Ibrahim Sangaré

[daryl hannah]

Would love this one to happen.

 

[Goobers]

This seems a signing to make or look at if you are selling a big player in the squad ....

 

[ralphs bald spot]

given our past record on signing players from France - I am surprised with the level of excitement about finding a hidden gem of a defensive midfielder who just masterminded his club finishing bottom of the French league

 

[C0YS]

I recall one Idrissa Gueye who played for Aston Villa, was very good for Everton and next sunday will play in Champions League final. Pretty sure there is a lot of another exaples.

This is a terrible comparison. Gueye was a ligue 1 winning midfielder who had been part of a successful Lille midfield for 5 years and over 200 appearances before coming in the PL. Lille are a good team. Not a relegated team with a terrible defensive record.

There's a good reason to be suspicious Sangare, ligue 1 does have a habit of producing a lot of over hyped players, who fail to deliver or match the hype.

Now Sangare might be a good player, but the scepticism is absolutely reasonable. Because, we've seen it so many times before. Similarly he is clearly good at winning the ball, but that doesn't mean he is good defensively, and there are worries.

 

[DiVaio]

given our past record on signing players from France - I am surprised with the level of excitement about finding a hidden gem of a defensive midfielder who just masterminded his club finishing bottom of the French league

If he's half as good as Ndombele is we would sign absolutely fantastic player.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

If he's half as good as Ndombele is we would sign absolutely fantastic player.

that really remains to be seen on what we have seen so far of Ndombele we have a sulky injury prone player who has achieved very little in his first season

but I will raise you Nije Strambouli Capoue Nkoudou as examples of little known French lads who arrived and disappeared just as quickly

 

[HedgieSpur]

given our past record on signing players from France - I am surprised with the level of excitement about finding a hidden gem of a defensive midfielder who just masterminded his club finishing bottom of the French league

The "excitement" (if you can really even call that...more an acknowledgement of potential) stems from the ATTRIBUTES that he possess. Thankfully it appears that Jose doesn't indulge in the lazy stereotyping of players based on the league that they play in or their nationality.

 

[pedrodelawasp]

A tall, strong Ivorian CDM who plays good through-balls and balls over the top? Must be Yaya Mk2, sign me up!

For real, though, I have no idea about whether or not this lad is any good whatsoever.

 

[DiVaio]

that really remains to be seen on what we have seen so far of Ndombele we have a sulky injury prone player who has achieved very little in his first season

but I will raise you Nije Strambouli Capoue Nkoudou as examples of little known French lads who arrived and disappeared just as quickly

He literally had one bad game which was Burnley away, the rest was at least good.

but I will raise you Mahrez Kante Saint-Maximin even Guendouzi as examples of liitle known French lads who arrived and was very good transfers, add to that transfers like Lloris, Lucas for us or others like Hazard, Fabinho and Bernardo Silva to know that this league has a lot of talents to discover

 

[cider spurs]

If You never try...You'll never know.

Some will shine, some will be solid, some will be shite.

But character aside coz I don't know him, he looks to have alot of the attributes we seemed to be lacking in midfield of late.

Namely, a powerful, tough tackling, ball winning, line breaking, forward passing, ball carrying, versatile midfielder.

Will that translate to the Premier league, who knows. But he clearly has something about him.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

He literally had one bad game which was Burnley away, the rest was at least good.

but I will raise you Mahrez Kante Saint-Maximin even Guendouzi as examples of liitle known French lads who arrived and was very good transfers, add to that transfers like Lloris, Lucas for us or others like Hazard, Fabinho and Bernardo Silva to know that this league has a lot of talents to discover
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Ndombele had one bad game thats stretching it a bit he was dreadful at Norwich and to be honest he has hardly managed to get in the side most of the season - I don't think no one knows where he fits into a side which is the most worrying thing for me.

The rest of em none of play for Spurs - Lloris was an international and Moura is Brazilian and another international when you are buying top end of the marked in France fair enough but the hidden gem players we have found in France have been awful so its fairly hard to get excited about another French League nobody who looks alright on youtube

 

[DiVaio]

Ndombele had one bad game thats stretching it a bit he was dreadful at Norwich and to be honest he has hardly managed to get in the side most of the season - I don't think no one knows where he fits into a side which is the most worrying thing for me.

The rest of em none of play for Spurs - Lloris was an international and Moura is Brazilian and another international when you are buying top end of the marked in France fair enough but the hidden gem players we have found in France have been awful so its fairly hard to get excited about another French League nobody who looks alright on youtube

He was dreadful at Norwich???

One week ago we bought player who is ideal to play with Ndombele and Lo Celso in midfield three.

Lloris was an international same as Ndombele was, you also said about signings from French league and listed Njie so why not include Lucas?

 

[joey55]

He's definitely more Kondogbia or Imbula, than Gueye, Kante or Ndidi. The second group have shown the type of player that is very effective in the Prem. They seem to float across the ground, at a rapid pace, and really hunt the ball down. Florentino Luis is a player in that mould.

Sangare is one of those big units, that is a good ball winner, but nothing much else. He's a poor passer, which is already a concern with PEH. Sangare's passing hasn't shown any signs of getting better and I don't really see why it would, as he's just not a technically gifted player. He's not one of those young players were there looks like there is much more to come from. He already makes a lot of tackles and interceptions and this has been at the same level for the last 2 years. His passing, as I've already said, doesn't seem to have improved over time and when you watch him, it's not going to either. He's not really a goal threat. Really, he's just a ball winner and I think the more nimble players, like Kante and Ndidi are better suited to Prem football.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Ndombele had one bad game thats stretching it a bit he was dreadful at Norwich

Lol what - https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/ta...ottenham-praises-phenomenal-after-performance

Jose Mourinho praises "phenomenal" Tanguy Ndombele after Norwich performance

 

[PrettyColors]

He's definitely more Kondogbia or Imbula, than Gueye, Kante or Ndidi. The second group have shown the type of player that is very effective in the Prem. They seem to float across the ground, at a rapid pace, and really hunt the ball down. Florentino Luis is a player in that mould.

Sangare is one of those big units, that is a good ball winner, but nothing much else. He's a poor passer, which is already a concern with PEH. Sangare's passing hasn't shown any signs of getting better and I don't really see why it would, as he's just not a technically gifted player. He's not one of those young players were there looks like there is much more to come from. He already makes a lot of tackles and interceptions and this has been at the same level for the last 2 years. His passing, as I've already said, doesn't seem to have improved over time and when you watch him, it's not going to either. He's not really a goal threat. Really, he's just a ball winner and I think the more nimble players, like Kante and Ndidi are better suited to Prem football.

Seeing a tall lumbering DM with good stats but not eye catching play just sets off red flag after red flag for me. Mobility and pace is extremely important in the modern game, I know you can give me Busquets or Matic as a counter example but that’s the way the game is headed.

But because Kante and Gueye were also French players it doesn’t matter right?

 

[C0YS]

If you judge what they do on the ball Ndombele would be starting every game. The issue is that players spend more than 80mins a game off the ball, and what players do without the ball is at least as important with what players do on it.

Sangare, I have similar issues. Though I don't know. He is good at winning the ball, pressing etc. But if that doesn't come with good positioning then it's not so relevant.

 

[wrd]

Rumours down the grapevine, but typically you play a team in the league more than once, sometimes you play them more in a cup. Even crazier is you can have a good game in one of the games and a bad game in one of the others.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

He was dreadful at Norwich???

One week ago we bought player who is ideal to play with Ndombele and Lo Celso in midfield three.

Lloris was an international same as Ndombele was, you also said about signings from French league and listed Njie so why not include Lucas?

A highlight reel of NDombele when he has the ball is always going to be impressive, it's what he does without it that's the issue. He doesn't have to be a full blooded tackling machine but does have to look vaguely interested at keeping up with play and closing down the odd attack.

 

[C0YS]

Seeing a tall lumbering DM with good stats but not eye catching play just sets off red flag after red flag for me. Mobility and pace is extremely important in the modern game, I know you can give me Busquets or Matic as a counter example but that’s the way the game is headed.

But because Kante and Gueye were also French players it doesn’t matter right?

You see. This is where I disagree. Pace is useful, but if you have intelligence and discipline it's vital. I mean, being agile to some degree is also important but.

Pace is overrated in many ways, and I blame fifa for that! It's useful in particular moments or if you play in a particular way, and open up the space. But, mobility sure, Busquets is a great example, he isn't quick, but he is very mobile he moves his feet well and can turn effectively. You can do this while being, otherwise, fairly slow.

It depends, Kane and Gueye are typical players who are able to go hunt the ball, and both tend to do better when paired with a positional player, though both are actually able to also be disciplined if required. But it depends. If you want a player to sit, speed of mind is way more important than pure pace.

 

[p.l.edmonds]

A highlight reel of NDombele when he has the ball is always going to be impressive, it's what he does without it that's the issue. He doesn't have to be a full blooded tackling machine but does have to look vaguely interested at keeping up with play and closing down the odd attack.

It's also obscene how much more mobile he looks in that video than he did at the end of the season. As if someone had messed with the aspect ratio of the video to make him look more slender