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Tactical Analysis: Spurs’ tactical future is with a 4-3-3

September 5, 2012
By Jake Meador


In the last article, I laid out the reasons that Spurs’ attacking philosophy needed a massive overhaul after Modric’s departure. In this article, I hope to establish why Spurs attacking future is a 4-3-3 that features a midfield of Sandro or Parker playing alongside Dembele and Sigurdsson.
The basic problem facing Spurs post-Modric is this: How can they creatively advance the ball to create high-quality scoring chances? With Modric, all the creative potential of their side was summed up in one player who made the whole attack go. Without him, the side have looked much more pedestrian, struggling to create chances off the predictable passing moves of Sandro and Livermore. The only time Spurs looked consistently threatening in the first two matches came when Lennon or Bale received the ball in space out wide and ran at their defender. But whenever the ball was in central areas, Spurs have looked extremely predictable. So what do you do about that? I’m going to propose that you drop your advanced central midfielder (usually Sigurdsson) back into a midfield three. With two holding mids in the center, he doesn’t get enough service to be effective anyway.
By deploying a midfield three, you can be a bit more flexible in what sort of players you slot into those roles. Rather than needing two defensive players to cover the vast central midfield area, you can have three players patrolling the area – which means you can get away with playing only one strict destroyer. In the other two spots, you can use a distributor (think Xavi at Barcelona or Fabregas during his Arsenal days) and a runner to link up play between the midfield two and front three (here you should think of Iniesta at Barca, Rosicky at Arsenal, or Lampard at Chelsea). The other interesting thing with this set up is that in games where you are the more talented side, 4-3-3 can easily become 3-4-3 with the destroyer sliding into defense with the two center backs and the two fullbacks moving forward to flank the remaining two midfielders. Given Parker and Sandro’s positional conservatism and the more enterprising mentality of Benoit Assou-Ekotto and Kyle Walker, it isn’t hard to see Spurs shifting more toward a 3-4-3 against lower half sides. So this approach – three midfield players with each one assuming a distinct role in the side – is what I believe Villas Boas is trying to establish at Spurs. And if you look at his recent transfers with that philosophy in mind then they begin to make a bit more sense.
So pretend Spurs never signed Dembele and Dempsey and they kept Van der Vaart. Now they’re heading into the remainder of the season with the squad they had last Saturday. If you take Dembele out of the side and play a 4-3-3 with two holders and Sigurdsson or Van der Vaart, what you actually end up with is precisely the sort of thing that I already showed won’t work: a 4-2-3-1 without any creativity and in which your central attacking midfielder becomes marginalized due to lack of service.
What’s needed to make that midfield three work is a destroyer to shield the back line, a distributor who can make the attack go without taking many touches but who can make quick one or two touch passes to spring the attack to life, and a midfielder who can retain possession to either slow play down or to advance the ball simply by running at defenders. It’s that marauding runner who will stretch defenses and create space for the wide attacking players and he’s absolutely essential to making the system go. Modric used to be that for Spurs. What made him so remarkable is that he played that role and the regista role simultaneously, deciding which route to go based on what was available to him when he received the ball. In the new setup, Dembele will be the runner who stretches the defense and Sigurdsson will play the role of distributor. Consider Dembele’s heat map and average position map from his final match with Fulham against Man United:


Notice that in the heat map, Dembele almost always takes his first touch behind the halfway line. But on the average position map, he’s in a more advanced position (look for number 30, just below the midfield circle on the United side of the field). That reflects what anyone who watched the game could see for themselves: Most of Fulham’s most promising attacks came off long runs by Dembele where he beat the first man and then forced another United defender to come out of their position to stop his run. That’s how you stretch defenses and that’s how you create space to make life easier on your other attacking players. You think Bale, Adebayor, Dempsey, Sigurdsson and Lennon aren’t excited to benefit from Dembele’s mazy runs? Thanks to Dembele’s runs, Sigurdsson can operate in a more central role as a distributor. But he’ll also have freedom to jump ahead and join the attack in a role much like his closest Premiership analog, Frank Lampard, mostly looking for quick touches to set up teammates or the chance for an unmarked run from deep toward the goal. So Spurs midfield three would be Sandro, Sigurdsson and Dembele with Parker, Huddlestone, and Livermore available off the bench.
There are a couple other points to consider as well. In a 4-3-3, there are always five other places where attacking threats can come from. But thanks to the canny transfer activity of the past summer, Spurs actually have six other players to involve in the attack. So let’s talk about them.
First is Adebayor. He’s a number nine striker, but he’s a number nine with phenomenal range and good passing ability (and, sadly for Spurs supporters, a less than reliable record as a finisher). Interestingly, the only Premiership striker who really compares to Adebayor is former Spurs striker Peter Crouch. Consider:


The first heat map is from Adebayor’s five star performance against Newcastle in which he scored one goal and assisted on four others. The second is from Crouch’s best game with Stoke when he scored a wonder goal against City late last season. In both cases, the strikers, though they look like conventional number nines, drop deep to receive the ball and distribute to other attackers. That makes Adebayor a tougher striker to mark and the space he vacates up top creates space for Sigurdsson or Dembele to attack or, more probable, the next person we need to talk about: Gareth Bale.
I’ve already described how Bale will likely be used by AVB so I won’t belabor the point here. All I will add is that what might seem a role too free for Bale’s own good when considered by itself should become much more sensible when set alongside these other considerations. Distilled to its essence, AVB’s philosophy is about shrinking the field when the opponent is on the ball and maximizing it when in possession. Bale’s more nomadic role in this setup, when set alongside the runs of a marauding midfielder and the free role of Adebayor up top should make him that much more difficult to mark. And taken within the larger system, it makes Spurs that much more unpredictable as an attacking force.
Next is the third player up front, which I anticipate will be either Aaron Lennon or Clint Dempsey. When it’s Lennon, I expect we’ll see him play a pretty typical right wing role with Bale being the player who cuts inside and supports Adebayor. But when it’s Dempsey, that will create a whole new set of challenges for defenders. Dempsey is, in many ways, the embodiment of American soccer at its pinnacle: Rugged, hard-working, fundamentally sound, and able to use those compound word virtues to make up for a lack of pace or obvious flair on the ball. He’s also a player who can line up anywhere in midfield or even as a center forward in a pinch. With Spurs I anticipate he’ll play on the right hand side of a 4-3-3 opposite Gareth Bale, though if Bale gets hurt he could easily shift left and play opposite Aaron Lennon. What makes Dempsey so exciting is that he can pop up just about anywhere to receive the ball, he has extremely intelligent movement and he finishes very well in front of goal. If the opposite wide man and Dembele can stretch the defense, I suspect Sigurdsson and Dempsey will both benefit enormously. To illustrate Dempsey’s versatility, look at these heat maps from several of his games last season. How do you mark a guy who covers that much space and does so as intelligently as the man Americans call Deuce? That’s the question Premiership defenses will have to answer.


The final three players to consider will provide support from the back line. Two are obvious: Benoit Assou-Ekotto, who is now one of Spurs’ most important creative players, and Kyle Walker, last year’s PFA Young Player of the Year. It’s the attacking ability of these two players that should allow Spurs to shift into a functional 3-4-3 when in possession against overmatched opponents. Assou-Ekotto is a massively underrated creator from the left back role and Walker’s danger down the right is already well known.
The final piece to the puzzle is Jan Vertonghen. Something worth watching next time you see Spurs play is how the defenders fan out whenever the keeper has the ball. The fullbacks press up almost to midfield and the two center halves both flair out into wide roles where you’d usually expect to see the fullbacks. This will likely become even more pronounced with the more technically adept Hugo Lloris in goal. So even the center halves are going to be cast in a more aggressive light in this system. And that should suit Vertonghen beautifully. Able to play midfield or left back without missing a beat, the Belgian international offers another attacking threat for Spurs – a threat that was on full display during his debut against West Brom when he narrowly missed a scoring chance in the first half and had a late winner waved off when William Gallas was called offside. It will be intriguing to see how Vertonghen is deployed for Spurs.
For all the reasons described above, AVB’s Spurs have the potential to be a very exciting team that plays attractive, aggressive football. But there’s a caveat to all this: The early returns have not been pretty. Much like AVB’s Chelea, Spurs have enjoyed a lot of possession and created a fair number of shots, but they haven’t scored enough goals. They’ve also shown a lot of fragility late in games. (If games ended after 80 minutes, Spurs would be undefeated with seven points.) I suspect that many of the problems go back to the difficulties that Spurs have had with AVB’s system. On paper, the system is supposed to make the creativity happen. Under Redknapp, you depended upon the impulsive creativity of geniuses like Modric and Van der Vaart. In AVB’s system players are meant to be put into positions where creativity becomes easier and more likely to happen. But that hasn’t happened early on. Bale has struggled to decide when he should stay wide and when he should look to cut inside. Most the team has looked uncertain about what to do with the ball when they have it. They look like a team that is struggling to learn a system and is spending too much of their time thinking and too little playing. (They also look like a team struggling for fitness, which could be a product of AVB’s training technique or could simply be early-season fitness issues.) If things go as planned, the players will take to the system in time and we’ll start to see the kind of free-flowing attacking football that I’ve described above. However, that’s all contingent upon the players grasping the system. For the past four years they’ve played under a manager with an exceedingly light touch who trusted his starters to go out and figure things out for themselves. Under AVB it’s a whole new ball game. If Spurs can become comfortable in the system and play within it, rather than constantly thinking about what they are supposed to be doing moment-to-moment, then they’ll do quite well. But if they can’t, then it could be déjà vu for AVB.
Author’s note: I’m a diehard Spurs fan. I try to offer neutral tactical analysis when I write, but sometimes that’s damned difficult. This is one of those times.
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ultimateloner

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Neat analysis but nothing we don't already know. Its all about execution with AvB, we know he's got ideas.
 

SugarRay

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I'm sure AVB knows what he wants to do and how to go about achieving it.

Not sure he will be taking much advice from anyone here or who write their own blog, unless of course Jose Mourinho or Fergie is doing just that!

Nicely laid out though.
 

Syn_13

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Very informative and I appreciate the time you must have put into this.

I think the truth of the matter is that to successfully make 4-3-3 work you really need goals to come from all of the 3 front men, especially if your striker is not a prolific scorer, which Adebayor isn't (but he can hold the ball up and chips in with plenty of assists).

I think our natural choice is Dempsey, Adebayor and Bale for those 3 as all three have proven that they can score and set up goals. Lennon for me is more a classic wide midfielder in a 4 man midfield, his finishing is just not up to scratch and doesn't get into those positions so much.

I'm eagerly anticipating how this system will work for us. I do believe that we have a good mix of creativity and steel in the middle 3, maybe lacking that certain touch of world class ability that a player like Modric can produce. Dembele might prove he has what it takes but is certainly a differnet type of player than Modric even if they both like to bring the ball forward from deep positions.
 

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yeah that's the thing - people say VDV didn't fit with AVB's system because he wasn't quick enough, but he scored goals which AVB requires from his front 3 - something Lennon doesn't provide despite his pace and trickery so i think he'll be left as an impact sub for much of the season behind Dempsey and Bale
 

Syn_13

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yeah that's the thing - people say VDV didn't fit with AVB's system because he wasn't quick enough, but he scored goals which AVB requires from his front 3 - something Lennon doesn't provide despite his pace and trickery so i think he'll be left as an impact sub for much of the season behind Dempsey and Bale

Actually, I don't think VDV is right for this system and understand why he wasn't wanted anymore. BUT, that doesn't mean I don't want him in the team and I am saddended that he's gone. He was, as 'Arry would say, a top top 'triffic top bloke and added that bit of world class panache to our attacking play and we may end up missing that. I know I said goals and assists were needed out of the front 3 but the two outside players need to be able to play wide and act as inside forwards, which VDV proved he was poor at during the times when he was shifted over to the right.

Now if we played 4-2-3-1 then he would have been quality directly behind the front man. We're playing that now but I don't think AVB sees that as the long term goal as 3 centre mids adds more fluidity than having 2 rigid holding mids, which is what we're playing atm with the Sandro/Livermore combo. 4-2-3-1 in my opinion ends up stifling your creative output as you depend on that 1 midfield man (Siggy, or what could've been VDV) to have to do all the creative play. And if they're having a shit game...
 

whitestreak

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Very informative and I appreciate the time you must have put into this.

I think the truth of the matter is that to successfully make 4-3-3 work you really need goals to come from all of the 3 front men, especially if your striker is not a prolific scorer, which Adebayor isn't (but he can hold the ball up and chips in with plenty of assists).

I think our natural choice is Dempsey, Adebayor and Bale for those 3 as all three have proven that they can score and set up goals. Lennon for me is more a classic wide midfielder in a 4 man midfield, his finishing is just not up to scratch and doesn't get into those positions so much.

I'm eagerly anticipating how this system will work for us. I do believe that we have a good mix of creativity and steel in the middle 3, maybe lacking that certain touch of world class ability that a player like Modric can produce. Dembele might prove he has what it takes but is certainly a differnet type of player than Modric even if they both like to bring the ball forward from deep positions.
Much as I would like to take credit for this I didn't write it! I am not Jake Meador (the author)
I found it online, agreed with it, and posted it on here,as I thought other may wish to read it! As I felt it was deserving of a wider audience.
 

Syn_13

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Much as I would like to take credit for this I didn't write it! I am not Jake Meador (the author)
I found it online, agreed with it, and posted it on here,as I thought other may wish to read it! As I felt it was deserving of a wider audience.

Well thank you for posting it, nonetheless. lol
 

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Actually, I don't think VDV is right for this system and understand why he wasn't wanted anymore. BUT, that doesn't mean I don't want him in the team and I am saddended that he's gone. He was, as 'Arry would say, a top top 'triffic top bloke and added that bit of world class panache to our attacking play and we may end up missing that. I know I said goals and assists were needed out of the front 3 but the two outside players need to be able to play wide and act as inside forwards, which VDV proved he was poor at during the times when he was shifted over to the right.

Now if we played 4-2-3-1 then he would have been quality directly behind the front man. We're playing that now but I don't think AVB sees that as the long term goal as 3 centre mids adds more fluidity than having 2 rigid holding mids, which is what we're playing atm with the Sandro/Livermore combo. 4-2-3-1 in my opinion ends up stifling your creative output as you depend on that 1 midfield man (Siggy, or what could've been VDV) to have to do all the creative play. And if they're having a shit game...

Like 'Arry knows the world panache.
 

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Very good article.

I kind of think that we might finally make the shift to 4-3-3 now we completed all our signings. These new players won't have have played in Harrys systems so will be more loyal to AVB and may take on his ideas more easily.
 

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All far too complicated for me.

Football is a simple game complicated by people too often.

Players are not that bright. You could see that on Saturday against Norwich. Fill their head with instructions and they don't know what to do and looked scared on the pitch. Its not natural to them and therefore do not act naturally on the pitch. They are confused and think I will just get the ball away from me so I can then get into the position I need to be in next.

This is what it looked like to me for the first half against Norwich. A tactical genius teaching a bunch of wallies. Our players had no idea what to do. Take away the 'system' and go to 4-4-2 and the faster football came back briefly. Go back to the system and we retracted and lost our confidence again.

Since AVB has joined Spurs I have been a consistent voice about not changing too much too soon. Little steps lead to large leaps. A three year contract means he needs to start well to be able to implement his changes in the long run.

he can do all of the above in the long run but he must do things slowly. he didn't do this at Chelsea and look what happened when he left and they went back to their old way of playing.

AVB has had one season of brilliance. He won the league undefeated and won the Europa League too. Looking at this slightly more closely - he won the league in Portugal with Hulk, Moutinho and mostly Falcao. He won the Europa league because most of the teams (including us) don't take it seriously. He was in the Europa League mainly because of their poor Champions League showing. He lost in the Champs league 5-0 at the Emirates and it could have been a lot more...Porto were a shambles.

Harry may have had his critics but his simple philosophy gained the players trust and enthusiasm. Until the England debacle they wanted to do exactly as he and his coaching team asked. Famously telling Pav just to run around a bit. You may all laugh and say that's just nonsense, but its not. Pav scored, we won and our slump stopped and we went on 3 years of great flowing football.

AVB needs to take a step back and implement his philosophies slowly and bring his players in to do this over time. He does not have the players with the mentality to do this. As JD has said, none of the players have played this way before - which to start a season like this is very, very worrying indeed.

I wish AVB the best and will support him but things need to change and change very very quickly.

Cue the negative rep once again
 

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I'm sorry, but to take instructions aboard of how to play a position a certain way at a certain time in a formation is'nt rocket science, even for professional footballers. Just takes a little time for it to become natural and thats why patience is needed.
 

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A lot of sense in there, some of us were saying similar things in the ratings and Tactical autopsy threads.

I really hope we switch to 433 soon, I think it will suit the players we have better than the 4231.
 

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The main reason to get out of 4-2-3-1 is surely to remove the chance of Livermore and Sandro ever playing together again.
I think he's gone 4-2-3-1 to try and make us hard to beat and get a good start, but it's backfired.

Roll on 4-3-3 and our new signings.
 

ItsBoris

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All far too complicated for me.

Football is a simple game complicated by people too often.

Players are not that bright. You could see that on Saturday against Norwich. Fill their head with instructions and they don't know what to do and looked scared on the pitch. Its not natural to them and therefore do not act naturally on the pitch. They are confused and think I will just get the ball away from me so I can then get into the position I need to be in next.

This is what it looked like to me for the first half against Norwich. A tactical genius teaching a bunch of wallies. Our players had no idea what to do. Take away the 'system' and go to 4-4-2 and the faster football came back briefly. Go back to the system and we retracted and lost our confidence again.

Well first of all I doubt ALL the players are as thick as you described. I know there are quite a few smart players in our team. In fact all the signings we made this summer strike me as relatively intelligent.

Second, if our team is really a bunch of idiots, I would rather have a smart person like AVB in charge, because when you get a manager who is also a dummy, that's when you go on runs like 6 points in 9 games, 13 points in the last 16 games of the season to throw away a CL spot for the second straight season (cough cough). Lets not forget that Redknapp blew it 2 seasons running because he was incompetent and didn't have a system or strategy to fall back on when the players lost confidence. Let's also not forget that his 'go run about and kick the ball around' tactics almost always failed and often led to massive defeats by the best teams in the league.

All AVB has to do is pick up 4 points in the next 6 games to equal Harry's brilliant run of results from the end of last season, and that's even with an incomplete squad for 3 games and a squad even now that most people think is weaker than the one Harry had at his disposal. Also Harry was 3-4 years into his management of the team. We'll see if 3-4 years down the line AVB's "system" fails that badly game after game, with a squad that had been competing for the title. Somehow I doubt it.
 

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AVB has had one season of brilliance. He won the league undefeated and won the Europa League too. Looking at this slightly more closely - he won the league in Portugal with Hulk, Moutinho and mostly Falcao. He won the Europa league because most of the teams (including us) don't take it seriously. He was in the Europa League mainly because of their poor Champions League showing. He lost in the Champs league 5-0 at the Emirates and it could have been a lot more...Porto were a shambles.

:confused: Err...no he didn't. First, Jesualdo Ferreira was Porto's manager at that time, second that was a Knockout stage game and you don't go from CL knockout stages to Europa league.

Before AVB arrived Porto finished third in the Portuguese league, so they went into the Europa league which they won, and they won the Portuguese league too.

"Cue the negative rep once again" - I don't do that, but it wouldn't exactly be undeserved considering your post includes mistruths about AVB's record that are meant to discredit him.
 

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why do people talk as if Porto was AVB's first success? anybody think how he got the Porto job in the first place? that's right, by taking a team risking relegation and finishing 11th with them. avb's not a one-hit wonder... he's a two-hit wonder
 
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