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Rocksuperstar

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Watching the highlights again, while it was exactly the sort of finish AJ needed and I'd not try and pick holes like I'm an expert, as I am deffo not, but he did broadcast those big shots a bit and against a more seasoned pro, someone who was a bit quicker on their toes and not so determined to stand his ground, dunno if it would've been quite so definite.

Still, massive confidence boost for him, hopefully something he can build on.
 

LSUY

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Was a full demonstration of why they shouldn’t just let people switch over and fight at an elite level. AJ could have killed him with that punch. Brutal
A very limited 'boxer' let into a ring with a former heavyweight champion looking for a knockout. Not only farcical but also incredibly dangerous. Sooner or later someone is going to get seriously hurt.
 

McFlash

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A very limited 'boxer' let into a ring with a former heavyweight champion looking for a knockout. Not only farcical but also incredibly dangerous. Sooner or later someone is going to get seriously hurt.
Hopefully, whichever one of the knobhead brothers that's stepping into the ring with Tyson.
 

k1cks77

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A very limited 'boxer' let into a ring with a former heavyweight champion looking for a knockout. Not only farcical but also incredibly dangerous. Sooner or later someone is going to get seriously hurt.
Thing is it is easy to say this now in hindsight but if you watched ngannou’s performance against the so called ‘best boxer in the world’ tyson fury, you would see that ngannou was no chump in that fight and in some ways schooled tyson with great defence and counter punching.

But last night AJ was alot more aggressive than a timid tyson, and more importantly AJ had the power. Got to think this is the end of francis’ paydays in boxing, only last alternative is wilder. But imo after last night Francis should go back and truly start his career in the PFL.
 

$hoguN

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Thing is it is easy to say this now in hindsight but if you watched ngannou’s performance against the so called ‘best boxer in the world’ tyson fury, you would see that ngannou was no chump in that fight and in some ways schooled tyson with great defence and counter punching.

But last night AJ was alot more aggressive than a timid tyson, and more importantly AJ had the power. Got to think this is the end of francis’ paydays in boxing, only last alternative is wilder. But imo after last night Francis should go back and truly start his career in the PFL.
He won’t. There are the likes Parker, etc that can fight but can’t bang like AJ. Ngannou will get in with those.

I think it’s massively dangerous though and shouldn’t happen
 

k1cks77

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He won’t. There are the likes Parker, etc that can fight but can’t bang like AJ. Ngannou will get in with those.

I think it’s massively dangerous though and shouldn’t happen
Thing is francis isn’t out to prove that he is a boxer, he is there for the big paydays. He made over 30x’s more yesterday than he did for his last UFC fight and he will have some obligations with the PFL who have paid heavily for him. As much as Francis may fare better against a Parker, that won’t generate anywhere near as much as a Wilder fight would imo.
 

dontcallme

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Thing is it is easy to say this now in hindsight but if you watched ngannou’s performance against the so called ‘best boxer in the world’ tyson fury, you would see that ngannou was no chump in that fight and in some ways schooled tyson with great defence and counter punching.

But last night AJ was alot more aggressive than a timid tyson, and more importantly AJ had the power. Got to think this is the end of francis’ paydays in boxing, only last alternative is wilder. But imo after last night Francis should go back and truly start his career in the PFL.
We all know Fury is simply full of shit. He's not interested in being a boxer, fighting the best or having respect for the sport. He's a self promoter who is happy to take on an MMA fighter and promote a farce as a real challenge.

AJ was different though. He has been disrespected and ridiculed after a couple of defeats. He was all business last night. Had no interest in putting on a show like Fury or the Jake Paul farces.

If these MMA or Youtube stars take on high level boxers in a real fight someone is going to get seriously hurt.
 

dontcallme

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He won’t. There are the likes Parker, etc that can fight but can’t bang like AJ. Ngannou will get in with those.

I think it’s massively dangerous though and shouldn’t happen
If he is to fight a boxer of the quality of Parker then he should do what other boxers do and work his way up the ranks.
 

$hoguN

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If he is to fight a boxer of the quality of Parker then he should do what other boxers do and work his way up the ranks.
He should but it’s a money game unfortunately.

Stand by my view he shouldn’t have even been given an elite licence. It’s going to get someone killed. If he does continue Ngannou wants to avoid Wilder and Zhang imo
 

neilp

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He should but it’s a money game unfortunately.

Stand by my view he shouldn’t have even been given an elite licence. It’s going to get someone killed. If he does continue Ngannou wants to avoid Wilder and Zhang imo
Do we know how much Ngannou made for last night?
 

Locotoro

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Well it’s obvious why they do it, but if they carry on like this, the sport is just so diminished it won’t be worth watching.
The thing is that Ngannou isn't just some hobo without experience. He was the UFC world heavy weight champion and after the fight with Fury created some really convincing arguments for fighting at this level. I was legitimately worried for AJ before this bout. Unfortunately, has shown that Furyv Ngannou fight was more indicative of Fury than Ngannou.

But to your point, they are doing it because the sport is already diminished. Fury wasted years trying to dodge AJ and Usyk, AJ won't want to fight Usyk again but we know Fury will never fight AJ. The only other fighter they could bill up was Wilder and he has almost zero boxing skill. So they have to find a way to convince the fans that they are still doing something competitive.

That is a sign of the times within boxing

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neilp

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The thing is

The thing is that Ngannou isn't just some hobo without experience. He was the UFC world heavy weight champion and after the fight with Fury created some really convincing arguments for fighting at this level. I was legitimately worried for AJ before this bout. Unfortunately, has shown that Furyv Ngannou fight was more indicative of Fury than Ngannou.

But to your point, they are doing it because the sport is already diminished. Fury wasted years trying to dodge AJ and Usyk, AJ won't want to fight Usyk again but we know Fury will never fight AJ. The only other fighter they could bill up was Wilder and he has almost zero boxing skill. So they have to find a way to convince the fans that they are still doing something competitive.

That is a sign of the times within boxing
Yes I agree with most of that and it’s a shame that it’s the heavyweights people want to see and they get most of the money. There are fantastic fights at lower weights with true boxers who have worked their way up the hard way.
 

Locotoro

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Yes I agree with most of that and it’s a shame that it’s the heavyweights people want to see and they get most of the money. There are fantastic fights at lower weights with true boxers who have worked their way up the hard way.
I've always thought Middleweight has been the most interesting weight class of any combat sport. Heavyweights in any sport always resort to raw power but middleweights have to be powerful, fast and technical
 

McFlash

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Been a couple of cracking fights on TNT tonight so far, proper boxing.
If the rest of the card follows the first two fights, it's going to be a great night of entertainment.
 
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