I just found out about StubHub

[LeSoupeKitchen]

But that still isn't true, you renew your season ticket a long time before the fixtures/games are released. He's not saying that he doesn't want to go to a game because it's only Wigan at home, he cant go because of the day/time, it could end up being Arsenal at home that he misses because the game gets moved to a Sunday or midweek due to things outside of his control, so why should he be forced to pay a commission for missing our biggest game of the season when it's not his fault? I completely agree with what he is saying and think unfortunately that your logic is completely flawed. You shouldn't even be daring to question his motives.

You're defending a flawed system based on the fact that well-intentioned people won't exploit it. If every shop worked on a honesty box payment system I can guarantee you I'd pay every single penny that they were owed but unfortunately not everyone would, hence a better system is needed.

Just because Tibsy has a really good reason for missing games why should I accept a system whereby other season ticket holders get priority to go to Spurs v Arsenal yet can get their money back on Spurs v Hull because they can't be arsed to brave the rain on a cold Monday night?

As I said, I would support the idea of a Saturday season ticket.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

As I said, I would support the idea of a Saturday season ticket.

When would you sell that? And how would it work? Wouldn't you need to know the fixtures beforehand?

I don't agree with the Stub-Hub system either, but on the flip side of what you are claiming, if a person decides they 'cant be arsed' to go to Hull on a windy Monday night, they are hardly going to get any more than face value for the ticket are they and will more than likely make a loss on it anyway? What's worse? Nobody being able to go to the game and the seat being empty or someone being able to buy a last minute ticket? The likelihood of getting your money back is very low.

I blame the club (Levy),nobody else.

 

[SlunkSoma]

Just sold my Bastille tickets on StubHub. Sold within 10mins, system worked well. Realise that's not the issue though.

 

[spursandbarca]

Stubhub pays Spurs 3 mil a year.

Have no issue with it if Face value plus 7 pound fee is charged.

Have issue with someone trying to get 199 quid for a 35 quid ticket. Doesn't look like many of those sold anyway and just sit there online.

 

[JerryGarcia]

Stubhub pays Spurs 3 mil a year.

Have no issue with it if Face value plus 7 pound fee is charged.

Have issue with someone trying to get 199 quid for a 35 quid ticket. Doesn't look like many of those sold anyway and just sit there online.

Going by the official club response I posted on the last page, people were buying the cheap tickets and relisting them at a higher price. I didn't even know that was possible but they must be selling a certain amount at a high mark up or they wouldn't bother doing it. At least the club is admitting there's a problem.

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

When would you sell that? And how would it work? Wouldn't you need to know the fixtures beforehand?

I don't agree with the Stub-Hub system either, but on the flip side of what you are claiming, if a person decides they 'cant be arsed' to go to Hull on a windy Monday night, they are hardly going to get any more than face value for the ticket are they and will more than likely make a loss on it anyway? What's worse? Nobody being able to go to the game and the seat being empty or someone being able to buy a last minute ticket? The likelihood of getting your money back is very low.

I blame the club (Levy),nobody else.

I don't think we're ever going to agree on this.

All I'm saying is, unless there is some kind of downside to missing matches as a season ticket holder (for whatever reason), there will never be a turnover in season tickets. Judging by the recent atmosphere at WHL, a low turnover is not a good thing.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

I don't think we're ever going to agree on this.

All I'm saying is, unless there is some kind of downside to missing matches as a season ticket holder (for whatever reason), there will never be a turnover in season tickets. Judging by the recent atmosphere at WHL, a low turnover is not a good thing.

You're acting like Season Ticket Holders have opened a bar of chocolate and found a Golden Ticket, forgetting that most have had their tickets for years or had to go on a waiting list just like everyone else did or does.

 

[SlunkSoma]

Easy, sell the tickets at face value plus third-party handling fee. If Spurs aren't getting a cut of the 'commission', then that's even worse. If fans are being exploited, at least the extra income would go back into the club. StubHub have paid Spurs for the privilege to rinse fans.

StubHub's business model is based on overinflated ticket prices, regardless of what they say so they should be phased out. Losing these 'flippers' would severely hamper StubHub's profits - and they know it.

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

You're acting like Season Ticket Holders have opened a bar of chocolate and found a Golden Ticket, forgetting that most have had their tickets for years or had to go on a waiting list just like everyone else did or does.

Yes and they eventually got a ticket because people gave theirs up as they couldn't go to every game.

 

[JerryGarcia]

Yes and they eventually got a ticket because people gave theirs up as they couldn't go to every game.

Your points are all good ones in my opinion but season ticket holders have taken some stick on here over the last few years so are maybe a bit sensitive to what they see as a personal criticism.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

Yes and they eventually got a ticket because people gave theirs up as they couldn't go to every game.

So you would only buy a season ticket if you could attend 100% of games without fail?

 

[jimbo]

So you would only buy a season ticket if you could attend 100% of games without fail?

Is that what he's saying? Is it?

Season ticket holders will miss the odd game, that happens and is part of owning a season ticket. If you're missing a lot of games you might re-evaluate your life choices and give it up because you can't or don't want to go as much as you did. That's something that needs to happen for the fanbase to regenerate.

What this system allows is people to use their season ticket as an investment. A club needs to allow younger fans access or the atmosphere turns to shit, as has happened steadily over the years and is not helped by the ridiculous prices.

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

So you would only buy a season ticket if you could attend 100% of games without fail?

No, but I'd pay for 100% of the tickets.

 

[weststandvoice]

But that still isn't true, you renew your season ticket a long time before the fixtures/games are released. He's not saying that he doesn't want to go to a game because it's only Wigan at home, he cant go because of the day/time, it could end up being Arsenal at home that he misses because the game gets moved to a Sunday or midweek due to things outside of his control, so why should he be forced to pay a commission for missing our biggest game of the season when it's not his fault? I completely agree with what he is saying and think unfortunately that your logic is completely flawed. You shouldn't even be daring to question his motives.

Why the hell should a ST holder be guaranteed their money back, if THEY can't make a game? F*ck them and the horse they rode in on.

The Stub Hub thing is abhorrent, but buying a ST doesn't come with insurance.

If a ST holder has something going on say every Sunday, where he does something, he knows isn't negotiable, he cannot get out of... that's HIS problem, nobody else's!

 

[weststandvoice]

No, but I'd pay for 100% of the tickets.

What does that actually mean?

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Why the hell should a ST holder be guaranteed their money back, if THEY can't make a game? F*ck them and the horse they rode in on.

The Stub Hub thing is abhorrent, but buying a ST doesn't come with insurance.

If a ST holder has something going on say every Sunday, where he does something, he knows isn't negotiable, he cannot get out of... that's HIS problem, nobody else's!

So you don't agree with Ticket Exchange either?

Not really sure of your point?

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

I don't understand how someone could be opposed to a non profit, cover the club admin fees ticket exchange? I mean you could even limit the use to 5 games a season or something if its such a huge issue. I feel like certain people in this thread are scapegoating season ticket holders because they havent got one.

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

What does that actually mean?

I'm not sure. What was his point?

 

[weststandvoice]

So you don't agree with Ticket Exchange either?

Not really sure of your point?

I do agree with a ticket exchange. 100%.

 

[LSUY]

Not StubHub related but it does concern tickets.

Apparently 300+ away fans in the Paxton tonight. I thought all matches had to have crowd segregation?