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how so? I haven't guaranteed success or written him off.I guess you are going to get banged too!
how so? I haven't guaranteed success or written him off.I guess you are going to get banged too!
For me he gets until Xmas. After a full pre-season, with a fit squad, full of the players he identifies he needs to win things.
There's a growing number of fans who are only happy when all of the following terms and conditions are met.Yeah but we won, and I enjoyed it. Do you like football?
Ding ding ding!There's a growing number of fans who are only happy when all of the following terms and conditions are met.
The modern internet fan reserves the right to have a good old fucking moan if any of these conditions aren't met.
- We win by 4 or more clear goals.
- We create at least 5x the amount of goalscoring opportunities as our opponents.
- We complete a minimum of 1000 passes.
- We have an xG of at least 5.5
- Our opponent has an xG lower than 0.01
- The average age of our team is below 16
- Our fans behave like the Vienna Boys Choir.
- Our manager will individually namecheck and praise every single member of the playing staff and coaching staff, failure to do so constitutes 'throwing them under a bus'.
That’s the problem. He won’t get a full preseason. The Euro players will join preseason late. Possibly even the Argi boys. Then we have Levy transfer techniques. Even if there was sizeable net spend, which there won’t be (as Levy has laid down his no champions league excuses already), he’ll hardly get players in early. More like the final day.For me he gets until Xmas. After a full pre-season, with a fit squad, full of the players he identifies he needs to win things.
Truly, how many fans sat here thinking "Yeah this squad isn't good enough for a top four finish even top six will be a stretch..."?
That’s the problem. He won’t get a full preseason. The Euro players will join preseason late. Possibly even the Argi boys. Then we have Levy transfer techniques. Even if there was sizeable net spend, which there won’t be (as Levy has laid down his no champions league excuses already), he’ll hardly get players in early. More like the final day.
Personally loved Poch, but he had to go unfortunately. I quite like JM. But boy...it looks like he’ll be stuffed before he even starts next season.
JM haters will slam him. But something tells me it won’t solely be his fault.
Can you see that happening mate because if we are tightening our belts then the search for value for money will be worse, doubt much will happen end of July.Levy must be hoping that we'll be in form by then to avoid the email.
Seriously though, I think that the majority of us will be concerned if we are still struggling by then albeit the summer transfer window will play a part.
I really hope that whoever we bring in, it's early on for once.
I'd claim this . Our success was built not so much on sheer player quality , but mainly on pure effort . Alderweireld 'Without our effort we are just ordinary' .
When our energy subsided we were always going to be in trouble .
Despite what people thought of the Mourinho appointment, then and now, I'd say most knew Pochettino needed to go. From there on it's a question of who was available and who had the credentials as a manager to come in and try to 'save' the season. Now it's quite clear that the squad in itself wasn't in a position to push on, furthermore the injuries to key players is extremely unfortunate. It's so easy with the benefit of hindsight to claim that Mourinho is past it and that everyone and their mother could see that we needed a total rebuild. But the vast majority of us fans maintained the notion that the squad was underperforming and that it had done so for a very long time. Truly, how many fans sat here thinking "Yeah this squad isn't good enough for a top four finish even top six will be a stretch..."?
Even if you were blessed with clairvoyance and could see that the squad just wasn't good enough - Then what difference would someone like Eddie Howe or Nagelsmann (...not that any of them were available anyway midseason) have done? We'd be in the exact same situation but this time around we'd blame Levy for hiring a young and inexperienced manager.
If you take everything in to account Mourinho was probably the best option to try squeeze the last out of this squad midseason. It was a roll of the dice that his experience and authority as a manager could swing around our season, but given the state of club and how we perceived things when Pochettino was sacked it was probably the right call.
That’s the problem. He won’t get a full preseason. The Euro players will join preseason late. Possibly even the Argi boys. Then we have Levy transfer techniques. Even if there was sizeable net spend, which there won’t be (as Levy has laid down his no champions league excuses already), he’ll hardly get players in early. More like the final day.
Personally loved Poch, but he had to go unfortunately. I quite like JM. But boy...it looks like he’ll be stuffed before he even starts next season.
JM haters will slam him. But something tells me it won’t solely be his fault.
There's a growing number of fans who are only happy when all of the following terms and conditions are met.
The modern internet fan reserves the right to have a good old fucking moan if any of these conditions aren't met.
- We win by 4 or more clear goals.
- We create at least 5x the amount of goalscoring opportunities as our opponents.
- We complete a minimum of 1000 passes.
- We have at least 80% possession.
- We have an xG of at least 5.5
- Our opponent has an xG lower than 0.01
- The average age of our team is below 16
- Our fans behave like the Vienna Boys Choir.
- Our manager will individually namecheck and praise every single member of the playing staff and coaching staff, failure to do so constitutes 'throwing them under a bus'.
Yeah, but it's not like we are Sheffield United. We have (...had) seasoned internationals, world cup winners, top scorers and top assisters etc in our squad. That said, it doesn't matter how good players you have if the effort isn't there, that's a good point. But you don't finish top four severals seasons in a row based on effort alone.
I'd say most of us believed that the lack of effort was by large due to Pochettino and the squad growing tired of each other, and that by appointing a new manager we'd might have a rejuvenated squad.
Also unknown is how the likes of Kane and Son are going to feel about things as the big offers arrive for themThat’s the problem. He won’t get a full preseason. The Euro players will join preseason late. Possibly even the Argi boys. Then we have Levy transfer techniques. Even if there was sizeable net spend, which there won’t be (as Levy has laid down his no champions league excuses already), he’ll hardly get players in early. More like the final day.
Personally loved Poch, but he had to go unfortunately. I quite like JM. But boy...it looks like he’ll be stuffed before he even starts next season.
JM haters will slam him. But something tells me it won’t solely be his fault.
Absolutely agree. The waters have been totally muddied by the incredibly unlucky run of serious injuries. You can't really justify a judgement either way on Jose's tenure. Many of us have been concerned by what appears to have been a reversion to type both in playing tactics , player management and general demeanour but because of the incredibly limited options open to him, you have to allow him the pre season and to start next season afresh.I agree with that. This is the bed that's been made, and like it or not, we have to lie in it for a good while. My main concern is that I personally doubt whether we'd be doing much better with Kane and Son. Could quite easily be wrong on that, and I hope I am because I want the club to succeed. It just feels to me like we have the same old Mourinho instead of the new reborn one we were promised but he has a convenient list of viable excuses to draw on for every disappointment. If we (most likely) don't get CL, Levy then has all the excuses he needs to not spend in the summer as well. Mourinho then has his excuses for next season in the bag, and so it goes on. Probably being overly pessimistic but that's how it feels to me.
100% mate we've gone from a team under Poch in 15-16 chasing down Chelsea & Leicester title bids and also last season in the CL final but I think there was a stat saying that in one of our recent games we only had 2 players the same as the CL final.This is exactly the problem. Too many fans think we have great players because we did well for a couple of years. Hardly any of our players would get in any of the top 6 teams. Just shows how quickly football changes. We fucked up 3 years ago when we didn't build.
Oh yea i agree we aren't playing football and its painful to watch and doesn't suit our players. They're very ill suited to park the bus and counter, we have a lot of neat and tidy ball players who'd far rather be dominating posession which they quite easily could if we were set-up correctly.I agree a lot would right now. But if we were playing football, how many really would? Right now only GLC is playing football.