European Superleague about to become reality?
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spurs9
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Yeah, just like, when Jol was manager, our meeting with Ramos was discuss how Sevilla's DOF set up worked.
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I'd imagine it does!
- Brainfart! That was meant to read "Same applies to Liverpool".
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Because the rich don't like it when everyone else gets rich too.
spursfan77
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It's funny you write that is made me think of Barry glendenning's comments on the guardian football podcast last week (I'll paraphrase) where he joked that clubs don't want to play games (talking about man city playing weakened teams), clubs worried about marketing and not looking at what's going on on the pitch (Man U), fans not wanting to pay to watch games. It's worth listening to as I'm not really doing it justice but st the heart of his rant was the fact that actually playing the game seems to be far down on the list of clubs/businesses who'd rather just make money etc.
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Shame, shame on all the clubs who are speaking to this clown, back in the US it all comes out exactly what that meeting was about
http://www.theguardian.com/football...leicester-relevent-sports-charlie-stillitano?
Champions League does not need likes of Leicester, says US sports executive
Closing off European football competitions to include only elite clubs could make them far richer, according to the American sports executive who has held talks with the leading English Premier League teams about a shake-up to long-established league structures.
The Relevent Sports chairman, Charlie Stillitano, held talks with Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United on Tuesday in London about this year’s International Champions Cup (ICC), an annual pre-season friendly tournament organised by his company. Stillitano confirmed they also discussed “restructuring the Champions League” – an issue high on the European Club Association agenda amid a power vacuum at Uefa.
Stillitano revealed that the European governing body has been keen on working with the ICC, which already attracts some of the world’s wealthiest teams to compete in games across the globe for a lucrative but meaningless prize. “We have even talked to Uefa in the past because they had an interest in our summer tournament,” Stillitano told the US satellite radio station SiriusXM. “That is something they would like to integrate into their portfolio.”
Joining forces with Relevent’s ICC would currently be incompatible with Uefa’s existing sponsorships. There are no plans with Uefa presently on the table but discussions have not been closed off.
Arsenal are the only team from the talks to go on the record in denying they advocate a breakaway Super League for Europe’s leading clubs.
Discussions within the ECA about the merits of advocating guaranteed Champions League places for prestigious teams come at a time when Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United are all in danger of missing out on qualifying for Europe’s top competition next season.
“What would Manchester United argue: did we create soccer or did Leicester create [it]?” said Stillitano, who met United’s executive vice-chairman, Ed Woodward, on Tuesday. “Let’s call it the money pot created by soccer and the fandom around the world. Who has had more of an integral role, Manchester United or Leicester? It’s a wonderful, wonderful story – but you could see it from Manchester United’s point of view, too.”
If the Premier League season ended now, Leicester and Tottenham would qualify for the Champions League alongside Arsenal and Manchester City.
“Maybe that is absolutely spectacular unless you are a Manchester United fan, Liverpool fan … or a Chelsea fan,” Stillitano said. “I guess they don’t have a birthright to be in it every year but it’s the age-old argument: US sports franchises versus what they have in Europe. There are wonderful, wonderful, wonderful elements to relegation and promotion and there are good arguments for a closed system.”
Stillitano believes Europe’s biggest clubs deserve to make more cash from the Champions League, given their contribution to making it such a financial success. He said fans are more likely to watch the Juventus v Bayern Munich and Arsenal v Barcelona games in the current round of 16 rather than matches involving PSV Eindhoven and Ghent.
“This is going to sound arrogant and it’s the furthest thing from it … but suddenly when you see the teams we have this summer in the ICC you are going to shake your head and say, ‘Isn’t that the Champions League?’” Stillitano said. “No, the Champions League is PSV and Ghent.”
http://www.theguardian.com/football...leicester-relevent-sports-charlie-stillitano?
Champions League does not need likes of Leicester, says US sports executive
Closing off European football competitions to include only elite clubs could make them far richer, according to the American sports executive who has held talks with the leading English Premier League teams about a shake-up to long-established league structures.
The Relevent Sports chairman, Charlie Stillitano, held talks with Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United on Tuesday in London about this year’s International Champions Cup (ICC), an annual pre-season friendly tournament organised by his company. Stillitano confirmed they also discussed “restructuring the Champions League” – an issue high on the European Club Association agenda amid a power vacuum at Uefa.
Stillitano revealed that the European governing body has been keen on working with the ICC, which already attracts some of the world’s wealthiest teams to compete in games across the globe for a lucrative but meaningless prize. “We have even talked to Uefa in the past because they had an interest in our summer tournament,” Stillitano told the US satellite radio station SiriusXM. “That is something they would like to integrate into their portfolio.”
Joining forces with Relevent’s ICC would currently be incompatible with Uefa’s existing sponsorships. There are no plans with Uefa presently on the table but discussions have not been closed off.
Arsenal are the only team from the talks to go on the record in denying they advocate a breakaway Super League for Europe’s leading clubs.
Discussions within the ECA about the merits of advocating guaranteed Champions League places for prestigious teams come at a time when Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United are all in danger of missing out on qualifying for Europe’s top competition next season.
“What would Manchester United argue: did we create soccer or did Leicester create [it]?” said Stillitano, who met United’s executive vice-chairman, Ed Woodward, on Tuesday. “Let’s call it the money pot created by soccer and the fandom around the world. Who has had more of an integral role, Manchester United or Leicester? It’s a wonderful, wonderful story – but you could see it from Manchester United’s point of view, too.”
If the Premier League season ended now, Leicester and Tottenham would qualify for the Champions League alongside Arsenal and Manchester City.
“Maybe that is absolutely spectacular unless you are a Manchester United fan, Liverpool fan … or a Chelsea fan,” Stillitano said. “I guess they don’t have a birthright to be in it every year but it’s the age-old argument: US sports franchises versus what they have in Europe. There are wonderful, wonderful, wonderful elements to relegation and promotion and there are good arguments for a closed system.”
Stillitano believes Europe’s biggest clubs deserve to make more cash from the Champions League, given their contribution to making it such a financial success. He said fans are more likely to watch the Juventus v Bayern Munich and Arsenal v Barcelona games in the current round of 16 rather than matches involving PSV Eindhoven and Ghent.
“This is going to sound arrogant and it’s the furthest thing from it … but suddenly when you see the teams we have this summer in the ICC you are going to shake your head and say, ‘Isn’t that the Champions League?’” Stillitano said. “No, the Champions League is PSV and Ghent.”
spursfan77
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It's strange because, without being patronising to them, the American fans on SC speak well about the game, yet whenever an American businessman or owner talks about it they just come across as complete morons.
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IT would be really helpful if journalists went after all the clubs who went to that meeting and got them to publicly disown all of Stillitano's comments. But I doubt they will, probably doing some important research on what that kid at Man U eats for breakfast
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For people who care about football, and sport in general, this has been the best Prem season in living memory, precisely because of the competition and the unpredictability.
For people who care exclusively about the money football generates, this season appears to be a problem. Well good, fuck them. The stereotypical 'American business man' types, like this unspeakable blumpkin, understand nothing of why football is the most popular sport in the world, and why the Prem in particular is the most popular league. Shame on any club who gives serious credence to this idea, and to this douche in particular. He and his type are the antithesis what made football great in the first place.
For people who care exclusively about the money football generates, this season appears to be a problem. Well good, fuck them. The stereotypical 'American business man' types, like this unspeakable blumpkin, understand nothing of why football is the most popular sport in the world, and why the Prem in particular is the most popular league. Shame on any club who gives serious credence to this idea, and to this douche in particular. He and his type are the antithesis what made football great in the first place.
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in another report the odious Stillitano is quoted as saying:
“What I hear from the big clubs is them saying, ‘I could make a lot more money, I can be a lot more visible, I can help my sponsors out but right now I am locked into doing certain things that are really historic.”
It is getting into the territory of that insurance company character in The Incredibles.....
Gilbert Huph: We're supposed to help *our* people! Starting with our stockholders, Bob! Who's helping them out, Huh?
Leicester in the champions league! Who is thinking about Man Utd and Chelsea's commercial sponsors....who's helping them out, huh?
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Surprised this twat hasn't tired to push for draft style transfer system, but that would resolve in the likes of United, Chelsea & Co not getting good players as the worst team get's first transfer.
Unfortunately I can see these money men ultimately getting their wish, and it will destroy everything that we love about football.
Football is about the underdog, not about one/two teams having a legacy that no other team can come near.
Unfortunately I can see these money men ultimately getting their wish, and it will destroy everything that we love about football.
Football is about the underdog, not about one/two teams having a legacy that no other team can come near.
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Well if they want to kill the very thing that makes the Premiership the huge success that it is, the competitiveness, then this would be the way to do it...
Unfortunately, with the way the ownership of Premier League has gone, I can see them trying to change things in the greed for more money.
Unfortunately, with the way the ownership of Premier League has gone, I can see them trying to change things in the greed for more money.
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There are NO good arguments for a closed system. Not when you have 92 league clubs all looking up.
FFS. It's already about the money, doing this would kill every last drop of fun remaining.
As for 'who created football'. Fuck right off. Man Utd didn't, either. Why shouldn't Leicester be in the CL? they won the games, they beat the teams below them and deserve to be there. If these 5 want to go, tell them to go and don't come back. Fans of those clubs will soon get bored of it.
FFS. It's already about the money, doing this would kill every last drop of fun remaining.
As for 'who created football'. Fuck right off. Man Utd didn't, either. Why shouldn't Leicester be in the CL? they won the games, they beat the teams below them and deserve to be there. If these 5 want to go, tell them to go and don't come back. Fans of those clubs will soon get bored of it.
thinktank
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Leicester being up there is the whole magic of the football league. It's all about the dream.
This xxxx needs to be ejected into space.
When it comes to football, American businessmen are fucking moronic idiots. They are all OBSESSED with closed franchised systems. Since apparently, it is working so well with the MLS
These assholes will make the sky 5 play 100m to play in the "superleague" just like owners have to do to join mls.
"You want a team? Give me 100m. Oh, you've been successfull in other leagues and dont want to give me 100m? Bye bye then." - American businessmen in football
Dont tell that to the mls execs or the fan boys
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the stupid thing is the Spanish are now panicking as they see the money in the PL, yet they don't understand the reason the primera league isn't in a similar position it's because it isn't competitive..... And the only people to blame for that is barca and real and their monopolising the TV money.
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