Am I the only one that thinks £18m for Keane is actually good business??

[CampPete]

I like Keane and would rather he stayed, but it is good money for him. He does tend to slow down our play at times but creates and scores at the same time. We are changing our system and where would Keane fit into it?
I'd had to see him leave but £18-20 million makes up for it. Plus the wife is a Liverpool fan (glory seeker) and to see Keane and Torres will be interesting. Will they be as good as Keane and Berba - I doubt it

 

[monkeytastic]

a couple of factors which bump up the price a bit.

• liverpool are champions league regulars
• it was a hostile bid

both of these would add a few million to the bid. added to that, they seemed to rate barry at 12-15. 18-20 seems fair enough for keane, chelsea or man u I'd add a little more.

His goal scoring record deserves that at least and that's something spurs, especially Jol, developed in him (remember when you'd bank on him missing a 1 on 1 with the keeper) so overall I reckon it's a good price and a fair one because we have a decent chance of getting a good replacement with that kind of money.

 

[rags2riches]

i'm in agreement with another poster who is a little concerned at who is replacing keane. Who are we going to get? If villa or arshavin are a step up from keane playing similar roles, why aren't liverpool signing them instead?

 

[hodspurs]

i'm in agreement with another poster who is a little concerned at who is replacing keane. Who are we going to get? If villa or arshavin are a step up from keane playing similar roles, why aren't liverpool signing them instead?

hit the nail on the head..whats what i keep asking!!!:shrug:

 

[Kendall]

It's good business in the monetary sense but so was Carrick to United.

I don't think keane is as irreplaceable as Carrick, but we DO need to replace him, preferably with Arshavin, but I'd take Villa at a stretch :up:

 

[Kendall]

hit the nail on the head..whats what i keep asking!!!:shrug:

Both are more expensive in both transfer fee and wages, plus neither are prem proven & it's clearl Liverpool are far from rich this window.

If we are to land one of those 2 we'll have to pay big and also take that risk that they can make it in the prem, but we have just sold the best part of £42m worth of players to Sunderland, Liverpool and Blackburn (provided Kaboul & Malbranque follow Chimbo and Tainio to Sunlun) so we can afford it.

 

[ChRiStOpHe]

i'm in agreement with another poster who is a little concerned at who is replacing keane. Who are we going to get? If villa or arshavin are a step up from keane playing similar roles, why aren't liverpool signing them instead?

On the same note, why didn't Real Madrid buy Thierry Henry from Juventus for £10.5m, rather than sign the inferior and vastly more expensive Nicolas Anelka?

Sometimes clubs can misjudge situations, and I think that we'd be better balanced, as well as overall improved, if we replaced Keane with either of the 2 players you listed.

 

[Kendall]

Indeed, like why did we sign the irratic, 'destined to be a flop like barthez' gomes for £10m when we could've gotten the Prem proven Carson for less than £4m. Beggars belief really.

 

[Cicinho]

most definatley not i would snap 15million if it was offered even

 

[shakus]

I would like to think Levy has learnt from the Carrick situation and would not allow Keane to go if we didn't have either a suitable replacement, or a change in tactics / formation for Ramos to implement, like Jol's first full season in charge.

For example it's been suggested that we may play with a lone striker of Bent with Santos just behind and Bentley / Capel / whoever on the left.

As for selling to the rivals one must remember that Liverpool is somewhat of a graveyard for many players who went there with big expectations but never quite fulfilled. Think Cisse, Morientes,Crouch. The jury is still out for Voronin, Babbel & Benayoun, not to mention Kuyt & Pennant. Bellamy had a fantastic season for Blackburn, moved to Pool, spent one season and that was it, so I don't expect Keane to either play every game or find his feet and play like he has for us immediately.

As mentioned by a few already, players come and go, it's part and parcel of the game, sometimes we don't have the luxury of having them with us for as long as we want, but I would like to think that Levy & Ramos are comfortable selling a 28 yr old at their peak for £18m, as there is more than one way of producing as successful team.

This is a dawn of a new era, be brave,be bold, be Tottenham.

 

[donny1013]

I hate doing it but if you look at Woolwich down the road they have had a lot of top players that have come and gone in recent years, Henry, Pires Vieira etc that had been at the club a while and seemed integral to the team. Its all part of football, but the club still remains. Keano has scored 100 odd goals for us and been a massive fan favorite and deservedly so. This move i think is at the right time and the right price, the only annoyance is that it is to a club we should be challenging with for CL footie in the upcoming season. IF he does go then i wish him all the best with confidence that we will sign a top drawer replacement.

 

[eViL]

It's good money. Don't think he's worth anywhere near that either.

But that's not our problem..

 

[SpursMad]

To be honest, as long as the club isn't going in the red or relegated, I could give two shits whether we do "good business" or not. I want to watch great football side that achieves things.

I don't know why supporters get so hung up on the business side of transferring players. Who cares if we get 20 Million or 20 pounds. It really has no relation to the fan or the team as long as we win. I could understand if the supporters received a percentage of the fee but we don't so it shouldn't matter.

If Ramos and co. (AKA The Powers That Be) feel it is worth getting rid of Keane in hopes of getting new players in that will improve the overall squad then great. But the fee shouldn't matter to the supporters.

 

[alamo]

Numerically I suppose selling Keane or Berba could be considered a "good deal" seeing as we would have paid for them, got god service from both and then continued to also make a profit. What I don't get though is how people assume they could be so easily replaced or improved upon. If that were the case then don't you think the Mancs or Pool would be targeting the potential replacements instead?

 

[Seanson]

I'm not sure we will get that but if we get anything like that it's good business.
A couple of things on the similarity with Carrick, We did miss him because pretty much everything went through him but as DC says we had to develop our game the next season which was better for us in the long term.
One very important point is that Robbie is a favourite of ours but he isn't that integral to us, we have moved on and really are in a much better position to replace peoples with a higher grade of player.
Take the money at that price.

I guess that's why Liverpool, who admittedly are only the best cup side since Spurs of old -- but they are still a top 3 side, are looking to blow a hole in their piggy bank for Keane. Spurs are financially in a stronger position than Liverpool but we still appear to put money ahead of football. Hopefully one day we will stop selling our best players to bigger clubs. Just as well we hate l'arse, or we would be selling to them as well.

 

[Seanson]

To be honest, as long as the club isn't going in the red or relegated, I could give two shits whether we do "good business" or not. I want to watch great football side that achieves things.

I don't know why supporters get so hung up on the business side of transferring players. Who cares if we get 20 Million or 20 pounds. It really has no relation to the fan or the team as long as we win. I could understand if the supporters received a percentage of the fee but we don't so it shouldn't matter.

If Ramos and co. (AKA The Powers That Be) feel it is worth getting rid of Keane in hopes of getting new players in that will improve the overall squad then great. But the fee shouldn't matter to the supporters.

The fans focus should indeed be the footbal. I just can't see how Ramos and Levy think that they can just go out to Lidl or Aldi and buy a pair of strikers capable of scoring 50 goals per season as if they were off the shelf. We got Keane because Leeds were a basket case. We got Berbatov by the grace of God. Tell them we are making a push for the Premier League and glory and we don't give a fiddlers about £45m, and get them to focus on scoring 200 goals and becoming Spurs Legends over the next 4 years. If we value £11m per year more than trophies then it's no wonder our best players prefer to leave.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

if we did sell berbs and keane and replaced them with villa and arshavin, i for one would actually be quite happy

 

[taidgh]

we wouldn't get in villa AND arshavin both. surely they're too similar. conventional thinking seems to say that one out of those two plus a classic number 9 would be much more desireable.

 

[taidgh]

we wouldn't get in villa AND arshavin both. surely they're too similar. conventional thinking seems to say that one out of those two plus a classic number 9 would be much more desireable.

 

[TheBigMatch]

if we did sell berbs and keane and replaced them with villa and arshavin, i for one would actually be quite happy

Not if they flopped in the Premier League and only scored 30 goals between them.

Selling Keane and Berbatov is a gamble for the sake of money.

Ramos just thinks that he is such a brilliant coach that he can build from scatch.