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Dakes

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Rest the first team and play the academy kids with Dragusin as captain. We need the first team players as physically fit as possible for the league title push.
 

ComfortablyNumb

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Again I understand that instinct but the league is more important and at this stage any more injuries to key players would be catastrophic to our season as a whole.
Respectfully, that’s a crap point of view, and not what fans like me believe, and I don’t believe I’m particularly unusual. The only reason league position is important to me is if we win it. The rest is about money,
But it’s not my money, and I’d rather win the FA cup than be runners up in the league.
 

Japhet

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Vicario
Emerson
Phillips
Davies
Udogie
Skipp
Bentancur
LoCelso
Kulusevski
Johnson
Richarlison

I don't know how ready Phillips is, but he'd be pretty well protected with the experience of Emerson and Davies nearby. I'd prefer Johnson right and Deki left since it's more conducive to crosses into the box for Richy.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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FA cup v Champions League qualification , reckon players have different ideas to fans, I have yet to hear of a player joining a club because they are FA cup winners yet I have heard of players joining because of Champions League, Lo Celso & Richy are two examples.
Sure Ange will play the strongest possible team in this one, however, there may be an agreement that Forster plays all FA Cup games , he did last season. Lets win a cup and finish top four.
 
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talkshowhost86

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Respectfully, that’s a crap point of view, and not what fans like me believe, and I don’t believe I’m particularly unusual. The only reason league position is important to me is if we win it. The rest is about money,
But it’s not my money, and I’d rather win the FA cup than be runners up in the league.
That's a crap point of view?

Well I'm very sorry guardian of acceptable views.
 

talkshowhost86

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He needs the minutes so that he can get up to speed for the rest of the month. If we're truly concerned about risk, then he shouldn't train at all because Solomon and Perisic both got Injured in training and not in a fixture.
Of course injuries can happen in training. Nobody is saying they don't.

But an impact injury is always more likely in a match and Lolo is just coming back from one of those.

I'd happily give him 30 minutes if he's ready after Bournemouth...but no more than that.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Forster - we (like almost everyone else) typically play the back-up keeper in early Cup rounds

Royal - Porro deserves a rest
Phillips/Dorrington - lets see what they have
Davies - need a veteran presence in the back line, and with VdV back soon, we can afford to play him
Reguilon - because, why not, and it gives Udogie a rest. (I assume his loan is done now)

Skipp - he is not our best option at DM, but its probably his best position
Hojbjerg - I expect he will leave by the end of January - use up his minutes here
Lo Celso - continue to get minutes

Johnson - when everyone is back from international duty and injury - his minutes will go down - so he should be fine
Donley - with Richi on the bench
Bryan - last chance to show he deserves more minutes


Bentancur, Deki, Richi, Udogie, Porro on the bench in an emergency - and maybe VdV on the bench for a 15-20 minute run-out.

The upside is - we still have more talent than a rotated Burnley squad. The downside is - this will look very disjointed and we could struggle to string passes together - but if we can save the regular starters for the last 20 minutes - it would still serve as a bit of rest.
 

talkshowhost86

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Just to further explain my view on this, I want Spurs to win trophies, or at least be in the running for winning trophies, regularly.

Winning one FA Cup doesn't get us to that position.

We need European football to bring in money and players. That's what allowed us to build some great squads previously and unfortunately the managers (and the chairman) didn't make the most of it.

For us to properly be big club we need to finish high up the league and I wouldn't want to jeopardise that at this early stage of the FA Cup considering the threadbare squad we currently have.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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We ARE in a title race.

This is a strange year without a singe dominate team. I think the current top-5: Liverpool, City, Villa, Arsenal and Spurs - all have a shot at winning the title this season.

For us to stay in the race - we need to get/stay healthy. Our best XI is as good as anyone in the league - particularly when we are playing Ange's tactics. So, if you want to go for that title, you have to make sure our players are not overextended in the Cup matches. If we can scrape by these early rounds - then we should have a deeper squad to rotate after Round 4.

But we also have to acknowledge that some of the current players are playing too much - due to the other injured players and we have to keep them fresh, if we want to have a deep enough squad to stay in the title race.
 

Maxtremist

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Just to further explain my view on this, I want Spurs to win trophies, or at least be in the running for winning trophies, regularly.

Winning one FA Cup doesn't get us to that position.

We need European football to bring in money and players. That's what allowed us to build some great squads previously and unfortunately the managers (and the chairman) didn't make the most of it.

For us to properly be big club we need to finish high up the league and I wouldn't want to jeopardise that at this early stage of the FA Cup considering the threadbare squad we currently have.

Me personally? I understand where you're coming from. I just don't agree. As has been said a few times, given we've got a bit of a rest till Man Utd/a quiet January I think we don't need to rotate the squad heavily.

I think we all agree the league is very important and don't want to do anything reckless, but playing them on Friday and then again at Man Utd for our first team I don't think is reckless.

As for the trophy V league stuff... why not both? It's all well and good saying or thinking that we can build and prepare for the future but how often does that actually pan out? At what point do you go... we can win it now. Why not give it a go. If, like Chelsea for example, we had games on the 6th and 9th I would be agreeing with a lot more that we have to prioritise and pick... but this is basically just one game a week so play our best for now. Business end of the year we may need to decide one to focus on.
 

Mr Pink

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Just to further explain my view on this, I want Spurs to win trophies, or at least be in the running for winning trophies, regularly.

Winning one FA Cup doesn't get us to that position.

We need European football to bring in money and players. That's what allowed us to build some great squads previously and unfortunately the managers (and the chairman) didn't make the most of it.

For us to properly be big club we need to finish high up the league and I wouldn't want to jeopardise that at this early stage of the FA Cup considering the threadbare squad we currently have.

I get you. But I think we can cope with a good cup run as well.

Anyway, might as well get use to extra games now as there's every chance we'll be in Europe next season.

I'd go pretty strong against Burnley, but give a few a rest and others a chance but leaving a strong core to get the job done.
 

talkshowhost86

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I get you. But I think we can cope with a good cup run as well.

Anyway, might as well get use to extra games now as there's every chance we'll be in Europe next season.
Normally I wouldn't have any qualms with us going full strength. It's only because our squad is so decimated right now.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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As for the trophy V league stuff... why not both?

I think the argument is this - if you build a squad capable of competing high up in the league table - its also a squad capable of winning a Cup - but that takes a bit more luck/good fortune than a season-long competition.

The reality for us - we are very thin right now, and overplaying a few players to compensate - we should be considering the long-term ramifications of that course - and utilizing more of the fringe/Youth players in early Cup competitions.
 

Mr Pink

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Normally I wouldn't have any qualms with us going full strength. It's only because our squad is so decimated right now.

Yeah. Could be careful with a few but still be strong enough to get the job done.

We just dont want 9/10 changes like the Fulham debacle.
 

talkshowhost86

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I get you. But I think we can cope with a good cup run as well.

Anyway, might as well get use to extra games now as there's every chance we'll be in Europe next season.

I'd go pretty strong against Burnley, but give a few a rest and others a chance but leaving a strong core to get the job done.
Also just to be clear I'm not advocating just playing the kids.

Just resting the players for whom we have no sensible replacement such as Porro, Udogie, Lolo and Richy
 
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