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rez9000

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I work in a middle office capacity in lending, and would happily prove this to you by providing you with intimate details of at least two Premier league clubs debts as part of my work in the field but being only one of two people who might know such things I think I might be easily identified if anyone took umbrage to any disclosure.
Of coooooourse you are. What a coincidence. Loving the convenience. How tragic that it just so happens that you can't mention it. Funny how you've never mentioned this before. It's only just come up now. Just a quick question, the other guy, how many stars does he have on his badge?

I don't respect you. There, I said it. I find your attitude repulsive and ignorant.
Oh no!

People like you need a kick in the face.
You know what they say: "Violence is the way stupid people try to level the playing field".

Just a quick thing: you know when you did your day's training in becoming a finance commerce operations assistant (translation: burger flipper) did they teach you the meaning of the word, 'hypocrisy'?

When I spoke about respect, I don't give the wateriest shit if you respect me or not. Unlike you, I validate my life according to meaningful things, not what brainless people think of me.

What I was trying to make you see was the abject hypocrisy of decrying a lack of respect when you have been anything but respectful. It doesn't surprise me that you didn't notice that I referenced someone else when I accused you of your hypocrisy.

I never said that. I said he's doing a bad job. And results are results.
How did you do on your last eight-week appraisal? Cause that's how often an employee gets judged, right? It must be seeing that you've passed judgement on AVB after only eight weeks.

Finance is not a problem for Spurs, they are doing a lot right.
How big of you to affirm that. I bet Levy is resting a hundred times easier now that it has your seal of approval.

I've still yet to see your master plan by the way. Forget the finance. Why don't you tell us how AVB should be doing the job. Come on, Burger Boy, you're so fucking clever: prove it. Or are you too busy sitting on your arse finding fault? It's so much easier, isn't it, criticising someone who's job you don't have the first clue how to do yourself.

But my original post didn't have anything to do with this. It seems to have got dragged away into the mire by your pathetic ranting.
I know. It's terrible when discussions happen, isn't it? What's needed is for everyone to sit like zombie's while you drivel at them. That's the best way of doing things. Otherwise, all that happens is that you get shown up for the know-nothing you are, and how the hell are you going to spew out moronic crap when that happens, huh?.

My whole point was to find out how long people would wait until they started to get worried. I wasn't screaming and bellowing, merely stating my opinion.
And all we're doing is pointing out how idiotic your opinion is. That's our opinion. So what are you complaining about?

You've completely succeeded in wasting your own time by not responding respectfully and you are getting the response you deserve.
Er... no, mate. I think you're the one who's being ripped to shreds here, not me. As for my time. I enjoy writing barbed and sarcastic replies to idiots. It gives life zing!

If you can't keep on topic then get lost and shit in your own threads.
I'm dweadfully sowwy mister for not nodding my head and saying that Mister AVB should be stwung up becasue he is making da Spursy playas not play well.

Just because I don't think AVB has had the greatest start to his Spurs career doesn't make me dumb.
No, it doesn't. Saying he should be sacked after only two games is what makes you dumb.

Dumb is people rating posts as dumb instead of responding to the thread in a reasonable manner. Do you honestly think I am fazed by getting a dumb rating?
Oh do kindly fuck off! You've done nothing but rip into anyone who's told you that you're an idiot. If only one or two had said it, then you'd have a point, but you'd think the sheer weight of people saying you'er dumb would have given you a tiny hint. Or have we been too subtle for you to grasp?

Either you're so unutterably stupid that you think it's a good idea to get rid of a manager whose been in the job for only eight weeks, or you're so unutterably stupid to believe that you're thread would be met with anything other than the most withering contempt.

And then you demonstrate unutterable stupidity by trying to accuse others of being unreasonable! If there was such thing as an irony-metre in every home, yours would need replacing eight times over because of this thread alone.

I won't reappraise my views until the very things that caused them (not beating Newcastle and West Brom) are followed by a succession of lovely victories.
Hold on. You decry those who would change their mind, but reserve yourself the right to do so. Hypocrite much?

Til then I am wary of the man that has much to prove and still to prove it.

He says top four is a must. In that case he needs to start getting wins.
Yeah, cause I mean there are only 36 games left. Only a possible 108 points available. Fuck him. We need to get rid of him now, because otherwise we won't have enough games left to get fourth place. And what a disaster that would be. If we don't get fourth then maybe some Spurs fans will lose their sense of entitlement and we can't have that, can we?
 

AllSeeingEye

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Dearie me Rez, you really can't help yourself. Did your mother refuse you bitty today?

Does every response have to be so laboured?

You made your point, that you are the biggest self-serving nonce of all time by choosing to refuse sensible conversation, and that you have a unerring contempt for me or anyone who agrees with me, i dont expect everyone to turn around and proclaim me as a messiah - it was always going to be contraversial to suggest that it might go tits up, but hey... Difference of opinion gives life zing...

As for your burgerboy comments what is so hard for you to accept about the fact that I happen to know very well the debt histories of a few Premier League clubs? I believe I have also mentioned it before. Don't you work? Or are you a fat balding paedo who trolls around the internet all day waiting for someone to doubt your precious AVB?
 

Dan Yeats

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Deep breaths needed all round really.

But 'nonce' and 'paedo' are so far over the line it's incredible AllSeeingEye. Put the glass down, publicly apologise for those, and hope the mods are more forgiving of that than I'd be.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Jan 14, 2004
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ASE, you need to stop watching Sky Sports and reading the Daily Mail.

It is clearly going to take us some time but there were some really positive signs. First half I really thought we were excellent, the highline worked well, we completely stifled West Brom and Bale was having a field day down the left. I also liked the way Vertonghen was breaking out of defence, it gave us a dynamic that we didn't have before. We were actually keeping the ball better than I remember at many points of last season and I enjoyed watching it a lot and I think if we continue in that direction then we'll be an excellent attacking side.

We did struggle to find the right ball in to Defoe, Adebayor looked unfit, we couldn't get Lennon into the game and the substitutions all baffled me but there will be solutions to those (like when we bring Adebayor on, don't switch the two wide players. Seemed really strange to have width with a small striker and no width with Ade).

It's a work in progress for sure but from the first two games there is definitely cause for hope. I think we'll translate it into a spanking of Norwich.
 

AllSeeingEye

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To be honest Dan if that's enough to bar me then so be it. The guy just has the most amazing desire to berate and veer completely off topic.

You are right though, everybody needs to calm down including me.

Still angry about the results.... So much hype and nothing showing.
 

sim0n

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Jan 29, 2005
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We will see at the next match - will VDV get subbed out too soon? Will JJ be involved?

I am wanting to trust the manager to shape a successful team the way he sees fit, but I am not convinced we've seen that he's doing a good job of that so far. It's early days, but I don't know how patient DL can be with dropping points like this when shooting for a top 3-4 finish this season.
 

tototoner

Staying Alert
Mar 21, 2004
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Will Van Der Vaart even be here worries me

Our next 3 games all look winnable though, though I thought that yesterday also
 

shelfboy68

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While its only 2 games in this is not good again like last year but on that occasion we came back and finished in the top four.

But it looks very much like that will not be happening this time but the chairman made the decision to change things and on his head will this all be.

Because of the press love in Harry enjoys avb will not be afforded such time and you can see the signs that if this continues they will be swarming around him and levy like bees round a honey pot but it will happen rightly or wrongly.

I reckon we have to give avb 10-15 games if it's still shit like now then that will probably have to be that but we have a week left of the window and as we always know spurs transfer window opens and shuts on the 31st so lets see what Santa brings us from the bargain basement.
 

bk75

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For gods sake can't some people on here give AVB a chance. It's only two games with a unfinished squad. Things will improve at least some of you got to the game I was stuck on the fucking M11 for seven hours!. Having to listen to Norwich v QPR with hardly any mention of the our game.
 

class of 62

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So, two games in and none won, yet we are 1 point up on last seasons opening two.

Trouble is, last seasons openers were against the eventual champs and runner-up.

I can't help but be exasperated by our defending at the moment and how we seem to be so nervous and unable to score despite having so much of the ball.

I'm almost saying AVB out in fact - he doesn't seem to have the ability to create the necessary drive so far and think he might have bitten off more than he can chew with so much to prove.

How long will you wait before you start calling for his head? Or am I knee-jerking?

have a look from the outside in & you can see why spurs fans are called fickle!
 

jimbo

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Dec 22, 2003
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While its only 2 games in this is not good again like last year but on that occasion we came back and finished in the top four.

But it looks very much like that will not be happening this time but the chairman made the decision to change things and on his head will this all be.

Hang on a minute. Are you suggesting it was obvious we would turn it around after losing our first two games of last season? Because I have to disagree with you on that.

If anything I think we look in better shape now, yes it's going to take time and a lot of people don't have patience any more, but if they can't see that we're stronger tactically and playing better football generally then I worry.
 

jimbo

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For gods sake can't some people on here give AVB a chance. It's only two games with a unfinished squad. Things will improve at least some of you got to the game I was stuck on the fucking M11 for seven hours!. Having to listen to Norwich v QPR with hardly any mention of the our game.

As with the Harry appointment I think some fans are against AVB on some kind of principle and will never be happy with him in charge. I doubt Spurs will ever have a manager that all the fans like, and I'm beginning to suspect we never have.
 

shelfboy68

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Hang on a minute. Are you suggesting it was obvious we would turn it around after losing our first two games of last season? Because I have to disagree with you on that.

If anything I think we look in better shape now, yes it's going to take time and a lot of people don't have patience any more, but if they can't see that we're stronger tactically and playing better football generally then I worry.

Look it's all about opinions and I respect yours regarding you think we look ok but I on the other hand think we are a bit of a shambles.

We all want the best for the club but I don't trust levy or avb to get things right but I would love to be proved wrong.
 

jimbo

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Look it's all about opinions and I respect yours regarding you think we look ok but I on the other hand think we are a bit of a shambles.

We all want the best for the club but I don't trust levy or avb to get things right but I would love to be proved wrong.

You don't think we've played well, at least in patches, and been unlucky? I thought we got stuffed last season by United and Citeh and couldn't see much hope for the season.

I guess on the trust thing I'm philosophical about it. We don't have any choice but to trust Levy and AVB, they're in charge and it will be revealed in time whether they can make a success of things or not. In the meantime all we can do as supporters is get behind the team. It's one of those quasi-paradoxes that those who care most, and are most effected, by the success of failure of the team (the fans) can do the least to govern the results (when compared to players, managers, chairman).
 

shelfboy68

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You don't think we've played well, at least in patches, and been unlucky? I thought we got stuffed last season by United and Citeh and couldn't see much hope for the season.

I guess on the trust thing I'm philosophical about it. We don't have any choice but to trust Levy and AVB, they're in charge and it will be revealed in time whether they can make a success of things or not. In the meantime all we can do as supporters is get behind the team. It's one of those quasi-paradoxes that those who care most, and are most effected, by the success of failure of the team (the fans) can do the least to govern the results (when compared to players, managers, chairman).

Let's hope we get things right very soon but I have a nagging doubt that after 10-15 games we are back to the Ramos situation again with avb and back to mid table shit again.

Levy and avb have a big week ahead of them and this could define their futures cos Harry's mates in the press are queuing up to pounce.
 

guiltyparty

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Sep 21, 2005
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What the actual fuck am I reading? We're 2 games into the season FFS.

I've been trying to not post on our performances and just talk about transfers for that very reason, it's SO early days. Lest forget the impact of the transfer window remaining open into the season and how it affected us last year too (altho, admittedly, in tougher games, although let's also not forget how many points we threw away against the supposedly easier games last time out, too)

But then people are posting such reactionary, ill-informed twaddle that I'm finding the only course is to try and explain where they are wrong. Fair dues to Rez for attempting that here. Maybe it would be best if we blanket ignored those who clearly have their mind made up already though?

Seriously, if you're calling for the manager out after two games – regardless of your managerial bias – you are everything wrong with football. Get behind the team
 

ohh_when_the_spurs

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Jun 12, 2008
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OMG . We have lost 1 against a top side away from home where we never get a good result & drew against a decent prem side who beat Liverpool 3-0 last week. All without our best player Modric, top striker Ade (i know he came on as sub) & our talisman King.

Let's give the guy a season at least before we make any judgment.

Some of you are a joke & need to get a grip!
 
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