Anthony Gardner (to Everton on loan)

[Spurs_Q8]

I'm pretty disappointed by the reactions. Sure he's not quite filled his promise but he's had awful luck that just wasn't his fault. Some of our fans are very cruel to good/loyal servants to our club.

we like Gardner, but isn't good enough for us because he always unfit recently and was OK at his best when involved ( can't fault him for that due to his injury record but he can't stay here until the end of his career as he is still 26 and too many years ahead of him for that )

 

[Mornstar]

I'll happily drive him to saint andrews. Hurry up and sell comoli!

 

[jondesouza]

I'm pretty dissappointed by the reactions. Sure he's not quite filled his promise but he's had awful luck that just wasn't his fault. Some of our fans are very cruel to good/loyal servants to our club.

Totally agree. Have some rep. Either way, for me Gardner is at least 4th choice CB anyway. Why would we want rid?

 

[Zammo]

I just think it's best for him to move on to another club and get another challenge. He's a great pro, and I have no problem with him personally or the effort that he has put in when given the chance. It just hasn't really worked for him, and a move would be best all around.

 

[boy-C]

Really feel sorry for big Tone, he had all the attributes to be a top class CB but injuries let him down. Deffenately not the worst CB at the club, if fit 3rd/4th choice IMO. Wouldn't mind if he stayed, but i wouldn't think he has much time to run on his current contract(any one know how long?) so it is probably for the best that we get something for him.
No way does he deserve the slagging off he gets by some members on this site.

 

[Michey]

Totally agree. Have some rep. Either way, for me Gardner is at least 4th choice CB anyway. Why would we want rid?

Because he's never fit :shrug:

 

[Spurs_Q8]

Really feel sorry for big Tone, he had all the attributes to be a top class CB but injuries let him down. Deffenately not the worst CB at the club, if fit 3rd/4th choice IMO. Wouldn't mind if he stayed, but i wouldn't think he has much time to run on his current contract(any one know how long?) so it is probably for the best that we get something for him.
No way does he deserve the slagging off he gets by some members on this site.

looks like people quickly forget our first two games :think:

they also forget our def. against Man Utd last time at the Lane !

let alone when many people blamed him for Man City first goal at the end of last season

 

[boy-C]

looks like people quickly forget our first two games :think:

they also forget our def. against Man Utd last time at the Lane !

let alone when many people blamed him for Man City first goal at the end of last season

I think its for the best we all forget the first 2 games of the season as the whole team were totally dog shite.

and i can think of many more times our defence has been totally crap without Gardner in it and im pretty sure he didnt do as bad against man u as another of our defenders did recently.

 

[Spurs_Q8]

I think its for the best we all forget the first 2 games of the season as the whole team were totally dog shite.

and i can think of many more times our defence has been totally crap without Gardner in it and im pretty sure he didnt do as bad against man u as another of our defenders did recently.

I'm one who like Big tony and respect him as he is trying his best when involved, but it was very clear the def. was the worst area in the team during these two games.

as you stated, the whole team were bad against Sunderland and Everton, but we did enough to get a draw in both games if the defence played better.

against Sunderland, there are not real pressure from Sunderland, the back line shouldn't make any mistake there, Kaboul was the only one who impressed too many people, but Gardner missed easy header which gave Sunderland golden chance not taken, if I'm right, also Stalteri did mistake and Robbo make a great save there. then, latter they scored after poor cover.

against Everton, we showed the determination to make bounce back from our first defeat at the start, but once again Gardner did his mistake for their 1st goal in their 1st attemp and that's increased the pressure on the players and effected in team morale and confidence. For sure Gardner scored after that but it was what he should do after his mistake and just 1-1 . Kaboul also played ok ( better than Gardner ) before taken off and that's caused weaker backline.

sorry mate, Gardner isn't the way forward and he isn't useful or good backup for a team want to be top 4. Not smilar situation to Dawson and Kaboul despite their poor show this season, because they are already younger than him and both of them more fit than Big Tony.

 

[recklessyido]

Remember this guy almost signed for Charlton 3 years ago. Lucky he didn't for his carear lol

 

[jondesouza]

I think its for the best we all forget the first 2 games of the season as the whole team were totally dog shite.

and i can think of many more times our defence has been totally crap without Gardner in it and im pretty sure he didnt do as bad against man u as another of our defenders did recently.

He looked very assured against Derby (and yes, granted, it was Derby) followed by a very good performance away at Old Trafford. Certainly has performed no worse than Dawson and Kaboul this season.

 

[Spurs_Q8]

He looked very assured against Derby (and yes, granted, it was Derby) followed by a very good performance away at Old Trafford. Certainly has performed no worse than Dawson and Kaboul this season.

Mr. boy-C defended Gardner as you, I'm who didn't agree to say Garnder had the attributes to be a top class if no injuries because he was fit in pre-season and looked under performing in first two games.

in spite of that, I'm still agree with you he didn't worse than Dawson and Kaboul, but my point is about why he should be used as 3rd or 4th choice while he never be fit during the most of this season. Why he is against selling him while he have King, Woody, Kaboul, Dawson and even Zokora/Huddlestone can cover them. I like to see large squad, but with Stalteri, Rocha, Ekotto, Gardner & Routledge our squad very big and non of them needed, whe could still sell them and using the money on quality player?

 

[jondesouza]

Mr. boy-C defended Gardner as you, I'm who didn't agree to say Garnder had the attributes to be a top class if no injuries because he was fit in pre-season and looked under performing in first two games.

in spite of that, I'm still agree with you he didn't worse than Dawson and Kaboul, but my point is about why he should be used as 3rd or 4th choice while he never be fit during the most of this season. Why he is against selling him while he have King, Woody, Kaboul, Dawson and even Zokora/Huddlestone can cover them. I like to see large squad, but with Stalteri, Rocha, Ekotto, Gardner & Routledge our squad very big and non of them needed, whe could still sell them and using the money on quality player?

I think we need at least five quality central defenders because King and Woodgate have suffered such dreadful injury problems over the years. That leaves four players and three slots. Of the four I would prefer to lose Rocha. I actually don't think he's done very much wrong but if I had to sacrifice a player it would be him because Gardner is our second longest serving player and, even when he's deserved to be in the team on merit, has always been happy to play second fiddle to others.

Your argument about Huddlestone and Zokora is a reasonable one. If I had the confidence that either of them could consistently perform at the highest level in central defence I might be forced to reconsider my position on Gardner.

 

[SpurSince57]

I'm one who like Big tony and respect him as he is trying his best when involved, but it was very clear the def. was the worst area in the team during these two games.

as you stated, the whole team were bad against Sunderland and Everton, but we did enough to get a draw in both games if the defence played better.

against Sunderland, there are not real pressure from Sunderland, the back line shouldn't make any mistake there, Kaboul was the only one who impressed too many people, but Gardner missed easy header which gave Sunderland golden chance not taken, if I'm right, also Stalteri did mistake and Robbo make a great save there. then, latter they scored after poor cover.

against Everton, we showed the determination to make bounce back from our first defeat at the start, but once again Gardner did his mistake for their 1st goal in their 1st attemp and that's increased the pressure on the players and effected in team morale and confidence. For sure Gardner scored after that but it was what he should do after his mistake and just 1-1 . Kaboul also played ok ( better than Gardner ) before taken off and that's caused weaker backline.

sorry mate, Gardner isn't the way forward and he isn't useful or good backup for a team want to be top 4. Not smilar situation to Dawson and Kaboul despite their poor show this season, because they are already younger than him and both of them more fit than Big Tony.

The main culprit for Sunderland's winner was, however, Chimbonda; and whilst Gardner was responsible for Everton's first goal (and some might argue that was Robinson's ball), you seem to forget that for the second Rocha headed his clearance straight to Osman and then proceeded to bundle Robinson into the back of the net; the third was initially created by an unbelievably sloppy pass from Zokora. So how Gardner can be allotted sole blame beats me entirely.

If your point is that his semi-permanent crock status is the problem, that's one thing; but he's no more of a liability than Dawson or Kaboul (or Chimbonda, for that matter). Less, if anything.

 

[Kendall]

I just think it's best for him to move on to another club and get another challenge. He's a great pro, and I have no problem with him personally or the effort that he has put in when given the chance. It just hasn't really worked for him, and a move would be best all around.

I totally agree and that's the kind of fair opinion I believe people should have of Gardner. Not like some cocks on here giving him the wave and saying they'd drive him to brum themselves... tits.

 

[Kendall]

The main culprit for Sunderland's winner was, however, Chimbonda; and whilst Gardner was responsible for Everton's first goal (and some might argue that was Robinson's ball), you seem to forget that for the second Rocha headed his clearance straight to Osman and then proceeded to bundle Robinson into the back of the net; the third was initially created by an unbelievably sloppy pass from Zokora. So how Gardner can be allotted sole blame beats me entirely.

If your point is that his semi-permanent crock status is the problem, that's one thing; but he's no more of a liability than Dawson or Kaboul (or Chimbonda, for that matter). Less, if anything.

Gardner offset his mistake against Neverton by scoring the equaliser, such is the Tottenham way :wink:

 

[Stoof]

GARDNER LOAN DEAL

We have reached agreement with Everton for the loan of Anthony Gardner for the remainder of the season.

Anthony joined us in January 2000 from Port Vale and has gone on to make 144 appearances in our colours, scoring on three occasions.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/gardnerloandeal.html

 

[Marty]

Strange, strange move. Can't understand why Everton need him.

good luck to him anyway.

 

[Blotto]

This I cannot believe, I was certain that his deal with the Illuminati would keep him at the Lane until he retired...

 

[sparx100]

I like big tone, not necessarily for his footballing ability (which is sometime sublime other/most times lacklustre), but I do like the fact that he has been with the club for a long time. You don't get many players who remain at a club for a long time these days, and I would be quite happy for him to be 4th choice CB (behind King, Woodgate and Kaboul).

However, I guess he wants to play (although I am not sure he will do that at Everton.....), but good luck to him,