Joško Gvardiol

[spursfan77]

Looks like Chelsea are going for Ake. I assume that takes them out of the running for Gvardiol but also probably gives City the ability to gazump any offer we could make for him this summer or next.

That would put Laporte on the market ?

 

[Trix]

There was that guy from transfermarkt as well unless that’s the same bloke.

Don't know, but it's common place nowadays for one journalist to say something and others just jump on the band waggon. The interest is very real though and we have been talking. Maybe it's the agent getting a better deal for his player at RBL? Guess we will see soon enough. Still not given up on Bastoni either.

 

[Duskwen]

The Bastoni one is interesting. I guess we probably already have a fee settled and terms with the player, so guess we have to wait to see if PSG stall or don't match the Skriniar fee and Inter panic and come back to us

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Don't know, but it's common place nowadays for one journalist to say something and others just jump on the band waggon. The interest is very real though and we have been talking. Maybe it's the agent getting a better deal for his player at RBL? Guess we will see soon enough. Still not given up on Bastoni either.

Interesting. I'd be pretty surprised if we ended up with either.

I just hope that, in trying to reach for the stars (Gvardiol, Bastoni), we don't end up missing the moon (Bremer + Lenglet) - which would still improve our squad a lot and is likely much more realistic.

 

[spursfan77]

If this guy is hard to prise out then it has gone pretty quiet on Pau Torres. Although Gold mentions him this morning for the first time in ages as being the next option. Maybe that’s not dead?

The next name of interest would be Villarreal's Pau Torres. The Spaniard turned down a move to Tottenham last summer, but the north London club are a different proposition this year with Conte at the helm and Champions League football to offer while Barcelona's Clement Lenglet, who turned down a loan move to Spurs last summer, is another option for the left and centrally and is believed to be available on loan again.

 

[spursfast]

The Bastoni one is interesting. I guess we probably already have a fee settled and terms with the player, so guess we have to wait to see if PSG stall or don't match the Skriniar fee and Inter panic and come back to us

that's the point .. we gotta hang in there 24h max, once this is done everything else will fall into place

 

[Trix]

If this guy is hard to prise out then it has gone pretty quiet on Pau Torres. Although Gold mentions him this morning for the first time in ages as being the next option. Maybe that’s not dead?

The next name of interest would be Villarreal's Pau Torres. The Spaniard turned down a move to Tottenham last summer, but the north London club are a different proposition this year with Conte at the helm and Champions League football to offer while Barcelona's Clement Lenglet, who turned down a loan move to Spurs last summer, is another option for the left and centrally and is believed to be available on loan again.

I've said from day one I thought this would be the guy we end up with. That is based purely on who we'd be dealing with, the fact they want players from us, and the ease of doing this deal compared to others.

 

[SpartanSpur]

I've said from day one I thought this would be the guy we end up with. That is based purely on who we'd be dealing with, the fact they want players from us, and the ease of doing this deal compared to others.

At this point I'm really not sure why we don't go for Torres. He's excellent on the ball and the LCB role is likely made for him to give him more cover defensively. Villarreal have had two deep European runs built on solidity with him as a key part of it so he's no mug. Utd seem to be targeting LIsandro Martinez instead now (along with Arsenal) so it would be a good time to swoop.

 

[djhotspur]

At this point I'm really not sure why we don't go for Torres. He's excellent on the ball and the LCB role is likely made for him to give him more cover defensively. Villarreal have had two deep European runs built on solidity with him as a key part of it so he's no mug. Utd seem to be targeting LIsandro Martinez instead now (along with Arsenal) so it would be a good time to swoop.

Because he’s our 3rd choice LCB apparently, so we are exhausting the first 2 before we pull the trigger. I would imagine this deal moved quickly if we do pull the trigger.
We know the bastoni deal relies upon skriniar and a deadline, so we have some time to play with there, and I’m guessing with gvardiol we are speaking to his agent and him to see if he will come here then we’ll decide if we pay the fee that leibzig will demand as I think they are easy to deal with because they don’t negotiate. So if they say 80m that’s the price and we either pay it or don’t do it may be a quick sale if so.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Because he’s our 3rd choice LCB apparently, so we are exhausting the first 2 before we pull the trigger. I would imagine this deal moved quickly if we do pull the trigger.
We know the bastoni deal relies upon skriniar and a deadline, so we have some time to play with there, and I’m guessing with gvardiol we are speaking to his agent and him to see if he will come here then we’ll decide if we pay the fee that leibzig will demand as I think they are easy to deal with because they don’t negotiate. So if they say 80m that’s the price and we either pay it or don’t do it may be a quick sale if so.

True. I guess we should know pretty soon on Bastoni. There would be a concern of Utd if we wait too long and they miss out on one of the two Ajax defenders though, Spanish info suggested he preferred the move there.

 

[djhotspur]

True. I guess we should know pretty soon on Bastoni. There would be a concern of Utd if we wait too long and they miss out on one of the two Ajax defenders though, Spanish info suggested he preferred the move there.

Yeah good point. We’ll see, I won’t panic until itk panic. Like you said, I think on the other 2 deals we’ll know quickly and will move on quickly if we know they’re dead.
I do wonder why we don’t want ndicka, we got told by @Hercules there were talks but it went super quiet from there.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Yeah good point. We’ll see, I won’t panic until itk panic. Like you said, I think on the other 2 deals we’ll know quickly and will move on quickly if we know they’re dead.
I do wonder why we don’t want ndicka, we got told by @Hercules there were talks but it went super quiet from there.

Yeah I like the look of him. Would be very happy if we went for that as he seems to have big upside but also a good price, therefore giving more budget to other areas.

 

[spursfan77]

I've said from day one I thought this would be the guy we end up with. That is based purely on who we'd be dealing with, the fact they want players from us, and the ease of doing this deal compared to others.

I have been thinking for the last few days how quiet this has gone, but it has with him going to Man U too, so maybe he’s just taking his holidays and relaxing. Whilst not wanting to jinx it and mention him but saying Gold has I caved in.

I heard Charlie Eccleshare say that despite Villarreal going to the CL semis they were struggling to put a deal together for him finance wise. So surely there has to be a deal there to be done somehow.

Maybe while the player is waiting, so are we, to see what happens at inter. At some point though we will need to be the proactive ones (if we aren’t already behind the scenes).

 

[spursfan77]

True. I guess we should know pretty soon on Bastoni. There would be a concern of Utd if we wait too long and they miss out on one of the two Ajax defenders though, Spanish info suggested he preferred the move there.

I agree with both you and @djhotspur we can see where the dominos are set up on the targets that are out in the public now. We just need one to get over the line and the rest might follow.

 

[chrisd2k]

Because it's a release clause not a "buy now" figure.
If someone offers £43 there's nothing to stop someone else offering £50 and so on, RB can accept a higher offer.

No. They have to accept both. Nobody would bid over that figure. Why would they?

 

[worcestersauce]

Why would a club offer £50m when Leipzig would have to accept an offer of £43m?

I don’t think you understand how release clauses work…

No one should be offering 50m for a player has a 43m release clause, it makes no sense

...why would someone offer £50m when the release clause is £43m?

Please make it make sense

You could but that would be stupid. If we offered £50m and Bayern £43m he could still choose to go to them and RB couldn't stop it.

No. They have to accept both. Nobody would bid over that figure. Why would they?

Perhaps because someone offered £43m so someone else offered £48m and so another club offered £50m. There isn't a rule that you have to accept the first offer of £43m only that if it is the only offer.
Of course he course insist on going to the club that offered the £43m but it is just as unlikely that he won't.
I do realise that if everyone offers £43m he can choose but if RB want to sell to the highest bidder and he's ok with that then that's how it goes.
If Arsenal offered £43 and we offered £45 are people suggesting RB would not sell to us because we didn't offer the clause amount?

 

[SpartanSpur]

Perhaps because someone offered £43m so someone else offered £48m and so another club offered £50m. There isn't a rule that you have to accept the first offer of £43m only that if it is the only offer.
Of course he course insist on going to the club that offered the £43m but it is just as unlikely that he won't.
I do realise that if everyone offers £43m he can choose but if RB want to sell to the highest bidder and he's ok with that then that's how it goes.
If Arsenal offered £43 and we offered £45 are people suggesting RB would not sell to us because we didn't offer the clause amount?

If the release clause is £43m then they have to accept £43m. It genuinely is a 'buy it now' price as per eBay terms.

Look at the Upamecano deal to Bayern.

 

[Duskwen]

Perhaps because someone offered £43m so someone else offered £48m and so another club offered £50m. There isn't a rule that you have to accept the first offer of £43m only that if it is the only offer.
Of course he course insist on going to the club that offered the £43m but it is just as unlikely that he won't.
I do realise that if everyone offers £43m he can choose but if RB want to sell to the highest bidder and he's ok with that then that's how it goes.
If Arsenal offered £43 and we offered £45 are people suggesting RB would not sell to us because we didn't offer the clause amount?

No people are saying we would be dumb to bid 45m cause it makes no difference to RB or the player. We would match the 43m as that is what's needed and then convince the player to join us in your scenario

 

[WiganSpur]

I've said from day one I thought this would be the guy we end up with. That is based purely on who we'd be dealing with, the fact they want players from us, and the ease of doing this deal compared to others.

I think we're waiting until Bastoni is 100% off the table and as a backup we are still deliberating whether to move for Torres or bring in Lenglet on loan and spend the extra cash elsewhere.

 

[mark87]

Perhaps because someone offered £43m so someone else offered £48m and so another club offered £50m. There isn't a rule that you have to accept the first offer of £43m only that if it is the only offer.
Of course he course insist on going to the club that offered the £43m but it is just as unlikely that he won't.
I do realise that if everyone offers £43m he can choose but if RB want to sell to the highest bidder and he's ok with that then that's how it goes.
If Arsenal offered £43 and we offered £45 are people suggesting RB would not sell to us because we didn't offer the clause amount?

A release clause is a set fee that if someone offered said amount the selling club have to accept, it's as simple as that. If a club offered £45m and another club offered £43m then Leipzig stll have to accept the £43m offer as it has met the players release clause value.