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geordiespur
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Have always been against this but it gets to a point where it’s going to need oil (or oil like) money to remove Levy. And I’m all for the latter happening now.
Ghost Hardware
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It is quite amusing. The report says they intend to meet with a number of clubs and the only name that gets dropped is Spurs. Regardless of my thoughts on the matter I bet nothing will develop regarding a deal with us.
robin09
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It’s very hard to accumulate billions in a completely clean, ethically pure manner.
It’s a matter of degrees on the ‘arsehole-o-meter’.
Qatar, and (basically most) Middle Eastern petrol-states are the absolute worst in terms of bigotry, curtailing freedom of expression and human rights abuses in general.
If winning a trophy means that much to fans, that they can be bought to forget about all that, ok.
But any trophy we win after being bought by one of these nations, will have a massive asterisk next to it anyway.
As someone said recently, it would the equivalent of losing your virginity to a prostitute. Meaningless.
It’s a matter of degrees on the ‘arsehole-o-meter’.
Qatar, and (basically most) Middle Eastern petrol-states are the absolute worst in terms of bigotry, curtailing freedom of expression and human rights abuses in general.
If winning a trophy means that much to fans, that they can be bought to forget about all that, ok.
But any trophy we win after being bought by one of these nations, will have a massive asterisk next to it anyway.
As someone said recently, it would the equivalent of losing your virginity to a prostitute. Meaningless.
Tucker
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It’s completely different. And it’s frankly laughable that you’d suggest it was anywhere near the same thing.
When did Amazon last execute 81 people in one day?
When did Disney last castrate someone for being gay?
Have Google stoned any women to death for adultery in the last 12 months?
Can you tell me how many people PayPal have put on trial for blasphemy in the last decade?
When was the last time Visa imprisoned someone for witchcraft?
Sainsbury’s ??? fucking Sainsbury’s?! Are they taking journalists out into the desert beating them to within an inch of their lives and leaving them there now?
fishhhandaricecake
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If a leopard won’t change their spots then we must change the leopard ?
SheffieldAndy
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The Qataris and Saudis all own minority stakes in all of those businesses. But way to totally miss the point ?
Tottenhamboy85
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How much they worth?
mark87
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About 220B I think
HodisGawd
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You are the kid of person the Putins, the human rights abusers and the sports washers call a "useful idiot". You are doing their job for them, making their arguments for them. There is no moral equivalence here. Give it up.
SheffieldAndy
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I’m not using morale equivalence at all, I’m saying that if people are outraged about the thought of them holding a minority stake in Tottenham, and will stop supporting the club, they should be consistent and stop using other businesses/services that are minority owned by them too.
Danny1
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Pfft, found that down the back of my sofa yesterday.
Tottenhamboy85
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Yea let’s do it
Ghost Hardware
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I think there’s also a point of how it would actually affect our spending. I’m not entirely sure we would see any significant increase in money spent on players as they would only have a minor stake in the club.
Tucker
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Fucking hell I did a bit didn’t I ?
I still don’t see it as the same thing though tbh. That’s just investment. They aren’t buying the likes of City Psg and Newcastle as a nest egg. It’s about politics and soft power.
I don’t want them anywhere near the club. I’d rather go back to being owned by Sugar.
SheffieldAndy
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While I’ll agree to disagree about them having a minority stake in someone like Tottenham or Braga as any different, I do agree that outright ownership is a different beast all together as with the clubs you mentioned.
And I can totally understand someone not wanting them to invest
Tottenhamboy85
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Sure but they’ll can prob call in some favours and get big sponsorship deals like city do
danielneeds
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If we put the ethical considerations aside, there’s one thing that we can all agree on - if this is basically the QSI looking to choose an PL club to spunk some money into, you can guarantee it won’t be us, and infact it will be one our most hated rivals who will get a power-up boost.
Tucker
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I just don’t think that a minority investment will stay as a minority investment. I could just about tolerate them sponsoring the shirt or stadium that would still be awful imo. But having an actual stake, and a sizeable one at that? No thanks.
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