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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

The Scarecrow

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Jan 17, 2013
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Mourinho managed a team that were reigning champions in the Premier league that season and he really excelled there didn't he. Most stupid comment ever.
Reckon you one upped him in terms of stupidity here. You certainly realise that Mourinho was managing the reigning champions that season because he won them the title the previous season?
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Jan 9, 2014
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Has Mourinho won us a trophy yet? If not I strongly recommend signing some German manager that I know nothing about but seems to be doing well in a very different league. Fingers crossed this German manager knows English.
 

Stavrogin

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Apr 17, 2004
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I keep hearing about Kane following Poch to United, but wasn't it only few months ago that people (including at least one ITK) were saying that Kane lead the calls for Poch to go?

So what's changed?

Are people now saying this was an elaborate plot by Kane to go to another club led by Poch :cautious:

I think our squad is in an awful state, a group of flawed players that are all capable of (differing levels of) individual brilliance but are not great at passing/moving football all with differing levels (politely) of mobility and football intelligence, so team moves are an issue and have been for some time, take out the individuals most capable of individual brilliance was always going to hamper us. Jose obviously was aware that as a team we have struggled for some time to break teams down with possession football and has tried to invite teams onto us to use certain players' quick instinctive play on the counter. This is also hampered by absentees and puts more strain on the defense as we have to do it (defend) more.

I don't know what the answers are but can't see any quick fix unfortunately :(


I don't think the fix is that hard.

Our big problem is that part-way through the Pochettino era we stopped operating as a team (that was greater than the sum of its parts) and started operating as an assemblage of supremely talented individuals.

Players blossomed and forced their way into the team and it worked well but they were never really fully integrated. For example, Son is arguably our second most important player but we've never had a settled formation that had Kane and he at their best. Ditto Moura.

Winks forced his way into the team and is great, but when did he form a midfield partnership as effective as Dembele/Dier or Wanyama? For various reasons we haven't seen a logical, obvious first 11 emerge for years. Has Moura come close to being in a formation as synergistic as Kane/Alli/Eriksen?

All we need to do is hammer a team together from this big squad and then work from there. Obviously, with the key injuries we may not pull it off this season but that should be our goal.
 
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stevenqoz

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Apr 10, 2006
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What is "intent to go out and win games" though? There's more than one way to do it and, last night at least, we would have comfortably won the game if individual players had managed to stick at least one of the three absolute sitters we wasted away - all better chances than anything Norwich created for all their alleged "dominance". The game plan created enough chances for us to win, easily.
Liverpool Citeh Chelsea Leipzig three points from twelve and we were lucky to collect those! Of course there is more than one way to do it but clearly too often sitting back is not getting us the points. Norwich at home in the cup....hardly a dominant performance. If you are happy with our approach in all these games enjoy!(y)
 

noggen

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Aug 21, 2009
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Has Mourinho won us a trophy yet? If not I strongly recommend signing some German manager that I know nothing about but seems to be doing well in a very different league. Fingers crossed this German manager knows English.
How many days will you give him?
 

Betha

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Jan 6, 2015
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No he doesn’t look at his Porto and inter Milan team.
Well, the year Inter won the Champions League they brought in:
Milito
Lucio
Thiago Motta
Etoo (partially for Ibrahimovic)
Sneijder

With Sneijder the youngest, at 25 y.o.
4 of these started the final, with Milito scoring both goals. Motta was suspended for the final but played 8 games in the CL that year.

the year before they brought in:
Queresma
Muntari
Mancini
Crespo (free)
 

theShiznit

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Jul 26, 2004
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I don't think the fix is that hard.

Our big problem is that part-way through the Pochettino era we stopped operating as a team (that was greater than the sum of its parts) and started operating as an assemblage of supremely talented individuals.

Players blossomed and forced their way into the team and it worked well but they were never really fully integrated. For example, Son is arguably our second most important player but we've never had a settle formation that had Kane and he at their best. Ditto Moura.

Winks forced his way into the team and is great, but when did he form a midfield partnership as effective as Dembele/Dier or Wanyama? For various reasons we haven't seen a logical, obvious first 11 emerge for years. Has Moura come close to being in a formation as synergistic as Kane/Alli/Eriksen?

All we need to do is hammer a team together from this big squad and then work from there. Obviously, with the key injuries we may not pull it off this season but that should be our goal.
I just see too many players that actively stop good football (what i call football) for various reasons.
Moura, Alli, Son, Sissoko (unsure on Bergwijn and Gedson)

Pass and move is replaced with pass and watch (job done) we have been too heavily reliant on an individual beating a man to create even with that prime Poch Spurs; Wanyama and Dembele in beast mode, sure that team won the ball higher up the pitch but it still struggled to have any obvious passing team patterns that weren't give it to someone special to create/shoot/score, in good teams where you have players that have an understanding of the space and teammates around them all you need are three or four in key areas all moving, all wanting the ball or appreciating the space to move into to create space for others.

I don't see that with us, not for years now.
 

theShiznit

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Jul 26, 2004
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It's the most notable thing so far in many games & I don't know why because we are not very good at sitting back.
People have said for years that this Spurs team is one of the best counter attacking teams in football.

Inviting teams on is a quick and easy way to ensure the counter attack is a viable option.
 
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For me, the biggest difference between Wolves and us is they they have an extremely settled squad full of players who know each other's games having been with their manager for a few years. We have an extremely unsettled squad of players who aren't familiar with each other or the manager.

FFS we had 66% of the possession against them, they were doing all the running around after us.

They are just better as a team than we are at the moment.

Can we play stop this "but-we-were-good-against-Wolves-crap". I see multiple people saying it again and again.

Wolves played thursday and lost 3-2 to Getafe and was knackered. We had a whole week to prepare. And we still LOST.

Did you watch the first game we played against them? We got absolutely destroyed in that game by a free flowing Wolves-side. And we still won.

By playing anti-football classic Mourinho style.

It was the first time I remembered that we should never have gotten Jose as our manager. It was disgusting to watch us play that way, and win.

Yeah I wasn't happy afterwards, not even after a win. The first time in my life I have felt that way.
 
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Can we play stop this "but-we-were-good-against-Wolves-crap". I see multiple people saying it again and again.

Wolves played thursday and lost 3-2 to Getafe and was knackered. We had a whole week to prepare. And we still LOST.

Did you watch the first game we played against them? We got absolutely destroyed in that game by a free flowing Wolves-side. And we still won.

By playing anti-football classic Mourinho style.

It was the first time I remembered that we should never have gotten Jose as our manager. It was disgusting to watch us play that way, and win.

Yeah I wasn't happy afterwards, not even after a win. The first time in my life I have felt that way.
So we were rubbish over both games? Is that what you are saying? Simple yes or no will surfice.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
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Has Mourinho won us a trophy yet? If not I strongly recommend signing some German manager that I know nothing about but seems to be doing well in a very different league. Fingers crossed this German manager knows English.
What's bugging f**k out of me is seeing some people now even being revisionist about his past achievements. Fine if you don't like the guy: I'd say that most if not all have disliked him for various past misdemeanors but money or not, he's won a lot of trophies so it's pretty pathetic. Before doing so, please think carefully and honestly in yourself if you would denigrate those league titles and cups if he had won them with Spurs.
 

dudu

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Jan 28, 2011
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Can we play stop this "but-we-were-good-against-Wolves-crap". I see multiple people saying it again and again.

Wolves played thursday and lost 3-2 to Getafe and was knackered. We had a whole week to prepare. And we still LOST.

Did you watch the first game we played against them? We got absolutely destroyed in that game by a free flowing Wolves-side. And we still won.

By playing anti-football classic Mourinho style.

It was the first time I remembered that we should never have gotten Jose as our manager. It was disgusting to watch us play that way, and win.

Yeah I wasn't happy afterwards, not even after a win. The first time in my life I have felt that way.

Wait, I never said it!
 

Robbiepope

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Aug 3, 2006
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4 months into the job Robbie. Same players that didn't win away in the league for nearly a year. With how everything was when Mourinho took over, you're expecting a unicorn so soon.

If you can see something is wrong , why wait until it gets worse?

4 months and the style of play is clear and it’s shit.
 
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