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hughy

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Hopefully Liverpool beat Chelsea meaning Chelsea need to win v wolves
Liverpool just couldn't give a shit anymore, which is amazing for a team who could have smashed all sorts of records this season. Really wouldn't shock me if they didn't even turn up for their final two games.
 

panoma

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So who do you hope miss CL next season? Chelsea, Leicester or United?

It will great regardless, but I kinda want Chelsea to miss it. They have the squad to manage both CL and PL and I suspect they also need the funds the most as they have spent big.
 

Yiddo100

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So who do you hope miss CL next season? Chelsea, Leicester or United?

It will great regardless, but I kinda want Chelsea to miss it. They have the squad to manage both CL and PL and I suspect they also need the funds the most as they have spent big.
As long as we get europa couldn’t care less what else happens, United and Chelsea will spend big anyway
 

Dillspur

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So who do you hope miss CL next season? Chelsea, Leicester or United?

It will great regardless, but I kinda want Chelsea to miss it. They have the squad to manage both CL and PL and I suspect they also need the funds the most as they have spent big.

Leciester, I don't think they'll be able to attract the players they want if not in the CL and the chavs seem to have already done a lot of business.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Leicester missing it personally. Chelsea and Utd attract top players and spend shitloads regardless, Leicester need champions league to come anywhere near us for attracting players.
 

ItsBoris

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Even if Leicester do completely implode (unlikely with Maddison and Chilwell coming back), I see next to zero possibility of us overtaking them because that would require us to win six (five + Everton) games on the bounce - which only Spurs teams in the thick of title races in 2011, 2016 and 2017 have ever done in my lifetime.

Watching Arsenal and Leicester last night actually made me feel sad - both teams seem to move the ball around way better than we do and seem so much more organised. Arsenal looked a complete mess not too long ago, now through changing the formation and integrating a few talented, hungry young players into the side instead of twats like Ozil and Guendouzi, they now look like a half decent team. Even Luiz and fucking Mustafi are looking solid now - without the red card they'd have likely picked up their fifth clean sheet in a row. But apparently it's impossible to create chances without "sorting out the defence" and "something something winning mentality" first.

We have to play both of these teams between now and the end of the season, and on current form both are going to come to the Lane and beat us. Mourinho has had Arsenal's number for years (though that was all under Wenger), so I pray he has some trick up his sleeve, but at the moment the best I can hope for seems to be us nicking a goal from a defensive mistake and then putting 10 men behind the ball like we did against Man Utd and hoping not to concede - can anyone really see a scenario where we take the game to these two teams and emphatically beat them like we used to?

Well we almost did it. Surprisingly Bournemouth was the banana peel.

Do you still think Arsenal and Leicester look better and more organized than we do? ;) Don't mean to be a dick and drag "old" posts out of the grave, and I had similar fears myself - it's just interesting to see how events deviate from expectations.
 

SUIYHA

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Well we almost did it. Surprisingly Bournemouth was the banana peel.

Do you still think Arsenal and Leicester look better and more organized than we do? ;) Don't mean to be a dick and drag "old" posts out of the grave, and I had similar fears myself - it's just interesting to see how events deviate from expectations.

Almost isn't the same as doing it - we've won three in a row, not the six that I suggested we'd need as a minimum. To answer your point about Arsenal and Leicester though - whilst we definitely look stronger at the back in the last few games I do think our attack needs a lot more work and that some brilliant finishing and horrific defensive mistakes by the opposition have given us somewhat flattering scorelines - it remains to be seen whether this kind of style can be kept up for a full season without imploding and producing more games like Bournemouth.

Leicester are falling apart which is nice to see, but I think if Arsenal win the FA Cup then it's hard to say that they don't look more organised than us even if we do end up finishing above them - their form lately, the NLD aside, has been very strong.
 

G Ron

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Who came fifth in a four horse race, Leicester, Leicester
Who came fifth in a four horse race, Leicester fucking City.

Who are the “bottle jobs” now
 

Yid121

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That win was massive. Think we've boosted our chances of europa league massively, Chelsea likely to get something from either arsenal or wolves giving us europa, shame we have to rely on them but I'll take it as decent odds in our favour!
 

arunspurs

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I had a look at the PL table..What a really weird season this is...
  1. Liverpool - Champions - have just scored 77 goals - which is just 17 goals shy of them
  2. City have better Goal difference (+10 more) than Liverpool, yet have lost 6 more than Liverpool
  3. Chelsea are 3rd in league, yet they have the worst defensive record in top 10 of 49 conceded.
  4. Spurs are 6th but just 1 Goal difference shy of Chelsea who are at 3rd.
  5. Wolves one of the most "entertaining" football team have scored 49 goals, 11 short of Jose "boring" Mourinho team of 60 scored
 
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Saoirse

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Will there be carabao cup next season??
Not confirmed yet, but probably. It's a huge chunk of the EFL's income and the Premier League agreed to keep participating as part of the breakaway deal back in 1992, so as much as they'd probably like to bin it next year that would be very difficult. The proposal seems to be to run Round 2 (featuring the Premier League clubs who haven't qualified for Europe) during the first international break which is just before the start of the season. Round 3 (where the rest of the clubs enter), Round 4 and the Quarter Final would then have to be staged during the same midweeks as European matches. So Europa sides would play Premier League on the Sunday, Carabao on the Tuesday, Europa on the Thursday, and Premier League again on the Sunday for any rounds they made it too; Champions League sides would play their European tie on the Tuesday and the Carabao on the Thursday.

 

wrd

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I had a look at the PL table..What a really weird season this is...
  1. Liverpool - Champions - have just scored 77 goals - which is just 17 goals shy of us
  2. City have better Goal difference (+10 more) than Liverpool, yet have lost 6 more than City
  3. Chelsea are 3rd in league, yet they have the worst defensive record in top 10 of 49 conceded.
  4. Spurs are 6th but just 1 Goal difference shy of Chelsea who are at 3rd.
  5. Wolves one of the most "entertaining" football team have scored 49 goals, 11 short of Jose "boring" Mourinho team of 60 scored

Wolves are a prime example of what you do with possession being more important than the possession itself. They tend to counter with quite devastating effect which is why when they're against the "bigger clubs" they look so entertaining and get great results.

Conversely thats also why they are not as effective as City and Liverpool because they haven't found a solution to get consistent results vs the rest of the league when they aren't able to counter as much.
 

arunspurs

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Wolves are a prime example of what you do with possession being more important than the possession itself. They tend to counter with quite devastating effect which is why when they're against the "bigger clubs" they look so entertaining and get great results.

Conversely thats also why they are not as effective as City and Liverpool because they haven't found a solution to get consistent results vs the rest of the league when they aren't able to counter as much.

Thing is Wolves are one of the best defensively organised sides. Without the ball they are really good. With the ball with space ahead (against big teams) , they have been great & clincial. They have issues against teams that park and dont give them space.
Next season - I guarantee , Mourinho will do this and keep them quiet.
But main point is, at a higher level, they make look so good but they are a team with little end product. They have only 2 or 3 ways to score - and been quite lucky on injury front as well.
 

Snarfalicious

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Been a really encouraging end to the season. Tons to work on but definitely feeling more excited going into next season. Hope to see us wrap up the season with a win, Arsenal/Wolves stumble and a meteor to rain down at Wembley for the FA Cup Final.
 
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