[SpursManChris]

So would that same 68.1% support Poch if we finished a comfortable number of points outside of relegation, in 17th place, in a way which could not have been considered a dangerously close relegation fight?

 

[Mullers]

So would that same 68.1% support Poch if we finished a comfortable number of points outside of relegation, in 17th place, in a way which could not have been considered a dangerously close relegation fight?

I would.

 

[SpursManChris]

I would.

But Levy wouldn't, that's the problem. Levy out, Mullers in!

 

[Lufti]

I would.

Wow really? And what happens when our international players such as Lloris, Eriksen and Vertonghen want out and we're left negotiating transfers for Billy Sharp and Clint Hill? At least we've still got the same manager right?

 

[Mullers]

Wow really? And what happens when our international players such as Lloris, Eriksen and Vertonghen want out and we're left negotiating transfers for Billy Sharp and Clint Hill? At least we've still got the same manager right?

Keith Burkinshaw got us relegated in his first season in charge, we didn't win anything until 1981, now the guy is the second most successful spurs manager of all time.

 

[SpursManChris]

Keith Burkinshaw got us relegated in his first season in charge, we didn't win anything until 1981, now the guy is the second most successful spurs manager of all time.

And over 3 decades on, it's a slightly different game now, no?

 

[Lufti]

Keith Burkinshaw got us relegated in his first season in charge, we didn't win anything until 1981, now the guy is the second most successful spurs manager of all time.

That was before the Premiership was created. Nowa days it's very difficult to come back up and do well in the league, especially given the financial differences when dropping down to the Championship.

Also, that happened before I was born, so it doesn't count.

 

[panties]

I'm more than happy to give him time. Barring a Ramos style disaster anyway. Problem isn't me though...the problem is the few thousand "fans" who will throw their toys out the pram at the first hint of things not going well...

 

[Chris Flynn]

Keith Burkinshaw got us relegated in his first season in charge, we didn't win anything until 1981, now the guy is the second most successful spurs manager of all time.

for better or worse football has moved on a lot in the 30 years since, the highest change is back then we were picking from a pool of basically only British players which leveled the playing field somewhat. What Nottingham Forest did over the space of 4 years happen now due to money

 

[Mullers]

And over 3 decades on, it's a slightly different game now, no?

It is but that doesn't mean the chairman shouldn't get credit for sticking with him.

 

[biscuitbeck]

New manager needs at least 3 years, says Levy

 

[eViL]

I agree with Ginola.

 

[beats1]

It is but that doesn't mean the chairman shouldn't get credit for sticking with him.

True but its near impossible for a club a to be relegated and then promoted and make the top 6 for the next couple of seasons tbh

 

[Mullers]

That was before the Premiership was created. Nowa days it's very difficult to come back up and do well in the league, especially given the financial differences when dropping down to the Championship.

Also, that happened before I was born, so it doesn't count.

It's difficult but not impossible.

 

[Mullers]

True but its near impossible for a club a to be relegated and then promoted and make the top 6 for the next couple of seasons tbh

Newcastle did it in their second season back in the prem.

 

[SpursDave88]

The notion that managers need to be given time to be successful ie to improve the team has repeatedly been proven to be false. Almost no club in Europe keeps their manager for more than two years unless he is successful hence there is a silly confusion people have in terms of the way the causality works. Managers get long tenure because they are seen to be doing a good job, they don't do a good job because they are given a long contract/time. Pardew has an 8 year contract, Moyes was at Everton for a decade...meanwhile, Arsene won the double in his second season, Pelligrini won a double in his first, Ancelotti won the double in his first season as Chelsea, Rafa got Chelsea back in the top four and won a trophy in his first season, Simeone improved Atletico every year, culminating in this years title win, Ancelotti won the CL in his first year at Real Madrid.

Basically if they meet or exceed expectations they are doing a good enough job and deserve another season.

For us, par is a top six finish with a challenge for a CL place, less than that you are out, more than that you get an extension.

It really is as simple as that. If you are unable to achieve this, you either change the playing staff or the manager, one is considerably cheaper than the other.