Jose Mourinho

[ajspurs]

I agree mate and Jose has a knack of getting us over the line, I suppose with his style of play a big man up top is pretty essential so for us to not have any strikers on the books available right now is making our attacking play quite hard to watch as it’s not suited to how Jose wants to play.

agree with all your points mate and I’m still optimistic it’s just very hard to watch recently. So so glad we got the win, if we’d lost that the knives would’ve been out.

Yeah I agree too mate, it's not enjoyable to watch at all but I've accepted that we've just got a lot of work to do. Of course the injuries don't help but to be fair we've played equally or almost equally as bad with most players fit too.

I just hope that Jose gets what he needs to play how he wants. If we're still churning out such performances after that then I'd worry more but I think we have to realise that this is a somewhat broken team and it's going to take a little while to build back up. Hopefully sooner rather than later!

 

[Cochise]

Using Eriksen until he's sold isn't too bad in my book. We're not keeping him on the shelf gathering dust, we are making him earn his wage and make him push Inter to sort things out.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Yeah I agree too mate, it's not enjoyable to watch at all but I've accepted that we've just got a lot of work to do. Of course the injuries don't help but to be fair we've played equally or almost equally as bad with most players fit too.

I just hope that Jose gets what he needs to play how he wants. If we're still churning out such performances after that then I'd worry more but I think we have to realise that this is a somewhat broken team and it's going to take a little while to build back up. Hopefully sooner rather than later!

Spot on

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I think the style of play is there to see, it’s not pretty granted but there is a clear defensive and offensive shape.

I’d say sessengon aside today were starting to cut out individual errors and look more solid especially from defending set pieces where under poch we were useless. Liverpool game was very solid, I compare that to poch’s last two games against Liverpool and man.city where we should’ve lost both about 5-0 so some improvement there.

Don’t think Jose has fallen out with any players apart from possibly Danny rose who can fuck off anyway. Lucas, Lamela and Toby have all sung Jose’s praises recently.

Tanganga being given a chance was good, and GLC is hitting some form.

We’ve also had a shit ton of injuries and squad clearly needs majorly upgrading anyway which is on Levy to now back Jose for the rest of this window and summer.

So those are the positives and the plan but yes the football going forwards is pretty dire and not good to watch, I think Jose’s intended style very much requires a target man his teams have always had one a la Drogba, Costa, Ibrahimovic etc, our best performances under Jose were against West Ham and Burnley yes both of those teams are shit but we also had Kane and sissoko playing who very much suit Jose’s style.

I’m undecided on Jose but he’s come in mid season to a team in awful form and low on confidence so let’s see how he does next year with a pre season, players back fit and HOPEFULLY some new signings, i think the squad management or miss management is the bigger issue not Jose.

It’s criminal to only have one striker on your books, no Sunday league teams only have one striker never mind the top top teams in Europe who all have 1-2 good back up options so that needs to be addressed ASAP and we go from there.

Big game this weekend now

COYS.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It's true, yet we still miss the player that he was. We really struggle to create meaningful chances against teams that defend in numbers. We've never learnt to do it without Eriksen and with the lack of a striker now, we're struggling even more than usual.

I agree with others, we're tough to watch right now. It's reminiscent of the AVB days for me, only we don't have Bale and we don't generally dominate the ball either.

Nothing like AVB’s style of play mate, equally boring perhaps but a completely different style and I think to be fair to him Jose is hamstrung by injuries and a lack of striking options without Kane and he really needs a target man for the way he wants to play so if we sign one and once Kane is back I think we’ll see a different team.

something like this would be pretty tasty:

hugo

aurier/new RB
Toby
Jan\Sanchez
Davies or sess

Ndombele or new DM
GLC or Gedson

Lamela or Lucas or Sissoko
Dele or Lamela or GLC
Son or new AM

Kane or new ST

We aren’t too far off a top quality team we probably need 3-4 signings between now and start of next season and we need injured players back, that + a pre season under Jose I think we could be strong next season.

 

[KikoSpurs]

I've got a bit annoyed today during the match. The amount of long balls we were playing were too much.

We had Lo Celso, Gedson, Eriksen, Alli and no one could play from the back ?

 

[spursfan77]

I agree mate and Jose has a knack of getting us over the line, I suppose with his style of play a big man up top is pretty essential so for us to not have any strikers on the books available right now is making our attacking play quite hard to watch as it’s not suited to how Jose wants to play.

agree with all your points mate and I’m still optimistic it’s just very hard to watch recently. So so glad we got the win, if we’d lost that the knives would’ve been out.

if that’s the case then some of our fans would need to take a good look at themselves. The players are trying now. They weren’t under Poch. Tonight showed they kept running till the very end closing down players. They didn’t do that for Poch at all this season.

The supporters need to support. It was embarrassingly quiet in the stadium yet again tonight. No different to when we played them at the old place though I suppose.

 

[S17PUR]

Nothing like AVB’s style of play mate, equally boring perhaps but a completely different style and I think to be fair to him Jose is hamstrung by injuries and a lack of striking options without Kane and he really needs a target man for the way he wants to play so if we sign one and once Kane is back I think we’ll see a different team.

something like this would be pretty tasty:

hugo

aurier/new RB
Toby
Jan\Sanchez
Davies or sess

Ndombele or new DM
GLC or Gedson

Lamela or Lucas or Sissoko
Dele or Lamela or GLC
Son or new AM

Kane or new ST

We aren’t too far off a top quality team we probably need 3-4 signings between now and start of next season and we need injured players back, that + a pre season under Jose I think we could be strong next season.

Oh yeah, it's not the same style of play but it promotes the same level of apathy within me.

Hopefully once we get GLC and Ndombele in the middle together that'll bring some more excitement at least. I think those two alongside a good, mobile DM and we could be in business, although I struggle to see how Dele fits if both of those two start alongside a DM.

 

[jay2040]

I think we lack that cohesion as a team that we used to have where players would instinctively know where each other is and the quick movement.

I think we have the best man for the job to get us trophies and I'm at the point now where I'd be happy for a trophy first over the style of football. Sadly it seems the players seem content with the CL final as there is little hunger or desire in the old guard since and time for them to move on .

Agree with lots of the comments that under Poch we may not have won this with the performance we had .

 

[Gspurs11]

Mourinho has inherited a squad that we all know is ailing and in desperate need of a belated overhaul. I'm more than willing to give him and his team the benefit of the doubt until next season when they can fully get their players in (fingers crossed) and a chance to develop Mourinho 2.0 football.

 

[Dillspur]

I've got a bit annoyed today during the match. The amount of long balls we were playing were too much.

We had Lo Celso, Gedson, Eriksen, Alli and no one could play from the back ?

2nd half maybe, but Norwich pressed more aggressively then, I thought we were smart with the long ball, us failing to mix it up in the past has just invited pressure.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Was hoping for much more today, not going to lie.

I think it just shows how much of a job Jose has on his hands. Putting expectation aside there are still some positives to take and build on, but that goal was vital. That's how tight the margins are.

Serious confidence issues at both ends of the pitch is making games a grind. Not something you can fix overnight sadly. Combined with clear fitness issues IMO, although I think we're starting to see those level out a bit more. I do think we have seen some defensive improvements in recent weeks. Hopefully Son and Dele can build on their goals too. We just need a bit of luck to help regain that confidence.

Son fires in one of his half chances for 2-0 and we likely go from strength to strength. That just isn't happening currently. All four attackers are out of form currently, not only in terms of finishing but also creating chances for others. Such poor decision making.

I didn't have too many complaints first half. We tried to play and counter-pressed well when we had the chance. Second half was a mess, and Jose did not help with his subs. Dier is so immobile in midfield it's scary, I genuinely think he took Jan off to avoid having to sub Dier (although Jan looked like a weak point against Pukki anyway). Then Eriksen after. We were all over the place. Seemed to get back on it after the Gedson sub and thankfully got the win. Hopefully they'll be phased out more and more going forward.

Still some definite improvements on most of 2019s PL games under Poch for me. I'm seeing more effort and more focus at least. I'm surprised people have seemingly forgotten how bad it got.

Lo Celso is looking a real player. The thought of getting him and Ndombele settled and playing gives me hope for the new Spurs. Since Lo Celso has played I feel the hoofball has reduced a bit compared to the Xmas period. When both get on the pitch I think we will be a good watch again.

It's impossible not to have doubts right now but I really want to believe in Mourinho. We won't see what he really wants us to look like until next season. I don't think he's a busted flush. He's not en vogue but he's a very intelligent man with an unbelievable CV. Levy does have to give him the tools however.

Finally it was good to see Lloris and Sonny rubbish the Sun reports when speaking to Sky.

 

[Twizzle]

horrible game last night, lost all our structure that we had, long hoofs when we have some decent ball playing midfielders are not really necessary imo cuz we just give away possession

would much rather see us play the possession game and work it up the pitch, surely that game last night is not what Jose wants

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Was hoping for much more today, not going to lie.

I think it just shows how much of a job Jose has on his hands. Putting expectation aside there are still some positives to take and build on, but that goal was vital. That's how tight the margins are.

Serious confidence issues at both ends of the pitch is making games a grind. Not something you can fix overnight sadly. Combined with clear fitness issues IMO, although I think we're starting to see those level out a bit more. I do think we have seen some defensive improvements in recent weeks. Hopefully Son and Dele can build on their goals too. We just need a bit of luck to help regain that confidence.

Son fires in one of his half chances for 2-0 and we likely go from strength to strength. That just isn't happening currently. All four attackers are out of form currently, not only in terms of finishing but also creating chances for others. Such poor decision making.

I didn't have too many complaints first half. We tried to play and counter-pressed well when we had the chance. Second half was a mess, and Jose did not help with his subs. Dier is so immobile in midfield it's scary, I genuinely think he took Jan off to avoid having to sub Dier (although Jan looked like a weak point against Pukki anyway). Then Eriksen after. We were all over the place. Seemed to get back on it after the Gedson sub and thankfully got the win. Hopefully they'll be phased out more and more going forward.

Still some definite improvements on most of 2019s PL games under Poch for me. I'm seeing more effort and more focus at least. I'm surprised people have seemingly forgotten how bad it got.

Lo Celso is looking a real player. The thought of getting him and Ndombele settled and playing gives me hope for the new Spurs. Since Lo Celso has played I feel the hoofball has reduced a bit compared to the Xmas period. When both get on the pitch I think we will be a good watch again.

It's impossible not to have doubts right now but I really want to believe in Mourinho. We won't see what he really wants us to look like until next season. I don't think he's a busted flush. He's not en vogue but he's a very intelligent man with an unbelievable CV. Levy does have to give him the tools however.

Finally it was good to see Lloris and Sonny rubbish the Sun reports when speaking to Sky.

All super sensible stuff. I agree with this.

There's a massive rebuilding job needed. Some of the tools we have, some we don't.

Do we have the manager? Literally no idea. It would surprise me if the approach to tactics, training etc. had changed so dramatically in the last decade that one of the best managers in world was now 'yesterday's man'. He can surround himself with 'new' coaches, which essentially he has (I'd guess). But we're serving up some absolute dross at the moment and there's little getting away from it. The reason for optimism is because really, it's been like this for a long time and maybe the rebuild was greater than anyone (including him) imagined.

He'll need some more fresh blood though. And only when he's had a chance to improve the squad and spend time with them can we really judge him.

I imagine he'll definitely want, at least:
- A DM: without which some of our better players (Ndombele, GLC) won't flourish
- Support for Harry: If he insists on playing a target man, HK needs support from the squad
- an AM: We badly miss someone who can run with the ball at their feet...and actually know when to pass. We have plenty of the former, but none of the latter
- A defender: you could make an argument for a LB, CB or RB frankly. At least Tanganga has helped the load here...a bit anyway

Until he has that, we're going to continue to be average

 

[Johnny J]

It's true, yet we still miss the player that he was. We really struggle to create meaningful chances against teams that defend in numbers. We've never learnt to do it without Eriksen and with the lack of a striker now, we're struggling even more than usual.

I agree with others, we're tough to watch right now. It's reminiscent of the AVB days for me, only we don't have Bale and we don't generally dominate the ball either.

When we get a DM and Ndombele is fit, I think (hope) GLC will move into Eriksen's role and create more.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Was hoping for much more today, not going to lie.

I think it just shows how much of a job Jose has on his hands. Putting expectation aside there are still some positives to take and build on, but that goal was vital. That's how tight the margins are.

Serious confidence issues at both ends of the pitch is making games a grind. Not something you can fix overnight sadly. Combined with clear fitness issues IMO, although I think we're starting to see those level out a bit more. I do think we have seen some defensive improvements in recent weeks. Hopefully Son and Dele can build on their goals too. We just need a bit of luck to help regain that confidence.

Son fires in one of his half chances for 2-0 and we likely go from strength to strength. That just isn't happening currently. All four attackers are out of form currently, not only in terms of finishing but also creating chances for others. Such poor decision making.

I didn't have too many complaints first half. We tried to play and counter-pressed well when we had the chance. Second half was a mess, and Jose did not help with his subs. Dier is so immobile in midfield it's scary, I genuinely think he took Jan off to avoid having to sub Dier (although Jan looked like a weak point against Pukki anyway). Then Eriksen after. We were all over the place. Seemed to get back on it after the Gedson sub and thankfully got the win. Hopefully they'll be phased out more and more going forward.

Still some definite improvements on most of 2019s PL games under Poch for me. I'm seeing more effort and more focus at least. I'm surprised people have seemingly forgotten how bad it got.

Lo Celso is looking a real player. The thought of getting him and Ndombele settled and playing gives me hope for the new Spurs. Since Lo Celso has played I feel the hoofball has reduced a bit compared to the Xmas period. When both get on the pitch I think we will be a good watch again.

It's impossible not to have doubts right now but I really want to believe in Mourinho. We won't see what he really wants us to look like until next season. I don't think he's a busted flush. He's not en vogue but he's a very intelligent man with an unbelievable CV. Levy does have to give him the tools however.

Finally it was good to see Lloris and Sonny rubbish the Sun reports when speaking to Sky.

Agree with this. I've been vocal about not being a fan of Jose's style of football but I do feel we have been trying to play more football in the last 3-4 games. Not being able to start Sissoko and Dier together certainly helps that.

There is definitely still a disconnect between midfield and the attacking four though.The front four just have no clue how to press and get played through so easily that it leaves the midfield 2 constantly swimming against the tide. At our best under Poch there was a clear plan to cut off passing lanes to the opposition, now we just seem to run towards whoever has the ball and get easily bypassed and thefore end up on the back foot.

Overall I feel like we're moving in the right direction but PAINFULLY slowly.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

if that’s the case then some of our fans would need to take a good look at themselves. The players are trying now. They weren’t under Poch. Tonight showed they kept running till the very end closing down players. They didn’t do that for Poch at all this season.

The supporters need to support. It was embarrassingly quiet in the stadium yet again tonight. No different to when we played them at the old place though I suppose.

Yea agree with that mate our fans have become a bit ‘privaledged’ so to speak.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Oh yeah, it's not the same style of play but it promotes the same level of apathy within me.

Hopefully once we get GLC and Ndombele in the middle together that'll bring some more excitement at least. I think those two alongside a good, mobile DM and we could be in business, although I struggle to see how Dele fits if both of those two start alongside a DM.

Got ya, yea agree with that buddy

 

[mrlilywhite]

Hopefully, this from sky sports with player quotes should dispel the "alleged" unrest with Jose at the club - https://www.skysports.com/football/...oris-says-tottenham-squad-in-positive-spirits
Glad to hear this & lets hope we can get poison players like Rose out of this club!!

 

[yido_number1]

Not sure if anyone has seen it but last night Mourinho seemed to making a clear message to the board that we need a back up striker and more options in the forward line. If anyone hasn't seen it it was on the sky app.

He said he looked to the bench and we have no options and then went on about how City have Aguero and bought Jesus, Chelsea had bought Batshuay etc. It seemed to be a clear statement of are we a big club or not and if we are we need to sign the players.

Either way hopefully Levy was and is listening and will bring in some reinforcements.