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bubble07

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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/ramos-who-ate-all-the-paellas-781955.html

Tottenham's Spanish manager Juande Ramos has offered a startling insight into Tottenham's revival under him by suggesting that the squad he inherited from Martin Jol last October was seriously overweight and had some very bad eating habits.


As he prepared his team for their game at Slavia Prague in the Uefa Cup tonight, Ramos and his management team revealed that the squad was 100 kilos overweight when they first arrived. Ramos and fitness coach, Marcos Alvarez, joined from Seville and one of the first things they noticed was how poorly their new players compared to the super-fit professionals they had left behind in Spain.


"When we arrived we realised straight away that the team was carrying excess baggage," Alvarez said. "I made a very simple comparison with the Seville team that we had been working with and, taking into account the size of the players, the team was basically 100 kilos over.


"So I immediately talked to Tottenham and we set the wheels in motion to change things. They have now lost between 40 and 50 kilos. Now getting the rest off is the most difficult part but we have also turned a lot of fat into muscle."
Ramos and Alvarez knew they had to change eating habits at White Hart Lane after first setting eyes on the typical first- team buffet.


Alvarez told Spanish radio station La Cadena SER: "The truth is, the first buffet I saw, I took photographs of it because it was very interesting. Lots of sauces, a lot of cakes, chocolate muffins, a box full of sweets. So we tried to put things right."


Ramos added: "At the start they complained because we were taking away the things they liked. But gradually they have understood that we have done it so they can improve, and as the results have improved they have realised that it is necessary. They have all lost weight, some drastically. But they have seen how their performances have improved and the team has moved up the League and they have accepted it."


The claims amount to a damning attack on the regime of Ramos's predecessor, Martin Jol, who was sacked in October. According to a source, the Dutchman believes that his record stands for itself – with Spurs having played 59 games last season and finishing strongly to secure fifth place in the Premier League. "There are different ways to condition players and just look at how they have peaked in the past. Maybe the question that should be asked at Spurs right now is just how many players are getting injured," a source said.


The source also suggested that Ramos and his team should be questioning the role of Spurs' sporting director Damien Comolli who, it is claimed, had greater control of the club's backroom staff and the nutrition provided than Jol. "If you go into a club the first thing you say is that either the players are not good enough or not fit enough. It's a cheap shot," the source said. "Maybe we should just see in what condition the players are come the end of the season and how they finish."


Spurs, who were in the bottom three of the table when Ramos joined, are now 11th and play Chelsea in the Carling Cup final next weekend. Ramos stressed that turning flab into muscle had been as important as overall weight loss. "It's not just a case of losing weight; if you can convert the fat into muscle then that can be a good thing too," he said.


One player who has benefited from the new regime is midfielder Tom Huddlestone. "Most of the food we are told to eat now is dry and we are told not to have too much sugar," he said recently. "I miss ketchup with my chicken. But the main thing with me has been trying to stick to water instead of fruit juices which have a lot of sugar in them. I've lost a bit of weight but I'm not really concerned with that. I'm more focused on my fitness and being able to last 90 minutes, running more than I was before."
 

SpurSince57

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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/ramos-who-ate-all-the-paellas-781955.html

Tottenham's Spanish manager Juande Ramos has offered a startling insight into Tottenham's revival under him by suggesting that the squad he inherited from Martin Jol last October was seriously overweight and had some very bad eating habits.


As he prepared his team for their game at Slavia Prague in the Uefa Cup tonight, Ramos and his management team revealed that the squad was 100 kilos overweight when they first arrived. Ramos and fitness coach, Marcos Alvarez, joined from Seville and one of the first things they noticed was how poorly their new players compared to the super-fit professionals they had left behind in Spain.


"When we arrived we realised straight away that the team was carrying excess baggage," Alvarez said. "I made a very simple comparison with the Seville team that we had been working with and, taking into account the size of the players, the team was basically 100 kilos over.


"So I immediately talked to Tottenham and we set the wheels in motion to change things. They have now lost between 40 and 50 kilos. Now getting the rest off is the most difficult part but we have also turned a lot of fat into muscle."
Ramos and Alvarez knew they had to change eating habits at White Hart Lane after first setting eyes on the typical first- team buffet.


Alvarez told Spanish radio station La Cadena SER: "The truth is, the first buffet I saw, I took photographs of it because it was very interesting. Lots of sauces, a lot of cakes, chocolate muffins, a box full of sweets. So we tried to put things right."


Ramos added: "At the start they complained because we were taking away the things they liked. But gradually they have understood that we have done it so they can improve, and as the results have improved they have realised that it is necessary. They have all lost weight, some drastically. But they have seen how their performances have improved and the team has moved up the League and they have accepted it."


The claims amount to a damning attack on the regime of Ramos's predecessor, Martin Jol, who was sacked in October. According to a source, the Dutchman believes that his record stands for itself – with Spurs having played 59 games last season and finishing strongly to secure fifth place in the Premier League. "There are different ways to condition players and just look at how they have peaked in the past. Maybe the question that should be asked at Spurs right now is just how many players are getting injured," a source said.


The source also suggested that Ramos and his team should be questioning the role of Spurs' sporting director Damien Comolli who, it is claimed, had greater control of the club's backroom staff and the nutrition provided than Jol. "If you go into a club the first thing you say is that either the players are not good enough or not fit enough. It's a cheap shot," the source said. "Maybe we should just see in what condition the players are come the end of the season and how they finish."


Spurs, who were in the bottom three of the table when Ramos joined, are now 11th and play Chelsea in the Carling Cup final next weekend. Ramos stressed that turning flab into muscle had been as important as overall weight loss. "It's not just a case of losing weight; if you can convert the fat into muscle then that can be a good thing too," he said.


One player who has benefited from the new regime is midfielder Tom Huddlestone. "Most of the food we are told to eat now is dry and we are told not to have too much sugar," he said recently. "I miss ketchup with my chicken. But the main thing with me has been trying to stick to water instead of fruit juices which have a lot of sugar in them. I've lost a bit of weight but I'm not really concerned with that. I'm more focused on my fitness and being able to last 90 minutes, running more than I was before."

Interesting fact about Spaniards. They're heavy smokers, they like their wine, but they don't eat shit.

And 100 kilos overweight for the whole squad doesn't equate to that much—we certainly weren't a squad of Luciano Pavarottis. Jenas has been told to build up.
 

SpurSince57

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Know lots of Spaniards, do you?

Or are you arguing from your usual position of total ignorance?

Let me guess…
 

Bill_Oddie

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Nice quotes from BMJ (or I suppose possibly Chrissy H) in there. Not sure he can claim that we have more injuries now than under him, though.
 

robbiesavagehasbreasts

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Image-google Spaniards and you'll find this incredibly thin guy, smoking a cigar and carrying a bucket full of booze. SS57 was right.
 

SpurSince57

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Nice generalization of a nation there SS57. Showing your age I see.:wink:

As a general rule, Spaniards don't eat shit. On the other hand, you, as has regularly been observed, post a good deal of it. At least a third of Spaniards smoke. Per capita, Spain knocks back more wine than most countries.

I may be showing my age. I don't think anyone's in doubt that you're showing your seriously limited intellectual capacity.

So, no change there, then.
 

General Levy

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As a general rule, Spaniards don't eat shit. On the other hand, you, as has regularly been observed, post a good deal of it. At least a third of Spaniards smoke. Per capita, Spain knocks back more wine than most countries.

I may be showing my age. I don't think anyone's in doubt that you're showing your seriously limited intellectual capacity.

So, no change there, then.


Your ignorant generalization of a nation simply shows your true colours.

Also, going by your poor grammar; it is you who has: "serious limited intellectual capacity."

http://www.surgerydoor.co.uk/medical_conditions/Indices/S/senile_dementia.htm
 

diegooners

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general levy you make few friends on this board. You need to chill out and get some spurs knowledge.
 

nidge

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Just to say my father runs a farm in the south of Spain a few miles north of Malaga and east of Selliva and I can confirm that a lot of the older generation out there are heavy smokers and drink a lot of wine but, have one of the healthy diets I have ever seen or at least they do in the village near my dads farm. :shrug:
 

louisg

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"So I immediately talked to Tottenham and we set the wheels in motion to change things. They have now lost between 40 and 50 kilos. Now getting the rest off is the most difficult part but we have also turned a lot of fat into muscle."

This is incorrect. You cannot turn fat into muscle another common mistake is people thinking muscle weighs more than fat.

You simply get rid of fat and muscle mass grows.

not that anyones intrested :shrug:
 

nidge

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It maybe that this season the team were unfit but, last season you don't go on the sort of run we did at the end of season if the team were unfit. This season everything that could go wrong at the beginning of the season did go wrong. :-(
 

BoringOldFan

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"So I immediately talked to Tottenham and we set the wheels in motion to change things. They have now lost between 40 and 50 kilos. Now getting the rest off is the most difficult part but we have also turned a lot of fat into muscle."

This is incorrect. You cannot turn fat into muscle another common mistake is people thinking muscle weighs more than fat.

You simply get rid of fat and muscle mass grows.

not that anyones intrested :shrug:

I am and you are 100% right. You cannot do this. If Alvarez has achieved this he should win the Nobel Prize never mind the Carling Cup.

Greetings from Prague BTW. The day has started very cold and overcast. Just about to set off into town, no doubt to meet up with a few revelllers in Wenceslas Square. Did you know that it is not a square nut a log street? Not a lot of people know that.
 

t79boy

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"So I immediately talked to Tottenham and we set the wheels in motion to change things. They have now lost between 40 and 50 kilos. Now getting the rest off is the most difficult part but we have also turned a lot of fat into muscle."

This is incorrect. You cannot turn fat into muscle another common mistake is people thinking muscle weighs more than fat.

You simply get rid of fat and muscle mass grows.

not that anyones intrested :shrug:

But you know what they mean....the fat is broken down and the energy released from this fuels the excercise to make the muscles grow etc etc
If im not mistaken it is still true that Lean muscle does weigh more than fat per unit volume :think:
 
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