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yankspurs

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I actually think a 10 game ban for an eye gouge would be completely fair enough. It's a pathetic and dangerous thing to do and is arguably actually worse than biting someone.

But I do agree with those that have said others have managed to get away with similar incidents and have lesser bans so I hope there's some sort of consistency.

Either way I'd be quite happy not to see Mousa in the shirt for the rest of the season. Him and Alli deserve to sit it out and hopefully they'll come back next season with their heads screwed on a bit more.
Its fucking Diego Costa. The only 2 players who deserve shit like this to happen to them are Suarez and Costa. Sorry but I have no ill will toward Dembele for this. Shouldnt have done it and i dont normally wish for injuries or this sort of thing to happen, but a part of me wishes he also went studs up into that **** later in the game and broke that fuckers leg.
 

Drink!Drink!

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clearly the league isn't like a real court, but in sentencing how are they going to unpick the offence, and Dembele's pathetic attempt at carrying out said offence, if the level of violence was actually minimal, should that get 10 games
 

Rocksuperstar

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Lets start putting down what defence we'd use;

"I was telling him to stop crying like a baby, he continued and made verbal threats. I was in the wrong to draw imaginary tears on my opponents face and i can see how it was interpreted as something other than it was. I will accept my punishment hoping that Costa can make a full recovery and is not too traumatised by these events."
 

talkshowhost86

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Its fucking Diego Costa. The only 2 players who deserve shit like this to happen to them are Suarez and Costa. Sorry but I have no ill will toward Dembele for this. Shouldnt have done it and i dont normally wish for injuries or this sort of thing to happen, but a part of me wishes he also went studs up into that **** later in the game and broke that fuckers leg.

Sorry but that's just not the point at all.

Players like Suarez and Costa are a blight on the game with their antics, so how can you say anyone sinking to their level is a good thing?

I really don't see how anyone can even try and defend Dembele on this. If it had been the other way round we'd be calling for lengthy bans.

I understand supporting your club, and you have to allow for a certain amount of partisan myopicness, but in this instance there really isn't a defence.
 

yankspurs

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Sorry but that's just not the point at all.

Players like Suarez and Costa are a blight on the game with their antics, so how can you say anyone sinking to their level is a good thing?

I really don't see how anyone can even try and defend Dembele on this. If it had been the other way round we'd be calling for lengthy bans.

I understand supporting your club, and you have to allow for a certain amount of partisan myopicness, but in this instance there really isn't a defence.
That is exactly the point. When you have players like Costa and Suare who always do shitty little things and constantly get awaya with it, there is a certain part that is glad that something finally happened to them. If the judicial bodies in football or the refs arent going to take action, it is good to see players stand up for themselves. Yes, I know that Suarez has been banned for racism and biting but he's also done alot more that always goes completely unpunished. Even from an unbias point of view, I cannot be upset with someone finally doing something to a player that has done so much to players and refs, for that matter, with so little punishment.

Also, please tell me in what world is a 1st gouge incident from someone who is not known for any type of dissent equal to a 3rd biting incident from someone who is the king of dissent? It's not equal what so ever and shouldnt be treated as such. There is no way that Dembele should get the same 10 game ban for a 1st incident that Suarez got for a 3rd incident.
 

Always Offside

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Dembele should know better than to put hands anywhere near an opponents eyes, any player should know this. Costa is good player but a dirty cheating highly strung meathead. Questions could be asked about him putting his head into Vertonghen's face after Jan pulled his shirt. It wasn't a headbutt but neither was Moussa's an eye gouge.
 

Rocksuperstar

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Statement from the FA:

"We have reviewed the video of the incident and have deemed that it was a dangerous, provocative and unnecessary thing to do and warrants a ten game suspension. However, in this instance, considering the victim, we're just going to let it slide. I mean, come on, he's an arsehole."

If Carlsberg ran the FA...
 

Trix

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Dembele should know better than to put hands anywhere near an opponents eyes, any player should know this. Costa is good player but a dirty cheating highly strung meathead. Questions could be asked about him putting his head into Vertonghen's face after Jan pulled his shirt. It wasn't a headbutt but neither was Moussa's an eye gouge.


No but intent is enough to warrant a ban.
 

Rocksuperstar

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Taking my dick shaped hat off for a bit, the problem the FA face here is quite substantial and i am really glad i'm not the one having to investigate it.

You could argue that, had the referee spotted and dismissed X player for X offence, then the offence that occurred later on in the match would never have happened. So, if the panel decide to punish Dembles for his antics but the club can find an example before this that suggests Costa shouldn't even be on the field of play, or even more bizarrely, a reason Dembele shouldn't still be on the field of play, then we have a cause to argue that the only reason it occurred was due to the referee allowing it.

By the time we reach the 80th minute, i think there is fair argument that at least four players could already be in back in the locker room, both teams down to 9 men, at least, so once Dier has gotten away with a couple of already pretty soul destroying tackles ( :love: ) without being given his marching orders, fuck it, in for a penny and all that.
 

Always Offside

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No but intent is enough to warrant a ban.

Agreed, but from what I saw Moussa's hand brushed Costa's face. Was their real intent to eye gouge ? I'm not so sure. Time will tell how the FA see it & if/how big a ban will be sanctioned.
 

chaching

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It's pretty sickening seeing how many people appear to advocate this kind of violent behaviour. You all need a good kicking. And a couple of good punches.
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HildoSpur

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He will get a fairly substantial ban and fully deserves it. I have no idea what on earth he was thinking, he really let himself down.
 

spursfan77

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What I don't get is dembele seems to be the most placid person ever. Sometimes he looks like he's just so relaxed and chilled out its unbelievable.

Costa must have said something to him to make him react like that.

I expect he will contest any ban and ask for a personal hearing a la Vardy.
 

Booney

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Whatever happens I hope the timing means that we could stretch out any appeal until after Soton game. Play his heart out, get three points, cement top two and get some decent cover for him over Summer.
 

talkshowhost86

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That is exactly the point. When you have players like Costa and Suare who always do shitty little things and constantly get awaya with it, there is a certain part that is glad that something finally happened to them. If the judicial bodies in football or the refs arent going to take action, it is good to see players stand up for themselves. Yes, I know that Suarez has been banned for racism and biting but he's also done alot more that always goes completely unpunished. Even from an unbias point of view, I cannot be upset with someone finally doing something to a player that has done so much to players and refs, for that matter, with so little punishment.

Also, please tell me in what world is a 1st gouge incident from someone who is not known for any type of dissent equal to a 3rd biting incident from someone who is the king of dissent? It's not equal what so ever and shouldnt be treated as such. There is no way that Dembele should get the same 10 game ban for a 1st incident that Suarez got for a 3rd incident.

Firstly, if you think cowardly jabbing your finger in someone's eye is a good way to get them back then I'm glad I only know you over the internet.

On the second point though you've completely missed the point I was making.

My point is that an eye gouge does deserve a 10 game ban. It's a horrible and dangerous thing to do and should be completely stamped out. A 10 game ban for anyone who even tries to do it is completely fair enough.

The issue is that in some their other pathetically short bans, the FA has set a dodgy precedent. A first time offender shouldn't get the same as someone who is on their 3rd or 4th horrendous incident (Suarez) and certainly shouldn't get more than someone who wasn't even punished for a similar move (Torres).

So in that sense Dembele would only deserve at most a 3 game ban. But if any other player did it I'd be happy to see them have an example made of them with a 10 game ban, and it's hypocritical to say it should be different just because it's a Spurs player.
 

spursfan77

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Just passing on from coys:

Ali Z, on 04 May 2016 - 2:32 PM, said:

Heard from a spurs source that although not exonerating our behaviour, the Chelsea players were saying things in many languages that were not nice to say the least and designed to antagonize us, they were disrespecting both our club, players and fans during the game, obviously it go to some of our players.

No prizes for guessing major culprits.
 
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