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yanno

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I did make an additional post.

Fair enough - as I was composing my reply to your original crack whilst you were posting your addendum.

Just to wind ChRiStOpHe up, I thought Chimbo had a better game defensively than Hutton today.... :wink:
 

Kendall

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I thought he was pretty damn solid, maybe because he was focussed on defending for a change...
 

ChRiStOpHe

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Chimbonda was more impressive than Hutton today...

I'd be tempted to go along with that, especially with Chimbonda playing out of position. Pity he can't do it every week, eh? Hutton offered much more going forward. Chimbonda did really well defensively in one of the toughest fixtures there are.

Just to wind ChRiStOpHe up, I thought Chimbo had a better game defensively than Hutton today.... :wink:

Me too :) I don't blindly hate Chimbonda. He just normally doesn't impress me. Today, out of position, I thought he did brilliantly. As I said, if he always did that, I'd love him :wink:
 

robin09

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Hutton was solid, nothing to get carried away about (yet). Chimbo I agree was good, covered alot of ground at the back, and showed he's committed to the cause. At least til the summer.
 

degoose

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I'm pretty sure he hadn't mate. Benfica were knocked out of the CL at the same stage as Rangers this year. We signed Rocha in the same window as Hutton. Neither had played in the UEFA. It's because UEFA are cocks, and don't allow the rule to work both ways.

oh really i remember hearing on a commentary one time saying he had already played in the uefa cup, well it sounds like a bloody stupid rule because hes played in the champs league.
 

ChRiStOpHe

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oh really i remember hearing on a commentary one time saying he had already played in the uefa cup, well it sounds like a bloody stupid rule because hes played in the champs league.

Shit, isn't it? Yet it's OK for you to do it the other way around (UEFA to CL). Take about belittling your own competition.

****s :|
 

diegooners

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he was very solid indeed. But I was under the impression that this was the weakest part of his game, that he was a very attacking wing back. He didn't get forward much today though, is that unusual for him?
 

SpurSince57

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No space for him in your sig lineup?


I'm being unfair, I like some aspects of Chimbonda's game but he frustrates me with his constant switching off & poor positional play, his attacking qualities also pale in comparison with the lightning-quick, Wayne-Bridge-esq Hutton.

Admittedly people's apparent blind praise for Shimbomba has made me dislike him a bit more and that just isn't hs fault, damnit.

I hope to fuck Hutton isn't Bridge-esque, because Bridge, for reasons I can't fully comprehend, is one of the most overrated non-Spurs players on SC. He's also injured more often than not.

Chimbonda does annoy me; he can be alarmingly casual, he has a propensity for Atouba-style showboating, he goes AWOL too often at set-pieces; worryingly, he's been done a few times by opposition LMs, notably Benayoun for Liverpool's equaliser. His tackling hasn't been up to par with what it was last season.

But his passing (if not his crossing) has been fine, and he has had (or had a couple of weeks ago anyway) more touches of the ball than anyone but Clichy. And although stats aren't the be-all-and-end-all, he is just one of five Spurs players in the ACTIM 100; last season he was second only to Berbatov as far as Spurs players were concerned, and second only to Finnan as a RB.

We have a propensity on SC to magnify faults and ignore the positives, except, perhaps, in the case of anyone who can deliver a decent left-footed cross (excluding Mido, who's in a category of his own).
 

ChRiStOpHe

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he was very solid indeed. But I was under the impression that this was the weakest part of his game, that he was a very attacking wing back. He didn't get forward much today though, is that unusual for him?

He's not a mug defensively, which many have made him out to be. He's also better going forward than he showed today, and I was still impressed with his offensive work.

As posted earlier, this was vs Stuttgart earlier in the season:

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Marty

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I hope to fuck Hutton isn't Bridge-esque, because Bridge, for reasons I can't fully comprehend, is one of the most overrated non-Spurs players on SC. He's also injured more often than not.

Chimbonda does annoy me; he can be alarmingly casual, he has a propensity for Atouba-style showboating, he goes AWOL too often at set-pieces; worryingly, he's been done a few times by opposition LMs, notably Benayoun for Liverpool's equaliser. His tackling hasn't been up to par with what it was last season.

But his passing (if not his crossing) has been fine, and he has had (or had a couple of weeks ago anyway) more touches of the ball than anyone but Clichy. And although stats aren't the be-all-and-end-all, he is just one of five Spurs players in the ACTIM 100; last season he was second only to Berbatov as far as Spurs players were concerned, and second only to Finnan as a RB.

We have a propensity on SC to magnify faults and ignore the positives, except, perhaps, in the case of anyone who can deliver a decent left-footed cross (excluding Mido, who's in a category of his own).
After seeing the Croatia game I lost all admiration I had for Bridge. The whole team were bad of course, but Bridge was truly shocking. I have honest to God never seen such a bad performance from an England player as his in that game, a game which we needed a point from to qualify. It was like 11 v 10, almost 12 v 10, he did absolutely nothing right. I don't think he's ever really set the world alight playing for Chelsea either, but he did look decent at Southampton.

Rant over.
 

SpurSince57

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After seeing the Croatia game I lost all admiration I had for Bridge. The whole team were bad of course, but Bridge was truly shocking. I have honest to God never seen such a bad performance from an England player as his in that game, a game which we needed a point from to qualify. It was like 11 v 10, almost 12 v 10, he did absolutely nothing right. I don't think he's ever really set the world alight playing for Chelsea either, but he did look decent at Southampton.

Rant over.

Never had any. As a defender, he's not as good as Lee, and, as far as English LBs are concerned, Cashley excluded, Shorey and Baines are a good deal better.
 

stevenqoz

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Hutton did his job today which just happened to against the Champions! He looked very solid with an assured touch. Defensively, he did not just fly in with tackles but did make some beauties. He stayed on his feet which is the most importanrt thing for a full back. A couple of times he used his body well against Rooney which is no easy task. There was one TV shot of Rooney almost nodding in acknowledgement to Hutton.
He got forward a fair bit and while none of his crosses led to goals he looks willing to join the attack. An excellent debut with a side of virtual strangers.
 

Rocksuperstar

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I thought Hutton did really well, impressed me how well he gets himself between the man and the ball and had Rooney in his pocket when they met. He tracked his man well and made himself available wide when the play was getting clogged up - an all round good debut, if he can keep that up i'll not be dissapointed.
 

Fordy

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i was very, very impressed. looks quick and composed.
 

yanno

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Me too :) I don't blindly hate Chimbonda. He just normally doesn't impress me. Today, out of position, I thought he did brilliantly. As I said, if he always did that, I'd love him :wink:

Good to see you're a fair man! :up:

Tbh - after what seemed a less than fully committed performance against Everton, I was dreading seeing Chimbo play at LB against Ronaldo. But he put in 100% effort, and played for the team - even earning some applause from Woodgate for his excellent late intervention against Tevez.

If Chimbo carries on showing that attitude and application, then it'll be good for Spurs - especially in the UEFA Cup - and Juande will have a big decision to make in the summer.
 

sloth

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I thought Hutton played really well yesterday, I didn't notice the nervousness others have commented on but maybe that was because I wasn't looking.

I think Chimbonda comes in for unfair criticism (strangely their seems to be some link between him and Lee, with the level you rate one in inverse direct proportion to the level you rate the other.), but he can be lazy when it comes to tracking back. Whether this is to do with the poor fitness levels stemming from the previous regime, or a character flaw in the player himself, I don't know, anyway, Hutton seems much more willing/capable of getting forward and getting back and this is a crucial attribute in a full-back.
 

DJS

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It's a weird situation at the moment having both Hutton and Chimbonda as we were expected to ship Chimbo out.

Will be interesting to see how it pans out for the rest of the season and whether Chimbonda is straight on his way come the summer!

Regarding Bridge, I always though he was top quality for Southampton (and England while playing every game for Saints) and was good at first for Chelsea, especially in tandom with Duff.

Problem seems to be that he now seems to have settled for being second choice left-back behind that idiot who cheats on his fit wife!

From the outside Bridge appears to have a bad attitude too as rather than signing his new deal would've thought he'd have been best looking for a move to somewhere he actually has to work and play every week (Spurs would've been nice but we've got Bale and Gilberto, not to mention Lee and Assou-Ekotto so a bit well supplied there now!).

Probably lack of match sharpness was why he was so crud for England recently.
 
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