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It's the Euros 2020! Finals Match Thread: It’s gone to Rome…

Winner Euros 2020

  • England

    Votes: 64 21.6%
  • Belgium

    Votes: 14 4.7%
  • France

    Votes: 98 33.1%
  • Germany

    Votes: 13 4.4%
  • Italy

    Votes: 81 27.4%
  • Portugal

    Votes: 13 4.4%
  • Netherlands

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 11 3.7%

  • Total voters
    296

mark87

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Nov 29, 2004
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Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
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I think people are going over the top with the pile on Belgium and Martinez. They went out because they aren't good enough not because they are golden but badly coached.
Their back five were Mounier, Toby, Vermalon, Yan and Hazard T none of whom would make the England team, Toby maybe an outside chance but even Yan is past his best. Witsel, Tielemans and Doku? No and Hazard E would have been a banker but is a shadow of his former self so just Lukaku and de Bruyne in contention then. Sadly for Belgium age has caught up with them.
Agree. As I said yesterday, 2016 was their tournament to win, virtually every player was in or approaching their prime and they had a plum draw for the knockouts.

Then they lost to Wales.

It's sad for that Belgian generation that they've been managed by Wilmots and Martinez, and Wilmots did by far the worst job of the two.
 

spurs mental

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Mar 10, 2007
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Raising money? Give it to charity straight away, not a girl who's family is priveledged enough to travel Europe watching football.
I mean the abuse she suffered. If I've taken your post up the wrong way then that's my fault
 

hughy

I'm SUPER cereal.
Nov 18, 2007
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I mean the abuse she suffered. If I've taken your post up the wrong way then that's my fault
I wasn't too fussed about the cheers in the first place, and fully condemn any subsequent abuse she has suffered (to be honest I'm not fully aware of it as I don't use mainstream social media), but my issue is some random Welsh bloke feeling the need to raise money for her to show that "not all people from the UK are bad".

I just don't see the point. If you're going to raise money, give it to a worthwhile charity.
 

Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
40,189
63,965
I wasn't too fussed about the cheers in the first place, and fully condemn any subsequent abuse she has suffered (to be honest I'm not fully aware of it as I don't use mainstream social media), but my issue is some random Welsh bloke feeling the need to raise money for her to show that "not all people from the UK are bad".

I just don't see the point. If you're going to raise money, give it to a worthwhile charity.
Well you could've posted this in the first place because your initial post makes it look like you're siding with the thumb-looking twats who felt the need to abuse her.
 

hughy

I'm SUPER cereal.
Nov 18, 2007
31,922
57,124
Well you could've posted this in the first place because your initial post makes it look like you're siding with the thumb-looking twats who felt the need to abuse her.
On reflection I see what you mean. :shy:
 

easley91

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Jan 27, 2011
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And now KdB might miss at least all of preseason, if not the start of the new season too.

So if he was already damaged he shouldn't have played. Bad decision making from him and Martinez and the medical staff. Pep will probably be fuming.
 

easley91

Well-Known Member
Jan 27, 2011
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If you think there's an issue with this then you're part of the problem.
The issue is the raising money for someone who hasn't been contacted before it started and also because it's for online abuse, which many have suffered. A lot of folk are getting the wrong idea and thinking it's because of her reaction when it isn't.

There's plenty wrong here.
 

Saoirse

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Aug 20, 2013
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I really think it's the TV producers we should be upset with. Not right to broadcast a very upset child to the world like that, quite literally a cheap shot tbh.
 

spurs mental

Well-Known Member
Mar 10, 2007
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The issue is the raising money for someone who hasn't been contacted before it started and also because it's for online abuse, which many have suffered. A lot of folk are getting the wrong idea and thinking it's because of her reaction when it isn't.

There's plenty wrong here.
Xenophobia is the only issue.

I say fair play to the bloke, if anything, it's helped raise more awareness around the whole racism issue.

Who cares if he doesn't know her? Or she wasn't contacted before he started raising money? Not really sure why it matters anyway to be honest
 

Atomic Blonde

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Sep 1, 2017
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I wasn't too fussed about the cheers in the first place, and fully condemn any subsequent abuse she has suffered (to be honest I'm not fully aware of it as I don't use mainstream social media), but my issue is some random Welsh bloke feeling the need to raise money for her to show that "not all people from the UK are bad".

I just don't see the point. If you're going to raise money, give it to a worthwhile charity.
If you are not aware of the disgusting online abuse she suffered, here are some examples
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Regardless of whether he gives money to the girl or to charity (which he says he will if he doesn't find the family) this Newport guy is trying to make a stand against online abuse and make a positive contribution to society.

Feeling the need to call out someone doing a good deed (to quote your words "fuck off you boring soppy ****." ) rather than question why some England 'fans' (and society at large) feel it's acceptable to direct vile abuse at a child is a sad reflection of some people's priorities and values
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
26,960
45,235
I really think it's the TV producers we should be upset with. Not right to broadcast a very upset child to the world like that, quite literally a cheap shot tbh.
You really think the fucking vile abuse aimed at her is the fault of the TV producers?
 

hughy

I'm SUPER cereal.
Nov 18, 2007
31,922
57,124
If you are not aware of the disgusting online abuse she suffered, here are some examples View attachment 91529
Regardless of whether he gives money to the girl or to charity (which he says he will if he doesn't find the family) this Newport guy is trying to make a stand against online abuse and make a positive contribution to society.

Feeling the need to call out someone doing a good deed (to quote your words "fuck off you boring soppy ****." ) rather than question why some England 'fans' (and society at large) feel it's acceptable to direct vile abuse at a child is a sad reflection of some people's priorities and values
Thanks mate, but I still share the same opinion as before.
 
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