How optimistic are you for Spurs in the Twenties?

[Johnny J]

Not enthusiastic at all. We missed our big chance to win the league the Leicester season. We've failed to make full advantage of having one of the world's best no.9s by not investing in the right players at the right time. Which is criminal. The squad has been neglected. It's beyond absurd that midfield in particular has been left to decline to the point that every single team can waltz through us with ease.

We have a fantastic training group and stadium, but I fear that we are now finding out that we need half a new team, while Leicester, Chelsea and Wolves overtake us. We are light years away from City and Liverpool, and United will get better sooner or later due to massive funds and replacing their manager.

We have needed a top director of football for many, many years. Until we get one our transfer business will continue to be hit and miss.

 

[jurgen]

City and Liverpool aren’t just winning trophies because of the cash. As you say, United show that flinging cash about is pointless without planning. City have a team of people analysing who will be on each position two, three, four years down the line. At the moment, without forensic planning we’ve no chance to bridge the financial gap when they are also doing it with vision and structure.

Agree with this. Some people use Utd as a counterpoint that money isn’t everything which is true but also demonstrates where we have also fallen down - a wider sporting strategy. We are now no longer a club that seems to do much clever scouting nor holds the best youth players. Unfortunately now even competing for kids is a rat race involving money and wages and other clubs seem to be beating us there.

I know the intention, from Poch’s quotes at least, seemed to be that we needed to take the ‘final step’ which is big players and big trophies but having emphatically failed to do that it seems the project needs a rethink. If we’re going to go back to start scouting and buying younger players I guess I can buy into that even if it probably precludes big trophies, but we must reflect that those players still cost 3x what they used to.

I’m grateful that ENIC have been there at the points where we’ve developed a clear and positive identity, given I remember when our club was an absolute joke, but we still go from boom to bust, from points where the club is well on the up (Redknapp/Poch) to Sherwood and our situation today. There’s also a bit of a pattern to how our managers get treated and they are clearly a lightning rod for strategic deficiencies elsewhere.

Unfortunately I think commercial concerns continue to override the sporting project and I remain more sceptical than others that our stadium will prove to be the making of our club’s long term success as there are many other factors determining that, which we are performing less well at. Again, If Levy wants to do things ‘differently’ or as others would have it, ‘the right way’ then fine (I suppose) but we actually need to demonstrate it because at the moment we look pretty rudderless as a football club.

 

[HW61]

This thread is all about how we feel....

All I know is that I sold my ticket for this weekend’s Liverpool game. A season ticket holder since the 80s. A premium game. What’s concerning is that I sold it not to make a point or protest. It was because I just couldn’t face the the long slow journey to and from the stadium. A few miles taking 1.5 hours each way. To watch the turgid crap we’ve been served up by a lethargic tired completely under-invested squad.

I’m not even angry. It’s just how I feel.

It would be nice to offer up a sensible analytical piece on why I’d be optimistic for the future under the current ownership. But I can’t. Either I’m not that bright or I have little faith. Probably 50/50 on both.

 

[Gassin's finest]

This thread is all about how we feel....

All I know is that I sold my ticket for this weekend’s Liverpool game. A season ticket holder since the 80s. A premium game. What’s concerning is that I sold it not to make a point or protest. It was because I just couldn’t face the the long slow journey to and from the stadium. A few miles taking 1.5 hours each way. To watch the turgid crap we’ve been served up by a lethargic tired completely under-invested squad.

I’m not even angry. It’s just how I feel.

It would be nice to offer up a sensible analytical piece on why I’d be optimistic for the future under the current ownership. But I can’t. Either I’m not that bright or I have little faith. Probably 50/50 on both.

Sums it up for me too, I feel. I'm looking forward to a free saturday.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Regardless of who is at the helm, I'm becoming more pessimistic with each passing day. That won't change until the club start being proactive.

I'm not talking about bringing in a striker because Kane is injured or bringing in a RB cause Walker Peters is off out on loan. I'm talking about fixing all immediate areas.

The problem with failing to invest in the squad consistently is that you are eventually inevitably left with too much to do in a short space of time. The problems we have now were entirely foreseeable.

I said it at the time of the summer window when we made no signings and I’ll say it again now the results of that summer’s (and others) failure are painfully apparent: negligent management of the club at the highest level.

 

[THOWIG]

The problem with failing to invest in the squad consistently is that you are eventually inevitably left with too much to do in a short space of time. The problems we have now were entirely foreseeable.

I said it at the time of the summer window when we made no signings and I’ll say it again now the results of that summer’s (and others) failure are painfully apparent: negligent management of the club at the highest level.

You could even say that given the zero impact our summer signings have made that we've not seen significant changes for over two years. This squad is clearly knackered. A major rebuild including 2x fullbacks, centre back, defensive midfielder, attacking midfielder, winger and forward and we might get back on track. We are fortunate that bar Liverpool and City everyone else is poor so we can still claw back.

 

[spursfan1991]

You could even say that given the zero impact our summer signings have made that we've not seen significant changes for over two years. This squad is clearly knackered. A major rebuild including 2x fullbacks, centre back, defensive midfielder, attacking midfielder, winger and forward and we might get back on track. We are fortunate that bar Liverpool and City everyone else is poor so we can still claw back.

The summer signings of 2019 have not delivered which has been a massive problem this year (the leeds guy doesn't )

 

[THOWIG]

The summer signings of 2019 have not delivered which has been a massive problem this year (the leeds guy doesn't )

That is where I think Poch actually needs to take some responsibility too. Not only Levy and the recruitment team.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

With our current set of owners we wont be going further any time soon, we all know that

 

[bk75]

This thread is all about how we feel....

All I know is that I sold my ticket for this weekend’s Liverpool game. A season ticket holder since the 80s. A premium game. What’s concerning is that I sold it not to make a point or protest. It was because I just couldn’t face the the long slow journey to and from the stadium. A few miles taking 1.5 hours each way. To watch the turgid crap we’ve been served up by a lethargic tired completely under-invested squad.

I’m not even angry. It’s just how I feel.

It would be nice to offer up a sensible analytical piece on why I’d be optimistic for the future under the current ownership. But I can’t. Either I’m not that bright or I have little faith. Probably 50/50 on both.

I've have reluctantly done the same too. I have a season ticket in the south lower, but there is so much anger from around me there at the moment watching the performances. That I'm just not enjoying the football. I sincerely hope that changes.

I went to the NFL games earlier in the season and the atmosphere was great and very friendly. At the moment we just don't have that at spurs.

 

[SugarRay]

I know we are going to lose tomorrow but I’m still looking forward to going. Feels shitty around the club right now but no need to get overly dramatic chaps.

Watching us play is a highlight of my fortnight/week and I hope it always will be

Whatever happens in the next decade happens. If it’s shit, then I hope my ticket price reflects that at least but I’m optimistic. I just hope the club takes a long hard look at its scouting approach. Some awful awful dealings over the last 2/3 years. Levy completely lost it on that front imo.

We could have banked well over £250m for Rose, Eriksen and Dele if sold at the right time. It’s a fine balancing act but we seem to lack shrewd football men. Imagine how that could have been reinvested? Perhaps we’d have Salah, Mane, Van Dijk, Allison and a couple of others instead of our opponents tomorrow? Hindsight is a wonderful thing eh!

Here we are scrambling over loans to cover, Rose is now worth about a tenner, Dele at most £40m and Eriksen gone for nothing. Levy is past it when it comes to trading players

 

[Spurslove]

I'm always cautiously optimistic about our prospects, but over the next 10 years...? Christ, we have no idea what's going to happen by the end of the month. Clearly, we all have to choose between believing faithfully that we're finally going to crack it somehow, against all the odds (I'm talking about constantly trying to compete with the financially doped clubs, and we all know who they are...) and moaning and bitching about Levy being a tight-fisted little scrote ad nauseum for the next 10 years.

All I know is, I know which attitude I prefer to adopt.

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[Everlasting Seconds]

"We" won the FA cup 1920/21, so reasonably optimistic.

 

[Misfit]

 

[Gassin's finest]

 

[spursfan1991]

Should read Tottenham Hotspur 1882 - present lol

 

[HW61]

As yet another transfer window progresses where Levy demonstrates an unwillingness to invest in the squad which reflects the wealth of the club and we have to watch yet another turgid bland performance against a team fighting relegation, my lack of optimism grows.

I’ve tried to sell my Norwich ticket on the exchange for over a week. No takers. I’m not protesting. I’m just bored of watching the team. Seems I’m not alone and there’ll be a growing number of empty seats.

 

[Jenko]

We'll win more than the ninetys noughties and teenys put together, but the sound of unsatisfaction from our fan base will still haunt me. I think the sport has just lost the magic it used to have.

God I don't want to be like Arsenal....

 

[riggi]

Sold my ticket for Wednesday. I can only hope we push on and challenge or drop down to mediocrity and lose some of the match day going fans.

 

[Joely]

Only chance of being regular, serious challengers for silverware is if Mr Burns and Smithers finally piss off.