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si_yidarmy

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Apr 17, 2005
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So I wrote this to several Tottenham emails on the website...

To whom this may concern,

I have been a member of Tottenham Hotspur since 1999 of which I now pay £45 a year for the privilege.

Every game I went to I saw ticket touts outside the ground selling match tickets for double+ the face value of a ticket. I remember this being frowned upon at the time by the club, myself and my father, and police who would patrol the areas of the clubs grounds.

To my outrage and disgust, I find out that THFC have actually created an official partnership with the likes of eBay/StubHub for pretty much the same thing!

I went on there today as someone said I could try and get a Spurs v Crystal Palace ticket for Saturday, and I could probably sit in my usual spot in Park Lane lower. This would cost £32 based on what is on the official Tottenham website.

Tickets were in excess of £50 rising up to over £80 for that particular section!!

I ask you, in fact, I demand an answer as to how touting is illegal, yet you will condone people not only abusing the system to make double their money, but how you have just been extremely disloyal to the hundreds of thousands of members like me who pay £45 annually, who can hardly get a ticket as it is on membership sale days (understandable), and let this happen!

In addition to this I find the online ticket exchange facility has disappeared, which allowed season ticket holders and other members to post their ticket for sale at face value on the Official Tottenham Hotspur website, if they could not get to a game, and has now been replaced by this farcical and outrageous third party exchange website.

Every year, I see this club take more and more being taken away from us loyal fans - the people who made this club what it is today, because of greed and disloyal individuals within the football club hierarchy.

I know so many people that would love to go to a Spurs game, but cannot afford memberships, but maybe the occasional game to take their families etc. - especially in this economic climate! I personally can afford these extortionate £70 tickets on Stub Hub - but rest assure, I would never give in to actually paying it because I am honest, I appreciate people like me who have paid their membership and out of principle and disgust I 100% disagree.

You may as well forget my membership renewal next season. I think this is appalling what this club has done!

Regards,

Simon Buckingham
 

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0-Tibsy-0

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Aug 13, 2012
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Agreed on the most part. But if it's any consolation you do get some decent people, I sold my season ticket for the last home game for £20. I'm not comparing myself to Mother Theresa or anything...but you know, i'm not far off...;)

Edit: Wait, after re-reading your post, what I did is still bad and highlights members neglect...whoops...
 

PT

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May 21, 2004
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I see this "experiment" as the club getting a handle on what the average sale price will be over the course of a season that punters will pay for a seat. When the new stadium is built, there will be cast iron evidence and precedent set for the fees charged for season tickets for the inaugural season.
 

MattyP

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May 14, 2007
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The stubhub cost includes both buyer and seller fees, so if the tickets are in the region of 30% above the standard price, the seller will only get back what they paid.

The rest of the money goes to stubhub.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying the fans selling them aren't always the problem. Not in response to this thread, but one of the other stubhub threads.
 

si_yidarmy

£NIC OUT
Apr 17, 2005
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So how is a £32 ticket coming in at different price of between £50 and £115?
 

mkkid

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Nov 9, 2004
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You fo know that every league game has gone general sale this year and evety member has had a chance to buy a ticket.
 

MattyP

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May 14, 2007
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So how is a £32 ticket coming in at different price of between £50 and £115?

There are those that are trying to make money, don't get me wrong, but I doubt whether the highest price tickets ever sell.
 

Rocksuperstar

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Jun 6, 2005
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I see this "experiment" as the club getting a handle on what the average sale price will be over the course of a season that punters will pay for a seat. When the new stadium is built, there will be cast iron evidence and precedent set for the fees charged for season tickets for the inaugural season.

But it won't give realistic results as all it will achieve is to move the market - look what happened at Chelsea, they used to have a loyal fan base (they were there when they were shite) of local guys who would show up every week but, as the money came in and the costs went up out of the reach of the common fans, instead of the stadium being empty, the owners turn it from "going to watch the match" into an massive corporate experience, or as an attraction for a day out to tourists. The seats that were once filled with actual fans started filling with invited guests, tickets over-paid for by corporations wanting to associate themselves with this fashionable London club.

So the tickets will go up but they will sell to tourists, and i'm trying not to sound patronising, who don't quite understand the exchange rate or how much they are actually going to spend on that day out, or the richer crowd of neo-fans who whine and whinge about being a fan instead of sucking it up and turning out, rain or shine, even if they have to sit in the front of the shelf and get really wet, or sunburnt, or windswept, to watch us get drubbed, then turn out again seven days later for more of the same.

It's a different game and the market moves around it. If you want a game that's genuinely affected by fans arses on seats then you'll have to go down Brisbane Road or somewhere like that.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Aug 31, 2012
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You fo know that every league game has gone general sale this year and evety member has had a chance to buy a ticket.
True. But not everyone has got cash on the day they go on sale to members after the season ticket holders have picked off their extras.
Also not all members have friends who are members and usually by the time they go on sale for members plus guests they're sold out.
 

Stoof

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Jun 5, 2004
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But it won't give realistic results as all it will achieve is to move the market - look what happened at Chelsea, they used to have a loyal fan base (they were there when they were shite) of local guys who would show up every week but, as the money came in and the costs went up out of the reach of the common fans, instead of the stadium being empty, the owners turn it from "going to watch the match" into an massive corporate experience, or as an attraction for a day out to tourists. The seats that were once filled with actual fans started filling with invited guests, tickets over-paid for by corporations wanting to associate themselves with this fashionable London club.

So the tickets will go up but they will sell to tourists, and i'm trying not to sound patronising, who don't quite understand the exchange rate or how much they are actually going to spend on that day out, or the richer crowd of neo-fans who whine and whinge about being a fan instead of sucking it up and turning out, rain or shine, even if they have to sit in the front of the shelf and get really wet, or sunburnt, or windswept, to watch us get drubbed, then turn out again seven days later for more of the same.

It's a different game and the market moves around it. If you want a game that's genuinely affected by fans arses on seats then you'll have to go down Brisbane Road or somewhere like that.

I sit in an area that is very sparse in terms of season ticket holders, aside from a few guys here and there. Next to us on both sides are free-for-all tickets and you do get a lot of tourists.

Although rather amusingly there was an American guy who sounded exactly like @usasoccerguy on Twitter - so that was brilliant.
 

SpursManChris

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May 15, 2007
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So I wrote this to several Tottenham emails on the website...

To whom this may concern,

I have been a member of Tottenham Hotspur since 1999 of which I now pay £45 a year for the privilege.

Every game I went to I saw ticket touts outside the ground selling match tickets for double+ the face value of a ticket. I remember this being frowned upon at the time by the club, myself and my father, and police who would patrol the areas of the clubs grounds.

To my outrage and disgust, I find out that THFC have actually created an official partnership with the likes of eBay/StubHub for pretty much the same thing!

I went on there today as someone said I could try and get a Spurs v Crystal Palace ticket for Saturday, and I could probably sit in my usual spot in Park Lane lower. This would cost £32 based on what is on the official Tottenham website.

Tickets were in excess of £50 rising up to over £80 for that particular section!!

I ask you, in fact, I demand an answer as to how touting is illegal, yet you will condone people not only abusing the system to make double their money, but how you have just been extremely disloyal to the hundreds of thousands of members like me who pay £45 annually, who can hardly get a ticket as it is on membership sale days (understandable), and let this happen!

In addition to this I find the online ticket exchange facility has disappeared, which allowed season ticket holders and other members to post their ticket for sale at face value on the Official Tottenham Hotspur website, if they could not get to a game, and has now been replaced by this farcical and outrageous third party exchange website.

Every year, I see this club take more and more being taken away from us loyal fans - the people who made this club what it is today, because of greed and disloyal individuals within the football club hierarchy.

I know so many people that would love to go to a Spurs game, but cannot afford memberships, but maybe the occasional game to take their families etc. - especially in this economic climate! I personally can afford these extortionate £70 tickets on Stub Hub - but rest assure, I would never give in to actually paying it because I am honest, I appreciate people like me who have paid their membership and out of principle and disgust I 100% disagree.

You may as well forget my membership renewal next season. I think this is appalling what this club has done!

Regards,

Simon Buckingham
so what is your membership type?
 

micpin

Member
Apr 8, 2010
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Give it a few days. You might find the prices come down nearer the game. I have both sold, and bought, on StubHub and have found it to be a pretty good service. I've managed to buy extra tickets for a few games and have not paid more than list price for a game. The collection process works surprisingly well.
 

Monkey boy

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Jun 18, 2011
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Wonder if any tickets for the Swansea game will appear on stub hub shortly? If only there was a way of cutting out the middle man in stub hub **walks away whistling***

Do away game tickets go onto stub hub?
 

Kendall

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Feb 8, 2007
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I was surprised Hull away went to 100 loyalty points, fancied a ticket for that.
 

0-Tibsy-0

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Aug 13, 2012
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Wonder if any tickets for the Swansea game will appear on stub hub shortly? If only there was a way of cutting out the middle man in stub hub **walks away whistling***

Do away game tickets go onto stub hub?

See, i'd prefer to do it like this... hence I have sold my season ticket for games to people who are local and that I know for face value and under. However I don't live in London and if I was to sell my ticket to someone privately, rather than Stub hub, then you have to commute to meet them and then trust someone with your season ticket, and then trust someone to return it....
 

mkkid

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Nov 9, 2004
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SpursM post: 3799856 said:
General sale? Members have to wait for general sale?
The member who started this thread has written its hard to get tickets on members on sale ticket dates.
That isnt true because league game has gone to general sale.
 

Rocksuperstar

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Jun 6, 2005
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I sit in an area that is very sparse in terms of season ticket holders, aside from a few guys here and there. Next to us on both sides are free-for-all tickets and you do get a lot of tourists.

Although rather amusingly there was an American guy who sounded exactly like @usasoccerguy on Twitter - so that was brilliant.

Dude, print off some SC business cards with the URL of the site on it - if he's ever there again, you have to give him one...

then, maybe, you can sneak one of them cards into his pocket :woot: WAHEY!
 

beats1

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Feb 22, 2010
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There are those that are trying to make money, don't get me wrong, but I doubt whether the highest price tickets ever sell.
I wanted to see Stoke vs Tottenham with my cousin

A ticket for ordinary seat and child seat cost normally under £50, the two cheapest a week before was £87. The week after only a £115 ticket combo was left. £115 to sit in the paxton end, do me a favour!

That said I did buy a shelf lower ticket for £26 which was £9 cheaper than usual but I would much rather of paid a higher price and no stub hub
 

SugarRay

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Jul 6, 2011
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Sold my ticket on Stubhub twice this season, below what would have been face value.

I didnt bother with trying to get as much money as I could for it, I couldn't make it, none of my family spurs supporters could make it so I was more than happy to give the chance to other Spurs fans to buy it and land themselves a good deal.

Its not ideal, mainly because StubHub take an extortionate cut, but it does give fans a chance to buy tickets to watch Tottenham.

Haven't the club agreed a 3 year deal with StubHub?
 
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