European Superleague about to become reality?

[Hoops]

the stupid thing is the Spanish are now panicking as they see the money in the PL, yet they don't understand the reason the primera league isn't in a similar position it's because it isn't competitive..... And the only people to blame for that is barca and real and their monopolising the TV money.

Isn't it. Messi scored another hat trick yesterday. Who cares when he gets one every week.

 

[slartibartfast]

I agree with just about every post in this thread.
Its a truly stupid idea.
Its pure greed.
They're totally missing the point as to why this game IS so popular.
And unfortunately, at some point, this will happen and they'll kill the Golden Goose.
Even if Spurs were one of these clubs, that would be it for me.
I'm not paying to watch a closed league.
Same as I'm not watching any CL games this season because it has to be paid for separately and Spurs aren't in it (yet )
There are a lot more football supporters in this country who do not support the sky 5 than do.
And by support I mean actually live, breath and spend 90% of their annual income on the club not just armchair fans with a Man U lunchbox from Sports Direct.

 

[beats1]

the stupid thing is the Spanish are now panicking as they see the money in the PL, yet they don't understand the reason the primera league isn't in a similar position it's because it isn't competitive..... And the only people to blame for that is barca and real and their monopolising the TV money.

Actually in spain, Barca and Real are worried that they cant compete with the PL because its unfair that they have to start sharing the tv money with the rest of the league

 

[slartibartfast]

This is precisely the kind of shit Financial Fair Play was really about.
Keeping the rich elite rich and elite.
Fk all to do with 'Fair Play'. Arseholes.
Even with the massive financial advantage these clubs have they're still so fkin incompetent they've gone and fked it up.
Must have been a brilliant meeting. Like a lot of meetings, just a bunch of over paid fk wits sitting around discussing something they know fk all about and making monstrous huge decisions that'll have huge repercussions.
Incompetence is rife everywhere. Why should football be any different?

edit - just noticed I'd spelt incompetence wrong lol. Like I said, it's fkin everywhere

 

[Flynn]

FFP was supposed to keep the elite where they were for the foreseeable future. No one was supposed to be able to get near them as they couldn't spend the £s that the oil rich clubs had to get where they are.

However, Spurs and Leicester have ripped up the rule book. THIS wasn't supposed to happen, queue panic at the big boys. Suddenly when faced with the need to spend £200M each to replace their aging squads they want to backtrack on FFP and set up a closed door league to maintain their monopolies.

Even more funny,,,,,, is Lolpool, mediocre for the last 7-8 years but desperate to remain relevant.

 

[Danners9]

Dont tell that to the mls execs or the fan boys

Works fine in a system designed like US Sport is. College to AAA to Pro. That's fine. They don't compete against each other, often the lower teams are owned by the top teams so it's a conveyor belt through to the top.

But you have 20 or so teams there and still talking about expansion teams. In Europe, it's far more established and there's no need for this closed shop. Leeds Utd won the league in the early 90s, now they are right down. Bournemouth almost went out of business, now they are in the top tier. That's the whole point of the league system.

 

[Dillspur]

As someone said, there are no good reasons for a closed league. Football isn't like America sports, where you get sold an experience, football's different I don't think fans would turn up if there's nothing to play for.

It this happens and we were part of it i'd be done. But I could see fans, local businesses etc, starting again with regional leagues, or watching lower tier teams of they were still about

 

[nailsy]

If we're trying to improve football by introducing ideas from other sports can we also copy darts and let the players drink a pint while running round the pitch? And let's introduce all the padding from American football. And they use rests in snooker don't they? Why not let footballers carry small ladders in case they can't reach a header? Come on, let's make this sport better!

Edit: And how about taking pit stops from F1? we should make players change their boots once each half while play continues! Just think of the extra revenue it would generate with the TV camera's focusing on the players boots. Sponsers would go mad for it. And think of all the extra goals that would be scored while the goal keepers were off the pitch. Make this happen!

 

[ethanedwards]

If we're trying to improve football by introducing ideas from other sports can we also copy darts and let the players drink a pint while running round the pitch? And let's introduce all the padding from American football. And they use rests in snooker don't they? Why not let footballers carry small ladders in case they can't reach a header? Come on, let's make this sport better!

Edit: And how about taking pit stops from F1? we should make players change their boots once each half while play continues! Just think of the extra revenue it would generate with the TV camera's focusing on the players boots. Sponsers would go mad for it. And think of all the extra goals that would be scored while the goal keepers were off the pitch. Make this happen!

Excellent ideas, perhaps we could extend the team entourage to include a hairdresser, who could come onto the pitch in hair emergencies.

 

[nailsy]

Excellent ideas, perhaps we could extend the team entourage to include a hairdresser, who could come onto the pitch in hair emergencies.

And instead of heading to the dressing room at half time the players could head to McDonald's for a big Mac.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Read an interesting article on BBC website last night.
Apparently the meeting of these 5 PL club bods was do discuss a modification to the CL, whereby clubs are automatically invited to participate rather than having to qualify.
Barcelona were the club who came up with the idea, the so-called "Big Five" agree in principle and now Inter Milan want it to become reality.
It's the belief of these clubs that history accounts for as much as current form/performance and that these big clubs, more so the ones outside the PL, need the money that the CL and it's TV rights brings.

It's no wonder Inter are up for it - this is their 2nd time in 3 seasons that they've had no European football.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35864399

 

[yankspurs]

Read an interesting article on BBC website last night.
Apparently the meeting of these 5 PL club bods was do discuss a modification to the CL, whereby clubs are automatically invited to participate rather than having to qualify.
Barcelona were the club who came up with the idea, the so-called "Big Five" agree in principle and now Inter Milan want it to become reality.
It's the belief of these clubs that history accounts for as much as current form/performance and that these big clubs, more so the ones outside the PL, need the money that the CL and it's TV rights brings.

It's no wonder Inter are up for it - this is their 2nd time in 3 seasons that they've had no European football.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35864399

Lol at liverpool. They want in because they struggle to get european football year in and year out.

 

[DCSPUR]

If it is a restructured CL to include wildcards they will kill the competition - look at the reaction dortmund fans had to it for eg
I am not convinced a super league to replace the PL would happen - if you are, say Liverpool, do you risk joining that league if the PL makes clear that deserters will never be allowed back in? Financially very risky.
And with Leicester, us and others doing well and building global fan bases the PL can survive

 

[tototoner]

Related ? not sure

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35888818

Champions League shake-up: Uefa 'consider new format'

The Champions League may feature fewer teams in the group stages under proposals being considered by Uefa.

One suggestion is for more knockout rounds, leading to two 'super-league' groups of eight teams - the current format features eight groups of four.

A spokesman told the Guardian Uefa was in "constant contact" with clubs but "no concrete proposals" were in place.

The current structure is unlikely to change under the present TV rights deal, which runs to the end of 2017-18.

The Champions League replaced the European Cup, which was a straight knockout competition, in 1992.

There are currently three qualifying rounds and a play-off round, all played over two legs, then the group stage which features 32 teams divided into eight groups, with the top two in each group advancing to the knockout round of 16.

The European Clubs' Association, led by former West Germany international striker Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, has held discussions regarding a tournament consisting of 20 teams from Italy, England, Spain, Germany and France.

Inter Milan chief executive Michael Bolingbroke told the BBC this week that he saw merit in the idea of Champions League wildcards for teams that have not qualified through their league position.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Basically they believe they can weed out the "weaker" teams before the group stage if they reduce groups to 16 team total instead of 24.
One problem with that - more and more so-called weaker teams are progressing to the last 16, so I'm not sure what they think they will actually accomplish with this.
What it ultimately comes down to is money, and teams that believe they should regularly be earning money from CL exploits aren't doing so because they're shit and don't manage to qualify for the CL regularly. They want a guaranteed income because their history demands it.
So what happens if Liverpool fail to reach the CL between now and the date any potential new format starts, but Leicester manage it every year?! No doubt Liverpool believe they should be in it regardless of their PL position, just because they won it a few years back.

If it happens it will destroy the PL, let alone other competitions.

 

[Trix]

Inter Milan chief executive Michael Bolingbroke told the BBC this week that he saw merit in the idea of Champions League wildcards for teams that have not qualified through their league position.

Should just have a raffle then the richer teams could buy more tickets.

 

[coopsy13]

Related ? not sure

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35888818

Champions League shake-up: Uefa 'consider new format'

The Champions League may feature fewer teams in the group stages under proposals being considered by Uefa.

One suggestion is for more knockout rounds, leading to two 'super-league' groups of eight teams - the current format features eight groups of four.

A spokesman told the Guardian Uefa was in "constant contact" with clubs but "no concrete proposals" were in place.

The current structure is unlikely to change under the present TV rights deal, which runs to the end of 2017-18.

The Champions League replaced the European Cup, which was a straight knockout competition, in 1992.

There are currently three qualifying rounds and a play-off round, all played over two legs, then the group stage which features 32 teams divided into eight groups, with the top two in each group advancing to the knockout round of 16.

The European Clubs' Association, led by former West Germany international striker Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, has held discussions regarding a tournament consisting of 20 teams from Italy, England, Spain, Germany and France.

Inter Milan chief executive Michael Bolingbroke told the BBC this week that he saw merit in the idea of Champions League wildcards for teams that have not qualified through their league position.

of course inter milan want the wildcard. Its the only way they will make it into the champs league anytime soon

 

[Gbspurs]

I'm quite game for a reshuffle. UEFA have 2 European competitions. If they can make the Europa better and the CL more prestigious I would be game. Then turn the Super cup into a "cup winners" type cup and we are back in the 80s. Happy days.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

I'm quite game for a reshuffle. UEFA have 2 European competitions. If they can make the Europa better and the CL more prestigious I would be game. Then turn the Super cup into a "cup winners" type cup and we are back in the 80s. Happy days.

It's not just a reshuffle though - it's about the traditionally big clubs suddenly realising other teams are challenging their superiority.

 

[Gbspurs]

It's not just a reshuffle though - it's about the traditionally big clubs suddenly realising other teams are challenging their superiority.

People only think the CL is the pinacle because Sky has made us think so. If it means more sides focus on winning the Europa then a stronger CL is great.

Look at us for example. Winning the Europa League would have been our biggest achievement as a club in 30 years yet every year it is given short shrift by the fans because of the "lure" of the CL.