Joško Gvardiol

[djhotspur]

Surely even if we pay up this guy will have his pick of the world's best clubs. Can't see it happening at all.

I would imagine so. That is a very big release clause though

 

[Finchyid]

I would imagine so. That is a very big release clause though

can we pay it 100 annual instalments

 

[kannanmothalali]

Close this thread. He ain't coming here. Lmao.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Leipzig wouldn't let him go in Jan even if we did trigger his release clause. They're not letting Nkunku sign for Chelsea until the summer his release clause was already triggered at the end of the last transfer window.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

If we really do intend to go for him, he is one target i think we only get if QSI invest. There's no other way we will compete with Chelsea or whichever financially doped team go for him

 

[heinsmit]

Leipzig wouldn't let him go in Jan even if we did trigger his release clause. They're not letting Nkunku sign for Chelsea until the summer his release clause was already triggered at the end of the last transfer window.

Not on top of the details here but that can't be right. The release clause is a contractual obligation to agree to sell the player in the event a bid of that value (in cash up front) is made. If Chelsea made that offer up front Leipzig wouldn't have a choice but to accept the bid. There must have been concessions - Leipzig say they will accept instalments if Chelsea wait until the summer, for example.

 

[chrisd2k]

£98m... Have some of you lost your minds?

 

[SpartanSpur]

If we really do intend to go for him, he is one target i think we only get if QSI invest. There's no other way we will compete with Chelsea or whichever financially doped team go for him

Think the Mudryk/Trossard situation puts a target like this into interesting light.

Due to their ages and the terms of each players deals both players are going to be amortised at approximately £10m a season for the next 3-4 years. Trossard probably commanding a similar if not higher wage too.

Gvardiol is young enough to be offered a long term deal like that. We'd 100% need QSI to have any chance though.

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

Honestly. Isn’t a mission we’d offer the money or that he would come to us. Pie in the sky. Look for defenders out of favour at mid table Italian clubs - that’s our market.

 

[kd2000]

Not on top of the details here but that can't be right. The release clause is a contractual obligation to agree to sell the player in the event a bid of that value (in cash up front) is made. If Chelsea made that offer up front Leipzig wouldn't have a choice but to accept the bid. There must have been concessions - Leipzig say they will accept instalments if Chelsea wait until the summer, for example.

If I am not mistaken the clause didnt become active until summer 2023 and Chelsea got in there early agreeing a deal for summer 2023.
Smart business from Leipzig really as anything could happen between now and then such as a massive drop off in form, personal problems, injury etc

 

[Japhet]

£98m... Have some of you lost your minds?

Isn't that roughly what we've paid for Sanchez, Emerson, Rodon and Sessegnon?

 

[Dakes]

Isn't that roughly what we've paid for Sanchez, Emerson, Rodon and Sessegnon?

That's the problem, we are prepared to buy the Sanchez and Rodon types but we won't splash on excellence. We'll rather buy two 40m players than one 80m one

We need owners who are prepared to do the latter

 

[S17PUR]

Is there actually anything in the QSI rumours or is it the Google stadium talk all over again? This just feels like such an unlikely transfer on so many levels. Aside from the finances, why would he choose to join us, given the more successful clubs and lucrative contract offers he'll get in the summer.

We're all clinging to it because we so desperately need top quality reinforcements at the back and signing a couple of players at his level could be transformative for us, but this just seems beyond us at this stage.

 

[smithym]

If everyone stopped popping into the thread to say either "Not going to happen" or "Only happens with QSI" that' would be swell.
Pointless contributions and needlessly bumping the thread.

We need him, sure, but we also need Neymar/Bellingham/VVD.

 

[Japhet]

That's the problem, we are prepared to buy the Sanchez and Rodon types but we won't splash on excellence. We'll rather buy two 40m players than one 80m one

We need owners who are prepared to do the latter

My comment was a bit 'tongue in cheek' to be honest. When we bought those players we didn't have the infrastructure to support top quality. We should now be able to generate the income to support top quality signings and wage demands but the question is, can Levy find it within himself to release his vice like grip on the club's cash? He has backed Conte (and Nuno) with signings like Romero who is probably our most high profile acquisition having been voted Serie A best defender, and also Kulusevski, Bentancur, Richarlison, Bissouma and Udogie but hasn't yet 'gone big' on any super stars. I suppose this current window is being quite badly tainted by the frankly ludicrous spending of Todd Boehly who will probably offer something stupid for Gvardiol too, but I don't really see that as a reflection on Levy but more of an illustration of just how ridiculous football has become. As I said in a different thread, he is really playing no limits poker, with a finite budget, against others who have no limits at all.

 

[carpediem991]

That's the problem, we are prepared to buy the Sanchez and Rodon types but we won't splash on excellence. We'll rather buy two 40m players than one 80m one

We need owners who are prepared to do the latter

Not necessarily. In my books Deki was a good buy for 40 m and Bentancur for 20 m, while the 60m Ndombele solution was a disgrace. We need to identify the right talent fitting to the clubs vision and managers philosophy. Our recruitment before last January window was for a long time a disaster.

 

[Dakes]

Not necessarily. In my books Deki was a good buy for 40 m and Bentancur for 20 m, while the 60m Ndombele solution was a disgrace. We need to identify the right talent fitting to the clubs vision and managers philosophy. Our recruitment before last January window was for a long time a disaster.

I agree, but my comment was more about situations like the Gvardiol one, where the need in the squad is for very good defenders and Gvardiol is one of the best out there, but, because of his price tag, we would instead buy a few lesser players that would in any case add up to what he's worth rather than buy him. Levy will never sanction a 98m deal, even if it'll significantly boost the first 11 we put out on the pitch. We would never do a VdV+Alisson type deal let alone buy one of that calibre.

 

[jpascavitz]

I really wish we would just pay up for once and secure this guy. Imagine a defence of Porro Romero NEW CB Gvardiol Udogie. It could completely transform us and give the midfield and attackers more confidence to express themselves.

It really is irritating, isn't it? We can all see how it would change us!

When you look at current events and what we can see from the outside - you can likely get Gvardiol and Skriniar/De vrij, which instantly next to Romero, is a title challenging backline for around 125-150 million. Yes, a lot of money, maybe even impossible to convince them to come, but screams a very similar situation to what Lpool did when they signed Van Dijk and in today's market - that's a steal for me.

Gvardiol/Davies - Skriniar or De Vrij/Lenglet - Romero/Dier instantly changes the worst part of your team into the strength.

 

[JCRD]

That's the problem, we are prepared to buy the Sanchez and Rodon types but we won't splash on excellence. We'll rather buy two 40m players than one 80m one

We need owners who are prepared to do the latter

I agree if we only needed one of those defenders but we need two.

A rwb - id go 40-60m for example because we essentially need one of them. Id do the same with a striker on a system we play. We cant go out and spend 300m on a back line and we do need the entire back line (bar one) replaced. Ofcourse we will bring in money from sales and I suspect a bit more than 100m for all the players needing to be sold (not including Kane)

 

[chrisd2k]

Isn't that roughly what we've paid for Sanchez, Emerson, Rodon and Sessegnon?

Up front to activate the release? The fact this is winnered by some answers my original question