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mpickard2087

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Jun 13, 2008
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This team is shattered. I don't think we should be too hard on them.

Glad we got the win. Can't believe someone said Prior shouldn't be in the squad. He shouldn't open, but he's a good middle-order batsmen.

That was me, reason being that we have gone with our keeper as an opener for god knows how long now it seems, and Prior blatently isnt an opener hence why he wasnt selected for ages so to chuck him in at the last minute due to a good Ashes, disregarding the 18 months of building before that, was a bit stupid IMO. Davies or Kieswetter would have been my choices, at least they can open , and is why Prior wouldnt be in my squad.
 

Chimbo!

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With rumours of Cap'n Andy considering retiring from one day games, i wonder if the selectors are going to give Cook another knock as opener once this competition is over? It's been more than a year since he last had a chance and, if he's interested, i think him and Prior could develop a really solid partnership.

i dont think prior should open the batting. he is good at 6 or 7 and we should leave him there. if strauss does retire then pieterson with cook i reckon. Thats a very strong top 5:

Cook
Pieterson
Trott
Bell
Morgan
 

Chimbo!

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There are also rumours that KP will be quitting ODI's.

there were rumours but he categorically denied it. he said absolutely no way. If there was a possibility then he would have avoided answering the question or at least not 100% denied it.

i think strauss has denied it as well but whether that is because he does not want to say anything during the world cup remains to be seen.
 

$hoguN

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In my opinion both Cook and Prior should not be in the ODI squad, as Cook is an accumulator rather than a the type of batsman you want opening a ODI innings, he struggles to score fast and also is not able to accelerate the pace of his innings when neccessary. Prior is the absolute reverse of this, he is only able to try and blaze away against the bowling and simply gives his wicket away too often without having a devastating effect on an innings (unlike Kieswetter in the twenty20 WC who got us off to a flyer with Lumb often)
 

Chimbo!

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In my opinion both Cook and Prior should not be in the ODI squad, as Cook is an accumulator rather than a the type of batsman you want opening a ODI innings, he struggles to score fast and also is not able to accelerate the pace of his innings when neccessary. Prior is the absolute reverse of this, he is only able to try and blaze away against the bowling and simply gives his wicket away too often without having a devastating effect on an innings (unlike Kieswetter in the twenty20 WC who got us off to a flyer with Lumb often)

It is a good point but I think Cook has the talent to adjust his game to get runs faster. He may work better in ODI's as a high-middle-order batsman.

People often over estimate the importance of getting boundaries when what often makes the difference in an ODI are the singles that keep the scoreboard ticking.

This is particularly important between 10 and 40 overs where you are just trying to create a platform to go gung-ho at the end. Trott is a good example of this as he is not the big-hitter in our team but he keeps getting runs off good balls by hitting singles. It is no coincidence that he is our most consistent performer and without him I do not think our scores would be as good.

If Trott and Cook occupied 3 and 4 then it would give us a very solid middle order that could build a good score from the explosive start set from our openers.

The rest of our batsmen tend to score runs quickly but lack staying power. This has been our problem because how many of our players get good starts but fail to make big scores. Only Strauss has made a century and Trott is the only one to get consistently above 50. We need another player who can get big scores.

As for Prior his style is better suited for a number 7 towards the end of an innings. He is selfless and has an eye for a boundary. When he gets going he can add a lot of runs very quickly.
 

Kendall

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I agree, I dont think Cook is slower at building his total in tests than say Trott and there's no reason why he can't put in a good one day innings as well.
 

mpickard2087

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Thrashed today, batting was painful to watch at times and then never looked like making a comeback with the ball in hand.
 

kishman

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Well Sri Lanka opening partnership showed England how to bat today. England struggled to score boundaries today, which cost us and the fact we couldn't take wicket.

Can't wait for Wednesday's mouthwatering clash between India and Pakistan. India FTW.
 

Bus-Conductor

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England were totally outplayed today.

Still don't understand how bowlers like Malinga or Tait are allowed to bowl though.
 

kishman

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Aren't the bookies deciding the result of that one? :wink:

Haha, there have been a few suspicious moments in the tournament, ironically none of them by the Pakistanis. The one that springs to mind is Gambhir in the quarter final against Australia where he had 3 balls of madness. The first two he should've been run out and finally on the third ball he was run out.
 

nferno

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what a match. i followed it on 4 visual mediums throughout the day; projector in pub, tv in the same pub, computer whilst writing report for uni work, and on the phone whilist in lecture. and i thought 260 was shit!
 

kishman

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What a game! Great result. But Pakistan definitely contributed to their downfall. The game was won during the 30 over to 40 overs, where Pakistan were just batting way to slowly and should've taken the powerplay. But nevertheless, happy with the result.
 

Chimbo!

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What a game! Great result. But Pakistan definitely contributed to their downfall. The game was won during the 30 over to 40 overs, where Pakistan were just batting way to slowly and should've taken the powerplay. But nevertheless, happy with the result.

i disagree i think pakistan lost it when they dropped tendulkar how many times? It was his score that made the difference. Had he been restricted to 30 odd then Pakistan would have probably won. they should have got him out well before he made that 85.
 
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