Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

Snarfalicious · Jul 10, 2020

Don't care if he's shattered after 45 minutes, keep playing him. We need his passing in the side, he's got the unpredictability that we so obviously lack and just keep throwing him out there until he hopefully builds up his match fitness. And who knows, maybe with a consistent run of games, he might actually, you know, improve even more.

Grapo2001 · Jul 10, 2020

wrd said:
He just has an awkward stance where he hunches and that in turn pushes his ass back to counter balance his weight and then people like you call him fat, you haven't got a clue.

????

eppingyid · Jul 10, 2020

he would have been magic with dembele winning the ball back

-Afri-Coy- · Jul 10, 2020

Snarfalicious said:
Don't care if he's shattered after 45 minutes, keep playing him. We need his passing in the side, he's got the unpredictability that we so obviously lack and just keep throwing him out there until he hopefully builds up his match fitness. And who knows, maybe with a consistent run of games, he might actually, you know, improve even more.

Balotelli for all that his is was the perfect example of a lazy player that got his job done exceptionally well when playing for City. He could literally stand still on the pitch for minutes at a time waiting for a pass but as soon as he got the ball at his feet he would switch on and score some really good goals. He put up the goals needed to keep him in the starting 11.

If City could carry him around for 2 seasons and still win titles because he did the job he was asked to do I'm sure we can allow Tanguy to be a bit lazy in defense as long as his passing and creative play is up to standard.

Snarfalicious · Jul 10, 2020

-Afri-Coy- said:
Balotelli for all that his is was the perfect example of a lazy player that got his job done exceptionally well when playing for City. He could literally stand still on the pitch for minutes at a time waiting for a pass but as soon as he got the ball at his feet he would switch on and score some really good goals. He put up the goals needed to keep him in the starting 11.

If City could carry him around for 2 seasons and still win titles because he did the job he was asked to do I'm sure we can allow Tanguy to be a bit lazy in defense as long as his passing and creative play is up to standard.

Yeah, and I actually felt Ndombele was fine yesterday. He's obviously not in, for example, the shape of a Sissoko/Winks, but I felt when he got the ball he looked good. Play him in an advanced role, tell him to just make shit happen, and let the deeper two (Lo Celso and whoever), focus on just breaking up play.

wrd · Jul 10, 2020

Snarfalicious said:
Yeah, and I actually felt Ndombele was fine yesterday. He's obviously not in, for example, the shape of a Sissoko/Winks, but I felt when he got the ball he looked good. Play him in an advanced role, tell him to just make shit happen, and let the deeper two (Lo Celso and whoever), focus on just breaking up play.

He was also running into positions where he could be open for the pass also, he wasn't hiding as he has done previously. It was a step in the right direction.

danielneeds · Jul 10, 2020

Jose just said Ndombele was no better, no worse than the rest of the team yesterday. No chance he starts Sunday then.

Timberwolf · Jul 10, 2020

I feel like to get the best out of him we need intelligent, technical players in front of him and a water carrier behind him.

I was very frustrated that we took Lo Celso off when Ndombele came on. Getting the two of them on the pitch at the same time seems like the best way to give the team some fluidity, incision and control in the centre of the park. Having someone like Lo Celso, who is great at keeping the ball, to pass to would also mean we're less likely to just hand over possession and Tanguy won't have to run his arse off covering (which clearly isn't his forte).

Unfortunately in the grey, doomsville that is Mourinho's Spurs, it seems to very much be either/or. And then we wonder why we have no shots on target to the most out of form team in the league...

felmani26 · Jul 10, 2020

Snarfalicious said:
Yeah, and I actually felt Ndombele was fine yesterday. He's obviously not in, for example, the shape of a Sissoko/Winks, but I felt when he got the ball he looked good. Play him in an advanced role, tell him to just make shit happen, and let the deeper two (Lo Celso and whoever), focus on just breaking up play.

But that indicates the bar is so low for him now to succeed in peoples eyes or at least be perceived as the antidote to the symptoms of a Sissoko/Winks axis of mediocrity.

From what I saw yesterday he is still so laboured round the pitch and whilst admittedly he at least looked to make positive passes, his touch was still relatively poor and clumsy.

Would I start him over the others? Yes I would on the basis that he could make something happen going forwards but it's not enough to merely dismiss his appalling fitness and advocate even him playing for 45 minutes as acceptable as some have.

Japhet · Jul 10, 2020

Timberwolf said:
I feel like to get the best out of him we need intelligent, technical players in front of him and a water carrier behind him.

I was very frustrated that we took Lo Celso off when Ndombele came on. Getting the two of them on the pitch at the same time seems like the best way to give the team some fluidity, incision and control in the centre of the park. Having someone like Lo Celso, who is great at keeping the ball, to pass to would also mean we're less likely to just hand over possession and Tanguy won't have to run his arse off covering (which clearly isn't his forte).

Unfortunately in the grey, doomsville that is Mourinho's Spurs, it seems to very much be either/or. And then we wonder why we have no shots on target to the most out of form team in the league...

I think Lo Celso came off because he picked up a bit of a knock and is probably crucial for the NLD. It must be soul destroying though as a midfielder to have the current incarnations of Lamela, Son , Kane and Moura up front who seem totally incapable of doing anything with the ball other than cough up possession. Add to that the fact that they stand still most of the time and no wonder GLC looks like he's losing the will to live at the moment.

Timberwolf · Jul 10, 2020

Japhet said:
I think Lo Celso came off because he picked up a bit of a knock and is probably crucial for the NLD. It must be soul destroying though as a midfielder to have the current incarnations of Lamela, Son , Kane and Moura up front who seem totally incapable of doing anything with the ball other than cough up possession. Add to that the fact that they stand still most of the time and no wonder GLC looks like he's losing the will to live at the moment.

Ah right, makes a bit more sense then.

-Afri-Coy- · Jul 10, 2020

Snarfalicious said:
Yeah, and I actually felt Ndombele was fine yesterday. He's obviously not in, for example, the shape of a Sissoko/Winks, but I felt when he got the ball he looked good. Play him in an advanced role, tell him to just make shit happen, and let the deeper two (Lo Celso and whoever), focus on just breaking up play.

Preferably get in a proper DM with an engine during the window, there are affordable options if we look hard enough, Lo Celso and Ndombele will be laughing.

Reckon they could be a hell of a duo with the right cover behind them. We would finally see some attacking cohesion and creativity again similar to the Dembele, Eriksen and Wanyama combo.

worcestersauce · Jul 10, 2020

E17yid said:
He was ok last night. Initially thought he was great but there was some questionable decisions and execution on his part for a few things but on the whole it just looked down to rustiness rather than anything else which is completely understandable.

He needs to start every game until the end of the season to see if that can help him. Couldn’t give a shit about results at the moment.

I certainly agree with that last bit.

By the way where's Japhet, is he injured?

mil1lion · Jul 10, 2020

I actually think Winks will do better in a 3 with Lo Celso and Ndombele. He gets criticism because of sideways and backwards passing but he doesn't have a lot ahead of him to play too. Give him options and he is generally a positive passer. It's maybe a bit easier for the number 8 because they're that bit further forward and closer to the attack. There just seems to be a gap between the centre backs and deep lying midfielder and options to play through to the attack.

What Ndombele and Lo Celso give is they can carry the ball and they're positive runners so it's always forward movement. I can imagine those 2 breaking from midfield, Kane dropping into the 10 role and 2 wide attackers (Son and Bergwijn most likely) making runs off him either side. Everything is just so laboured though. Not sure what happened to our fitness levels.

bubble07 · Jul 10, 2020

Props to alli gold constantly asking about Ndombele. Mourinho response wasnt encouraging

Ronwol196061 · Jul 11, 2020

Timberwolf said:
I feel like to get the best out of him we need intelligent, technical players in front of him and a water carrier behind him.

I was very frustrated that we took Lo Celso off when Ndombele came on. Getting the two of them on the pitch at the same time seems like the best way to give the team some fluidity, incision and control in the centre of the park. Having someone like Lo Celso, who is great at keeping the ball, to pass to would also mean we're less likely to just hand over possession and Tanguy won't have to run his arse off covering (which clearly isn't his forte).

Unfortunately in the grey, doomsville that is Mourinho's Spurs, it seems to very much be either/or. And then we wonder why we have no shots on target to the most out of form team in the league...

When NDombele came on we gained the momentum and ND was making those incisive passes but it was when we took off Sissoko that it changed. Ndombele at that point had to think more of the defence and so didnt venture forward quite as much and that brought Bournemouth more into the game

Ronwol196061 · Jul 11, 2020

mil1lion said:
I actually think Winks will do better in a 3 with Lo Celso and Ndombele. He gets criticism because of sideways and backwards passing but he doesn't have a lot ahead of him to play too. Give him options and he is generally a positive passer. It's maybe a bit easier for the number 8 because they're that bit further forward and closer to the attack. There just seems to be a gap between the centre backs and deep lying midfielder and options to play through to the attack.

What Ndombele and Lo Celso give is they can carry the ball and they're positive runners so it's always forward movement. I can imagine those 2 breaking from midfield, Kane dropping into the 10 role and 2 wide attackers (Son and Bergwijn most likely) making runs off him either side. Everything is just so laboured though. Not sure what happened to our fitness levels.

NDombrlr needs more than Winks behind him.He needs the strength of Sissoko or a strong DM behind him .I think Winks/NDombele/Lo Celso is too lightweight.

ajspurs · Jul 11, 2020

Think we're fucked if we don't start to play him more, I really do. That's not even me trying to praise Ndombele so much but he's simply the only player who seems to be capable of playing really progressive passes. I love Lo Celso and think he's great and it's not even through fault of just his own but even he's played a bit safe the last few games. If we have them both on the pitch we may just look a lot more of a positive team. It should really be the goal to get the two of them playing together as much as possible.

Ronwol196061 · Jul 11, 2020

ajspurs said:
Think we're fucked if we don't start to play him more, I really do. That's not even me trying to praise Ndombele so much but he's simply the only player who seems to be capable of playing really progressive passes. I love Lo Celso and think he's great and it's not even through fault of just his own but even he's played a bit safe the last few games. If we have them both on the pitch we may just look a lot more of a positive team. It should really be the goal to get the two of them playing together as much as possible.

NDombele has been marginalized by Mourinho. Hopefully it will change to the better but up to now he has pushed ND to the back. I think for NDombele to work the best we need to develop partnerships and understanding between players to create a flow to goal. NDombele is the key,he has the eye for a pass immediately when he gets the ball he knows what to do with it. But developing chemistry with others is a product of faith in them and also how you protect them and us with defensive players so that they can create. I agree though,Lo Celso is a good ball player and while I havent seen him run the attack like a quarterback,I see Ndombele can do that. Lo Celso is perfect to get the ball going from NDombele and working with him but they need strength behind them. In this last game when ND came on we gained the momentum,when Mourinho took off Sissoko, Bournemouth gained some more momentum as ND had to have an eye on defence and Sissoko is good at getting back.

Albertbarich · Jul 11, 2020

Mourinho clearly doesn't rate him. I thought he made a positive impact on thursday. He was trying things and quickened the tempo when he got the chance but mourinho didn't agree.

I cant see him starting a game whilst the current manager is here.

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