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Antonio Nusa

rossdapep

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Chelsea have
Nkunku, Madueke, Murdyk, Sterling, Chukwuemeka all vying for those winger spots.

I also highly doubt they can sell the dream to Nusa like Ange will be able to.

We are stable, he will have a path and he only needs to look at Sarr and Udogie and compare that to Mudryk, Madueke and Chukwuemeka to see that this environment is much better for him.

Elye Wahi was wanted by Chelsea, they sold him the dream of being loaned to Strasbourg, he said he didn't want to be an afterthought so chose Lens.

Also, is Poch speaking to these players? I can't imagine he is as they are probably not his choices
 

dontcallme

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Chelsea have
Nkunku, Madueke, Murdyk, Sterling, Chukwuemeka all vying for those winger spots.

I also highly doubt they can sell the dream to Nusa like Ange will be able to.

We are stable, he will have a path and he only needs to look at Sarr and Udogie and compare that to Mudryk, Madueke and Chukwuemeka to see that this environment is much better for him.

Elye Wahi was wanted by Chelsea, they sold him the dream of being loaned to Strasbourg, he said he didn't want to be an afterthought so chose Lens.

Also, is Poch speaking to these players? I can't imagine he is as they are probably not his choices
We appeared to get Dragusin after conversations and making it clear he’ll be higher up the pecking order here than at Bayern.

Outside of throwing money at him, I don’t think Chelsea have anything more to offer him than us.

If he has the right character he’ll steer clear of Chelsea.
 

robotsonic

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Also, is Poch speaking to these players? I can't imagine he is as they are probably not his choices
If they can get past the lemon anecdote, look at them falling like a stone and being looked at on an FFP basis and still want in, then fair play to him or anyone else going there, but you'd think if we're going after the player for his character then he has more about him than Chelsea.

Not worried about this one at all given the apparent oppo. Unless it's Madrid or Barcelona, for their names and prestige, we surely have as good a shout as anyone at the moment given the financial clout and "project" that we seem to be selling, and a recent track record of pumping up young talent and letting them go and shine.
 

Frank Blank

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Brugge have secretly been organizing an open house for Nusa, and despite Manchester United's efforts, they're lagging in the race I’ve been told but they’re seeking more competition to get the best deal possible. This negotiation tactic is common, intended to maximize the deal. The seller, using agents to engage with all interested parties discreetly. We've established a strong connection with Antonio's representatives and parents during our interest, confident in our progress. Negotiations with Brugge are not just positive but advancing into more intricate stages now . We are very much the club right now for this deal and for nusa.

Quite. And why would he go to a shitshow such as United, for example.
 

Twizzle

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Not a lot of other clubs have money to spend, not a good time to try and drum up a bidding war
 

jay2040

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One of the lessons from the Dragusin transfers is that players are not just commodities who can be sold to the highest bidders but human beings with agency and the right and ability to choose and shape their futures. So having a siting connection with Antonio and his representatives and (importantly) his family bodes well.

As always, thanks for sharing your information with us.

If only there was a universe where another club has ITK that they have contacted Ndombele's folks!
 

sidford

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Can't blame them for trying to maximise amount they get. A couple of million to them is a big deal whereas for premier League teams it's usually nothing at all. It does seem a bit of strange time for them to sell instead of the summer but maybe they need the guaranteed cash for accounting purposes. Let's hope we're still able to take advantage of the situation and get it done.
 

worcestersauce

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Maybe one of our unique selling points was the loan back but if we then tried to get him now as ITK said Postecoglu wanted, club Brugge thought they may as well bring the other interested parties back in.
 

littlewilly

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From everything I've read I'm sure Antonio will end up going to the club he and his family have chosen. Not sure it's particularly relevant that the Club are seeking other bids from other parties.
 

Ghost Hardware

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I don't read it that way - depending on who gets involved.

If it's the club looking for more bidders, that is different than the player looking for other options. The Club is just looking to maximize profits - so they want as many bidders as possible. When it is the player driving the engagement - that tends to mean he is not satisfied with the current offer on the table.
Coming now as in joining this window rather than going back on loan until summer. If Brugge are trying to find the best offer and are reluctant to let him go now then I don’t see us trying to push for him joining now which might draw out negotiations.
 
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brasil_spur

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I have to think that seeing the style of play, and also long-term deals for players like Sarr and Udogie has to be enticing for younger talents like Nusa and Vermeeren. Money is still important, but finding a team to believe in still plays a role.
Agreed and conversely teams like Chelsea fucking young players careers up despite the lure of big bucks shows that if you’re serious about your career as a player and not just a pay cheque then we’re a very attractive Pl club right now.
 

worcestersauce

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Agreed and conversely teams like Chelsea fucking young players careers up despite the lure of big bucks shows that if you’re serious about your career as a player and not just a pay cheque then we’re a very attractive Pl club right now.
If you were a young kid from a poorer background or country one contract with Chelsea would have set you up for the rest of your life and your parents too so I always understood the draw for them. These days I'm not sure that doesn't apply to most clubs in the Premier league so Chelsea aren't quite the top pick anymore, there are better options.
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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Coming now as in joining this window rather than in summer. If Brugge are trying to find the best offer and are reluctant to let him go now then I don’t see us trying to push for him joining now which might draw out negotiations.

As has been mentioned, it’s a huge benefit if he joins now (without loan back) as he’d become U21 eligible for Europe in 24 months and club trained after 36.

By summer he’d be 19 and too old to qualify.

I can see us pushing for it if at all possible, but shouldn’t be a deal breaker as his talent is worth one of the 17 overseas trained spots.
 

WorthATry

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As has been mentioned, it’s a huge benefit if he joins now (without loan back) as he’d become U21 eligible for Europe in 24 months and club trained after 36.

By summer he’d be 19 and too old to qualify.

I can see us pushing for it if at all possible, but shouldn’t be a deal breaker as his talent is worth one of the 17 overseas trained spots.

I've seen conflicting info on this, with some suggesting he would count as hg even if we loaned him back? Isn't that what happened with Sarr when when we loaned him back to Metz?
 

Hazelton

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Easy to say in hindsight but when you look at some of the dross and overrated players that the likes of Chelsea, United etc have overpaid for, I'm so glad that we're now in a position where we can freely go after the players we are in a more fruitful market.

They must be gutted that they're potentially missing out on the likes of Dragusin, Nusa and some of the other youngsters we've been linked to because they need to watch their spending.
 

razor1981

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I've seen conflicting info on this, with some suggesting he would count as hg even if we loaned him back? Isn't that what happened with Sarr when when we loaned him back to Metz?
He would eventually count as a club-trained player for European competitions if we signed him this window, but it's already too late for him to be 'home grown' in the Premier League.

He would count as an under 21 player in the Premier League until 2027/28 though, so wouldn't take up a squad space for the first few years.
 
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